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210. That's what I'm talking about!
Seniors...oh you seniors, you must sacrifice and "eat your peas". You must
learn that we must be fiscally responsible, and that we all have to make
tough choices. Sorry.

And the health-insurance mucky mucks, who saw a 20 percent increase in profits
this past year--you don't have ANY accountability at all. In fact, the next
time DC decides to do healthcare reform again, please remember that you'll be
writing the bill and we'll gladly preserve your profits for you!

Banksters--they'll be no accountability for you. You run a Ponzi scheme that
implodes the economy and destroys the housing market--and we'll simply write
you a check for untold billions of dollars. And don't bother telling us how
you're spending the money--you can do whatever you want!

Oil companies that destroy the Gulf...oh please. Fuggetaboutit!

Companies like GE and people like the Koch Brothers who make billions in profits and
never pay taxes. Oh please, you don't need to worry your pretty little heads. We
don't need any sacrifices from you. Carry on party people!

It's the SENIORS, and the DISABLED and the POOR who need to give up what little they
have left! The 80-year old man who lives off of $950 a month needs to give up 20 percent
of that and just shut the hell up! Elderly couples who can't afford health insurance
will just need to wait a few more years until they are covered, and if they die in the
meantime--you're just doing it for your country.

Sick. Really, really sick.
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  -Obama Offered To Raise Medicare Eligibility Age (from 65 to 67) As Part Of Grand Debt Deal kpete  Jul-11-11 03:45 PM   #0 
  - That is fucking awful. A death sentence to so many seniors.  CaliforniaPeggy   Jul-11-11 03:48 PM   #1 
  - He don't give a fuck what happens to elderly people...  Hubert Flottz   Jul-11-11 03:56 PM   #12 
  - You're right, he doesn't.  Lasher   Jul-12-11 05:14 AM   #259 
  - +1000 -- and the elderly aren't going to give a fuck for him in 2012  nashville_brook   Jul-12-11 03:26 PM   #302 
  - This action provides a neat multiplier effect: the more seniors who die prematurely  indepat   Jul-11-11 04:13 PM   #32 
  - Why not just raise it to 80 years old?  Dept of Beer   Jul-11-11 06:04 PM   #97 
  - Who is he listening to? Himself  DURHAM D   Jul-11-11 04:15 PM   #33 
  - Hope & Change  SSDA   Jul-11-11 04:50 PM   #63 
  - "Death Sentence"? WTF? just like the Death Panels?  johnaries   Jul-11-11 05:52 PM   #85 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-11-11 06:07 PM   #99 
  - Yes. This is a death sentence for that minority of people  JDPriestly   Jul-11-11 06:08 PM   #100 
  - When instead he should be proposing to LOWER the age to 55!  Agony   Jul-11-11 06:19 PM   #109 
  - Agree -- and Obama could do just that -- !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-11-11 07:27 PM   #171 
  - +1 nt  Deep13   Jul-11-11 06:54 PM   #150 
  - Right on  harvey007   Jul-11-11 07:45 PM   #185 
  - Not only that, lots of people over 55 are working in jobs that don't provide any medical insurance,  raccoon   Jul-12-11 07:51 AM   #283 
     - Yeah, I am one of them and I have chronic illness too. Obama sucks.  right2bfree   Jul-12-11 05:09 PM   #305 
  - Only two years?  murielm99   Jul-11-11 06:27 PM   #121 
  - +1 nt  snappyturtle   Jul-11-11 07:19 PM   #167 
  - .... Imo, simply Obama's disgusting theat to do this is enough .... !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-11-11 07:29 PM   #173 
  - I'm sure it won't take effect immediately.  N7Shepard   Jul-11-11 10:34 PM   #213 
     - So what?  murielm99   Jul-11-11 11:01 PM   #215 
     - Would you rather he get this deal done to at least save  N7Shepard   Jul-11-11 11:05 PM   #216 
     - The debt ceiling was raised seven times while Bush  murielm99   Jul-12-11 12:13 AM   #220 
     - That is one humdinger of a false dichotomy.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 02:38 AM   #229 
     - It may not be a true dichotomy, but it's not as false as you think  N7Shepard   Jul-12-11 06:56 PM   #307 
     - False dilemma. Those aren't the only 2 choices. nt  raccoon   Jul-12-11 07:52 AM   # 
