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Response to Reply #129 |
| 164. We are not the enemy,Bush is! |
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Calm down and chill out and get off of the backs of African American posters and citizens.
African Americans by and large want the same ends that you do for this election. We fought and voted in massive numbers for Gore and to the best of my knowledge we will fight like hell to get Kerry elected.
We do have the right to question a candidate or Party or DU poster. We are no longer slaves but because of that history we are more than a bit sensitive to someone telling us how we should think or react on an issue that is real to us.
I am not asking you to feel our pain. It is clear that you don't care to go in that direction.
I must tell you that it is not as much what you are saying but the way that you are saying it!
Remember,we are not the enemy, Bush is. If you keep flaming this issue YOU will just add fuel to the fire.
Let's keep our eyes on the Prize...Victory in November which should translate into more compassionate leadership for all of us.
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| -Kerry opposes slavery reparations |
Freddie Stubbs |
Apr-16-04 08:36 AM |
#0 |
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He's right |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-16-04 08:37 AM |
#1 |
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you can't "divide" a country that's already divided |
noiretblu |
Apr-16-04 06:49 PM |
#130 |
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Make the south pay them |
niceypoo |
Apr-17-04 12:25 AM |
#159 |
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Not all southerners are members of this mindset |
BlackVelvetElvis |
Apr-17-04 01:54 AM |
#162 |
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How would you determine who pays? |
Cicero |
Apr-17-04 06:19 PM |
#181 |
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Remind me again of the difference between Kerry and Bush* |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 08:37 AM |
#2 |
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oh please! |
skooooo |
Apr-16-04 08:44 AM |
#11 |
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I only wish I were kidding |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 09:26 AM |
#43 |
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I sympathise with your concerns.. |
skooooo |
Apr-16-04 09:30 AM |
#44 |
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But why not further the debate |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 09:40 AM |
#47 |
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vote for Bush then?? |
skooooo |
Apr-16-04 09:54 AM |
#50 |
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If that's the only argument you can come up with |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 01:14 PM |
#103 |
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you and me both |
tinanator |
Apr-17-04 07:23 PM |
#182 |
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The fact that I personally feel torn by the issue is an indication that,.. |
Just Me |
Apr-16-04 10:17 AM |
#61 |
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Those of us whose ancestors bled on the Union side ... |
struggle4progress |
Apr-16-04 07:21 PM |
#138 |
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I want reparations too!!!! |
Trinity |
Apr-16-04 09:58 AM |
#51 |
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I didn't say have reparations |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 10:07 AM |
#55 |
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sure, have discussions about who should pay but not have them pay?? |
Demonaut |
Apr-16-04 10:12 AM |
#59 |
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OK I'm cool with a dialog about it ...... |
Trinity |
Apr-16-04 10:25 AM |
#66 |
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As a Pink skinned voter, I am also troubled |
nolabels |
Apr-16-04 11:07 AM |
#69 |
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Oh, yes,...I have definitely witnessed the undertones of discrimination. |
Just Me |
Apr-16-04 12:04 PM |
#84 |
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There's been plenty of debate over the years |
RummyTheDummy |
Apr-16-04 09:27 PM |
#148 |
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Then Go Ask The Norsemen For Reparations |
voted4wellstone |
Apr-16-04 11:16 AM |
#75 |
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Democrats Marginalize African-American Voters |
Rez |
Apr-16-04 11:10 AM |
#71 |
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kerry is talking