     - +1  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 02:43 AM   #233 
     - I'm sure you didn't mean that to come over as selfishly as it did  tavalon   Jul-12-11 01:52 AM   #225 
     - So what? It will be just as wrong in 2016 as it would be now.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 02:34 AM   #228 
  - Look....I paid into health insurance for 45 years before it priced me out!  snappyturtle   Jul-11-11 07:15 PM   #164 
  - How old are you johnaries?  tavalon   Jul-12-11 01:49 AM   #224 
  - Very respectfully, I disagree. His or her statement stands on its own,  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 02:49 AM   #235 
     - Not really  tavalon   Jul-12-11 03:21 AM   #244 
        - IMO, the statement is naive, even if the poster were 90. I'm not sure it would be malicious if s/he  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:30 AM   #246 
           - Point taken  tavalon   Jul-12-11 03:40 AM   #248 
              - I guess  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 04:32 AM   #254 
  - LOL!  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 02:32 AM   #227 
  - Why doesn't he raise the celling by himself?  dotymed   Jul-11-11 05:53 PM   #86 
  - I think it is a constitutional issue that say only congress  DeadEyeDyck   Jul-11-11 07:28 PM   #172 
     - Raising the debt ceiling is not the same as raising revenues.  Matt Shapiro   Jul-11-11 10:04 PM   #208 
     - Sorry, just as Chuck Grassley was saying the 14th am. may require Rethugs to raise the debt ceiling,  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 02:46 AM   #234 
     - DeadEye, I am not sure about raising revenues, ie.., taxes,etc.  dotymed   Jul-12-11 08:01 AM   #287 
  - Keep in mind, the health care reform kicks in in 2014  bhikkhu   Jul-11-11 06:01 PM   #91 
  - I will be thrilled to be proven wrong on this question.  CaliforniaPeggy   Jul-11-11 06:05 PM   #98 
  - I'll be thrilled if I can finally get health insurance for my family  bhikkhu   Jul-11-11 06:16 PM   #107 
  - Even under the HCR bill, I think that seniors aged 65 and 66 would be better  totodeinhere   Jul-11-11 06:29 PM   #124 
  - Yep. Obama has opened the door to a very slippery slope, if I may mix metaphors.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:00 AM   #238 
  - Self delete. Totoinhere covered the point better.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 02:55 AM   #237 
  - Come now, 65-67 in this day and age is not that old. Also, what do you propose he do regarding  N7Shepard   Jul-11-11 10:33 PM   #212 
     - Remind us, what specific tax hikes have made it to the table from the Republican side so far?  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:06 AM   #240 
     - What's wrong with getting rid of the tax cuts for the rich, and ending some wars? nt  raccoon   Jul-12-11 07:55 AM   #285 
  - He can go fuck himself! eom  jannyk   Jul-11-11 03:48 PM   #2 
  - that's what liberals said to FDR...  dennis4868   Jul-11-11 03:49 PM   #3 
     - Obama is NO FDR!  DJ13   Jul-11-11 03:51 PM   #4 
     - HuffPo is going to have to do better than "five anonymous sources"  emulatorloo   Jul-11-11 03:53 PM   #7 
     - Obama loving is like  placton   Jul-11-11 04:33 PM   #43 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-11-11 05:13 PM   #75 
        - +1 --  defendandprotect   Jul-11-11 07:34 PM   #176 
        - Obama hating will believe anything, especially rumors made up by "anonymous sources".  emulatorloo   Jul-12-11 03:26 PM   #301 
     - Ah, all too obvious! Obama is not even a Clinton and I thought  emsimon33   Jul-11-11 05:06 PM   #70 
     - Clinton said he wanted Gramm Leach on his desk ASAP. GL, aka repeal of Glass Steagall,  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:20 AM   #243 
     - Obama is the ANTI-FDR .... !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-11-11 07:30 PM   #174 
     - well, liberals hated FDR...  dennis4868   Jul-11-11 11:46 PM   #218 
        - LOL!  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:21 AM   #245 
     - +1000!  im1013   Jul-11-11 10:02 PM   #207 
     - FDR took alot of crap from liberals...  dennis4868   Jul-11-11 11:44 PM   #217 
     - Baby steps? FDR? Are you kidding?  Art_from_Ark   Jul-12-11 02:29 AM   #226 
     - FDR? Baby steps? Like Obama? LOL!  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:41 AM   #249 
     - +1 Not even same breath eligible.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:13 AM   #242 
     - What FDR and LBJ gave to us, Obama may take away  neverforget   Jul-11-11 04:51 PM   #64 
     - Actually, LBJ signed Medicare into law  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 04:56 PM   #67 
        - You're correct. My bad. I changed it to include LBJ. Thanks!  neverforget   Jul-11-11 05:10 PM   #73 
        - True -- This will not end with Social Security & Medicare ....  defendandprotect   Jul-11-11 07:32 PM   #175 
        - Self delete.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:36 AM   # 
        - Self delete  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:36 AM   # 
     - Liberals did not say that to FDR. You are misinformed.  JDPriestly   Jul-11-11 06:10 PM   #102 
     - If they said it after FDR let Rethugs bully him about the deficit, liberals were right.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:11 AM   #241 
  - Such a move makes sense politically and financially.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 03:51 PM   #5 
  - If DOD spending were reined in, the wars stopped, the tax cuts for the rich deleted and we STILL  CurtEastPoint   Jul-11-11 03:53 PM   #8 
  - +1  sarcasmo   Jul-11-11 03:55 PM   #11 
  - Old people were already trying to decide if they should buy their  Hubert Flottz   Jul-11-11 04:01 PM   #15 
  - Is he saying he'd change the age for those already drawing SS  FLyellowdog   Jul-11-11 04:09 PM   #25 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-11-11 04:36 PM   #53 
     - Oh, fer Chrissakes.  Jackpine Radical   Jul-11-11 06:53 PM   #149 
     - Decent points.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 06:55 PM   #152 
     - Weak tactic.  U4ikLefty   Jul-11-11 10:06 PM   #209 
        - tactic? You think everyone is so disputatious they mainly consider tactics  skip fox   Jul-12-11 09:47 AM   #295 
           - Not everyone, just you.  U4ikLefty   Jul-12-11 02:26 PM   #300 
     - The Op is about the age for Medicare eligibility, not the age for collecting full old age benefits.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 05:01 AM   #256 
     - Wouldn't lose any money?  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 04:38 AM   #255 
  - WHY are they ignoring us on this?  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 04:02 PM   #16 
  - WHY are they ignoring us on this?  The Green Manalishi   Jul-11-11 05:23 PM   #78 
  - Because they believe that when all is said and done progressives will have nowhere else to go.  totodeinhere   Jul-11-11 06:35 PM   #132 
  - I am just sick over this.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 06:59 PM   #156 
  - "They know the Left has nowhere else to go." A quote from many Democratic  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 05:05 AM   #257 
     - Maybe we should start working right now for a bona fide progressive  totodeinhere   Jul-12-11 02:07 PM   #299 
  - Good points all. a columnist for Huffington claimed if we simply  skip fox   Jul-11-11 04:02 PM   #17 
  - I know a boatload of construction workers in their mid 50s  Mojorabbit   Jul-11-11 04:23 PM   #38 
  - Most retirements are not "planned." They just happen. Health  JDPriestly   Jul-11-11 06:12 PM   #103 
  - Point taken.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 06:23 PM   #113 
  - OP is about medicare. From the wiki on "retirement:"  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 05:14 AM   #258 
  - Yep, damn right! Nt  krabigirl   Jul-11-11 04:33 PM   #46 
  - Mostly I agree but I think you might be wrong about deleting the tax cuts  cstanleytech   Jul-11-11 04:34 PM   #49 
  - It's both.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 05:18 AM   #260 
  - Y E S!!!!!!  emsimon33   Jul-11-11 05:12 PM   #74 
  - Agreed. At least for a percentage of them. (My son is wealthy and  skip fox   Jul-11-11 06:31 PM   #126 
     - Those people CAN voluntarily forego benefits. Few of them do, however.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 05:20 AM   #261 
     - Actually many of them  emsimon33   Jul-12-11 01:54 PM   #298 
  - + 2 n/t  ejbr   Jul-11-11 05:57 PM   #89 
  - Sure, if you are a Republican.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 04:01 PM   #14 
  - + 1 to infinity.  Pooka Fey   Jul-11-11 04:05 PM   #24 
  - My answer too -if anything, it should be lowered.  canoeist52   Jul-11-11 04:10 PM   #28 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-11-11 04:10 PM   #27 
  - Just as one should never argue with the facts, it is folly to argue without them.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 04:25 PM   #39 
     - The working stiff is not living longer, the people that do manual labor are not living longer.  bahrbearian   Jul-11-11 05:50 PM   #82 
     - Okay. I understand. Probaly hard to find data on, but it's a good point.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 06:26 PM   #119 
     - Let us also not ignore the fact that these increases in longevity  Jackpine Radical   Jul-11-11 06:58 PM   #154 
     - Agreed.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 07:03 PM   #158 
        - Pragmatic?Puhleeze..What this excuse for a president even  neoralme   Jul-11-11 07:38 PM   #180 
        - The entire world is agreed then.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 07:39 PM   #181 
           - I care not what the world agrees to. I am a Democrat of 45 years. I  neoralme   Jul-11-11 08:43 PM   #195 
              - was making a joke based on your intemperance. "People smater than I am"  skip fox   Jul-11-11 09:17 PM   #203 
        - All positions are open to disagreement or supplementation. Sad you see it as attack.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 05:38 AM   #263 
     - Your figures are outdated. Also, they do not tell the whole story.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 05:32 AM   #262 
  - oddly, most other industrial nations disagree with that assessment...  mike_c   Jul-11-11 04:11 PM   #29 
  - Thanks for the reminder. You are so right.  JDPriestly   Jul-11-11 06:14 PM   #104 
  - True, if you have an (R) by your name.  Bluebear   Jul-11-11 04:17 PM   #35 
  - No R has ever come close to mine.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 04:27 PM   #41 
     - You've never said you're a Democrat, though.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 07:09 AM   #276 
  - No it doesn't ...  aggiesal   Jul-11-11 04:31 PM   #42 
  - many in their fifties "are between a rock and a hard place"  newspeak   Jul-12-11 11:21 AM   #296 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-11-11 04:34 PM   #48 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-11-11 04:35 PM   #50 
  - What makes more sense and is fiscally more sensible is  emsimon33   Jul-11-11 05:07 PM   #71 
  - Absolutely!!!!!!  skip fox   Jul-11-11 06:33 PM   #128 
  - An even better solution is to tax the rich and corporations  emsimon33   Jul-11-11 05:10 PM   #72 
  - Yes. I agree. But probably not politically viable at this time.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 06:28 PM   #123 
     - why, since 80% or more of Americans favor exactly that?  Doctor_J   Jul-11-11 09:00 PM   #199 
     - Great question. Seriously.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 09:03 PM   #201 
        - Playing with fire taking on the oligarchy?  tavalon   Jul-12-11 02:39 AM   #231 
        - The party and the president are dead on their feet anyway  Doctor_J   Jul-12-11 08:26 AM   #294 
     - Who decides what is politically viable at this time?  tavalon   Jul-12-11 02:38 AM   #230 
     - Only harming the most vulnerable is politically viable at this time?  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 05:44 AM   #264 
  - What??????  zalinda   Jul-11-11 05:14 PM   #76 
  - True.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 05:23 PM   #77 
     - So you are for job-description testing?  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 06:28 PM   #122 
        - Agreed. I have no plan, but those who make them might create decent ones.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 06:34 PM   #130 
  - Longevity rates? Life expectancy for black American men is 70.9  Bluenorthwest   Jul-11-11 05:54 PM   #87 
  - People are living longer with chronic, debilitating diseases  Divernan   Jul-11-11 06:29 PM   #125 
     - Both points well taken.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 06:43 PM   #140 
  - No, it doesn't, unless he just wants the Republicans to win in '12  AllyCat   Jul-11-11 06:03 PM   #93 
  - Um, no, they won't  tavalon   Jul-12-11 02:42 AM   #232 
  - And so many people in that age range have such a fucking easy time finding a job  HERVEPA   Jul-11-11 06:20 PM   #110 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-11-11 06:22 PM   #112 
  - Thank you.  Blue_In_AK   Jul-11-11 06:32 PM   #127 
  - I've actually been in jail twice for my convictions. Liberal ones!  skip fox   Jul-11-11 06:46 PM   #143 
     - I'm not the one who called you a fucking idiot.  Blue_In_AK   Jul-11-11 07:14 PM   #163 
     - As an old man, I'm not good on computers. I was responding to  skip fox   Jul-11-11 07:42 PM   #183 
     - Besides the hilarious nature of trying to use an argument to authority in an anonymous forum...  liberation   Jul-11-11 07:22 PM   #168 
     - Shoot the messanger.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 07:45 PM   #186 
     - Who's shooting anyone? I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy  liberation   Jul-11-11 07:53 PM   #188 
     - If pointing out unthinking activity for what it is parallels classifying people  skip fox   Jul-11-11 08:27 PM   #191 
     - Civil rights?  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 07:39 AM   #281 
  - Check out the link which I gave. IUt did life expectancy for those already 65.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 06:41 PM   #137 
  - I always thought Tom Tomorrow was a satirist  liberation   Jul-11-11 07:15 PM   #165 
  - Nice.  skip fox   Jul-11-11 07:47 PM   #187 
  - I wish I could rec this post.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 08:34 PM   #194 
  - LOL!  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 05:51 AM   #265 
  - It does not make sense financially...  CoffeeCat   Jul-11-11 10:01 PM   #206 
  - It makes neither political nor financial sense. Alao, the thread is about raising the Medfcare  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 03:58 AM   #250 
  - 5 -Anonymous- sources? Color me very unimpressed.with the claims of this article  emulatorloo   Jul-11-11 03:52 PM   #6 
  - How come Obama doesn't tell us what he put on the table? Is he scared too.  bahrbearian   Jul-11-11 05:52 PM   #84 
  - Let's never give any credence to any news story using anonymous sources.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 04:02 AM   #251 
     - I need at least one source on the record. Sorry,  emulatorloo   Jul-12-11 03:29 PM   #304 
  - Screwing the seniors over and over again, what a sick country we live in.  sarcasmo   Jul-11-11 03:54 PM   #9 
  - I'm not surprised. As a 63 year-old, I feel left out.  robcon   Jul-11-11 03:55 PM   #10 
  - If true..  girl gone mad   Jul-11-11 04:01 PM   #13 
  - It would make sense to adjust SS/medicare every now and then automatically  WatsonT   Jul-11-11 04:02 PM   #18 
  - Anything in there about stopping the massive for profit insurance cabal?  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 04:04 PM   #23 
  - That's what I'm talking about!  CoffeeCat   Jul-11-11 10:15 PM   #210 
  - Separate issue  WatsonT   Jul-12-11 08:02 AM   #289 
  - Then I want Assisted Suicide  femrap   Jul-11-11 04:17 PM   #34 
  - Catch 22. Not covered until age 67.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 05:53 AM   #266 
  - How about assisted suicide for anyone of sound mind that desires it?  WatsonT   Jul-12-11 08:02 AM   #290 
     - Me neither....  femrap   Jul-12-11 12:32 PM   #297 
        - "like we do with our pets"  WatsonT   Jul-13-11 08:23 AM   #310 
           - I think it has to do w/  femrap   Jul-13-11 01:20 PM   #312 
  - Especially if they are "saved" with "reforms"...  spedtr90   Jul-11-11 06:42 PM   #138 
  - NO it wouldn't because life expectancies are changing in BOTH directions  eridani   Jul-12-11 12:41 AM   #221 
  - That's not really true  WatsonT   Jul-12-11 08:04 AM   #291 
     - Of course it's true  eridani   Jul-12-11 09:31 PM   #308 
        - So the average life expectancy is still on the rise  WatsonT   Jul-13-11 08:21 AM   #309 
  - No, medicare for all and a government that keeps its word to its citizens/taxpayers make sense.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 04:03 AM   #252 
  - how many would die as a result of this?  mike_c   Jul-11-11 04:03 PM   #19 
  - this is the human toll  marions ghost   Jul-11-11 04:26 PM   #40 
  - "would be implemented down the road (likely in 2013)"  SoapBox   Jul-11-11 04:03 PM   #20 
  - You have that exactly right.  murielm99   Jul-11-11 06:35 PM   #131 
  - I don't fucking think so!  Pooka Fey   Jul-11-11 04:03 PM   #21 
  - my friend is 66. her husband is 63 and has pre-existing  DesertFlower   Jul-11-11 04:04 PM   #22 
  - Has anyone heard that Obama's plan to possibly raise the retirement age would go into effect soon?  skip fox   Jul-11-11 04:09 PM   #26 
  - Not so and please see the replies to Post #223.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 04:13 AM   #253 
  - It would have been a death sentence for me.  Cleita   Jul-11-11 04:12 PM   #30 
  - the trouble with Presidents...  awoke_in_2003   Jul-11-11 04:44 PM   #61 
  - Please write the Whitehouse, Cleita  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 06:36 PM   #134 
  - I will but I don't think it will get to the President.  Cleita   Jul-11-11 06:52 PM   #146 
  - Obama knows about negotiating with insurance companies  julian09   Jul-11-11 07:03 PM   #157 
     - Well, then don't mess with it if you want to keep it  Cleita   Jul-11-11 08:31 PM   #192 
     - First, his mother had private insurance, which had little to do with this thread  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 06:00 AM   #267 
  - How downhill he has gone from coming into the national spotlight in 2004,  alp227   Jul-11-11 04:13 PM   #31 
  - I like Joe  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 04:22 PM   #36 
  - Why not raise the cap instead??  Dappleganger   Jul-11-11 04:23 PM   #37 
  - Ding ding ding!  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 04:33 PM   #45 
  - There is no cap for Medicare.  DURHAM D   Jul-11-11 04:34 PM   #47 
  - Are you certain on that?  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 04:35 PM   #52 
  - No - Medicare is taken on all wages.  DURHAM D   Jul-11-11 04:36 PM   #54 
     - Thank you for the correction. I will revise to 'up the damn % we pay' then, then.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 04:39 PM   #55 
     - The Medicare deduction is too low IMO.  DURHAM D   Jul-11-11 04:46 PM   #62 
        - If only the Chamber of Commerce had your integrity  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 04:52 PM   #66 
     - It would be nice if capital gains were subject to medicare though.  N7Shepard   Jul-11-11 10:36 PM   #214 
     - You're right, actually, but I, and others(I think), we're talking about the cap on SS  tavalon   Jul-12-11 03:01 AM   #239 
  - The proceeds from raising the salary cap do not have to go to OASDI alone.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 06:09 AM   #268 
  - He's pitching for his own team  _ed_   Jul-11-11 06:23 PM   #115 
  - How is it that such an obvious idea hasn't occurred to them?  tavalon   Jul-12-11 02:53 AM   #236 
  - If true, its over. Bye Bye  OwnedByFerrets   Jul-11-11 04:33 PM   #44 
  - Another hand out to the scumbag insurance companies  naaman fletcher   Jul-11-11 04:35 PM   #51 
  - just full SS was delayed until I was 66....I took it  Gin   Jul-11-11 04:41 PM   #56 
     - The only acceptable option is full gov't health care. Nt  naaman fletcher   Jul-11-11 04:43 PM   #59 
     - The OP is not about the age at which you collect full "old age" benefits.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 06:15 AM   #269 
  - WTF  CreekDog   Jul-11-11 04:42 PM   #57 
  - Locking  CreekDog   Jul-11-11 04:42 PM   #58 
  - Got that right. The story we should be hearing is about how  harun   Jul-11-11 05:49 PM   #81 
  - Good point  MissDeeds   Jul-11-11 05:59 PM   #90 
     - IOKIODI  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 06:26 AM   #270 
  - Why don't they just send euthanasia pills to seniors?  Vinca   Jul-11-11 04:43 PM   #60 
  - They wouldn't be covered.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 06:39 AM   #272 
  - In 2013? LOL.. just AFTER the next election.  bvar22   Jul-11-11 04:51 PM   #65 
  - 2013?! That gives people a lot of time to plan!  high density   Jul-11-11 05:04 PM   #68 
  - A national health care plan that removes insurance companies  emsimon33   Jul-11-11 05:04 PM   #69 
  - I say NO!  Dyedinthewoolliberal   Jul-11-11 05:34 PM   #79 
  - Fuck Me!  harun   Jul-11-11 05:48 PM   #80 
  - History books would reflect that Reagan did more for SSI than Obama.  jtuck004   Jul-11-11 05:51 PM   #83 
  - That is a powerful statement right there.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 06:38 PM   #136 
     - IMO, Obama is to the right of Reagan--and he did rank Reagan as one of his  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 06:45 AM   #273 
  - Fuck him, I'm done. We need a 3rd party NOW. He doesn't deserve another term.  williesgirl   Jul-11-11 05:57 PM   #88 
  - I think this may be the first time I've felt compelled to say this:  AllyCat   Jul-11-11 06:02 PM   #92 
  - Why did Obama choose to run as/label himself a Democrat in the 1st place?  Divernan   Jul-11-11 06:23 PM   #114 
     - Definitely a "false flag" Democrat.  NCarolinawoman   Jul-11-11 06:58 PM   #155 
  - Ridiculous.  JDPriestly   Jul-11-11 06:04 PM   #94 
  - Presidents Govern with Congress  mckara   Jul-11-11 06:04 PM   #95 
  - Yeah, and how well did the insurance-company-written "healthcare plan"  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 06:43 PM   #139 
  - Democrats GAVE Obama a Democratic Senate and House in 2008  harvey007   Jul-11-11 08:00 PM   #189 
  - I Remember  mckara   Jul-11-11 11:55 PM   #219 
     - As to health care reform, corporate power found its way into the WH  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 07:12 AM   #277 
  - Yet, he did not allow Democrats in Congress to negotiate the  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 06:34 AM   #271 
  - Really???? What About 2008? WTF  we can do it   Jul-12-11 07:57 AM   #286 
  - I'd like to see how this meshes with the health care reform bill, in 2014  bhikkhu   Jul-11-11 06:04 PM   #96 
  - Whelp looks like dad won't be able to retire.  TNLib   Jul-11-11 06:09 PM   #101 
  - No worries - they will kick this can down the road and set it to implement in 2017  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 06:44 PM   #141 
  - Well ...there's a death panel for ya. Thanks a lot Caveman.  L0oniX   Jul-11-11 06:15 PM   #105 
  - Well that would fuck me over pretty good  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-11-11 06:15 PM   #106 
  - Here is some good reading that is starting to look pertinent to today's situation.  Yavapai   Jul-11-11 06:17 PM   #108 
  - I would've expected this from a Republican President n/t  OhioChick   Jul-11-11 06:21 PM   #111 
  - This is disgusting. If this wasn't enough for them then they flat out want to cripple the country  craigmatic   Jul-11-11 06:23 PM   #116 
  - I go on Medicare in a couple of months.  Blue_In_AK   Jul-11-11 06:24 PM   #117 
  - That wouldn't be politically expedient  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 06:47 PM   #144 
     - That's what they're counting on, I'm sure.  Blue_In_AK   Jul-11-11 07:10 PM   #160 
  - HELL NO !!!!  Maineman   Jul-11-11 06:26 PM   #118 
  - This reminds me of the TARP negotiations.... we all know how that ended.  lib2DaBone   Jul-11-11 06:26 PM   #120 
  - Not all change is positive  FlyByNight   Jul-11-11 06:34 PM   #129 
  - Right now, it is a trial balloon being floated by the admin just in time for the 6:00 news  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 06:53 PM   #148 
     - Republicans really want to kill it for a voucher system  julian09   Jul-11-11 07:16 PM   #166 
  - reminds me of a time  suzanner   Jul-11-11 06:35 PM   #133 
  - Judging by the song, the Germans were remarkably outspoken about such things.  raccoon   Jul-12-11 08:15 AM   #293 
  - WTF... WTF..... WTF.....  humbled_opinion   Jul-11-11 06:38 PM   #135 
  - Consider the costs of insurance under a mandated system (2014) to someone aged 65/66 nt  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 06:55 PM   #151 
  - They are hoping we're all dead before we qualify...our life expectancy is less  NC_Nurse   Jul-11-11 06:44 PM   #142 
  - My husband is just biding time until he has Medicare to get a colonoscopy.  Justitia   Jul-11-11 06:49 PM   #145 
  - Justitia, I implore you - write the whitehouse and tell them this  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-11-11 06:57 PM   #153 
  - This is an artificial crisis manufactured by the House Rs.  Deep13   Jul-11-11 06:53 PM   #147 
  - working and fighting chronic illness. Now he wants to raise the age limit?  right2bfree   Jul-11-11 07:08 PM   #159 
  - No, this is not the hope and changed that I voted for!  DollyM   Jul-11-11 07:10 PM   #161 
  - Never worthless to vote, but worse than worthless to refrain from voting.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 06:59 AM   #274 
  - Never worthless to vote, but worse than worthless to refrain from voting.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 06:59 AM   #275 
  - stick a fork in him  larwdem   Jul-11-11 07:14 PM   #162 
  - Disgusting, Obama!! Just what this suffering nation needs .. even less health care -- !!!!  defendandprotect   Jul-11-11 07:25 PM   #169 
  - WTF (n/t)  marasinghe   Jul-11-11 07:26 PM   #170 
  - He is truly a great Republican President. n/t  man4allcats   Jul-11-11 07:35 PM   #177 
  - So, let me see if I have this correct  HatTrick   Jul-11-11 07:36 PM   #178 
  - OP is about raising the age for Medicare eligibility, not OASDI eligibility.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 07:33 AM   #280 
  - More chess. And we, the pawns, get sacrificed. nt  paparush   Jul-11-11 07:37 PM   #179 
  - Barack Obama IS NOT OUR FRIEND  harvey007   Jul-11-11 07:42 PM   #182 
  - Exactly. And anyone who doesn't see that now is an idiot!  neoralme   Jul-11-11 09:44 PM   #205 
  - precisely  nashville_brook   Jul-12-11 03:28 PM   #303 
  - Retirement was kicked to 67 already; for those who retire at 65 it's 2 year wait for Medicare now.  freshwest   Jul-11-11 07:43 PM   #184 
  - Wrong - Medicare is 65 for all - SS is 67  ILFightinDem   Jul-11-11 08:32 PM   #193 
  - I read it on another post here on DU. It was in a detailed reply. It was part of how he ended...  freshwest   Jul-11-11 09:13 PM   #202 
     - Not sure what you are trying to say but 65 is the Medicare age for everyone -  DURHAM D   Jul-11-11 09:28 PM   #204 
        - If people will have to wait until 67 to get SS, they will get Medicare at 65?  freshwest   Jul-11-11 10:24 PM   #211 
           - Yes. You may have waited if you applied for disability.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 07:42 AM   #282 
  - You're mistaken about the facts.  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 07:14 AM   #278 
  - You guys are way too hard on the prez  Jim_Shorts   Jul-11-11 08:13 PM   #190 
  - Having it "way too good for way too long"-- like Lucky Ducky  Art_from_Ark   Jul-12-11 03:36 AM   #247 
  - LOL! When PUMAs and Rethugs used to say that Obama had never run anything,  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 07:19 AM   #279 
  - Bring in revenue you fucking imbeciles!!!!  Initech   Jul-11-11 08:46 PM   #196 
  - Raising the age counts as one of my third rails.  plumbob   Jul-11-11 08:49 PM   #197 
  - Appease, appease, appease  Doctor_J   Jul-11-11 08:58 PM   #198 
  - "...was willing to tackle some sacred cows as part of a larger package ..."  unkachuck   Jul-11-11 09:00 PM   #200 
  - doesn't matter what Obama offers...  oNobodyo   Jul-12-11 01:30 AM   #222 
  - Don't bet on it. It ain't over til it's over. As far as Obama handing Rethugs a rope  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 08:02 AM   #288 
  - This helps people get medical coverage how?  tavalon   Jul-12-11 01:47 AM   #223 
  - Social Security doesn't affect the debt. Why is it on the table?  jtrockville   Jul-12-11 07:52 AM   #284 
  - "Grand Debt Deal?" As in Great Depression and jumbo shrimp?  No Elephants   Jul-12-11 08:05 AM   #292 
  - This sucks big time!! WTF is wrong with him??  Cass   Jul-12-11 05:27 PM   #306 
  - Vile. And unnecessary.  somone   Jul-13-11 09:11 AM   #311 
  - I will not let this leave the main page. Politicians continue to screw us like our lives  sarcasmo   Jul-13-11 02:26 PM   #313 

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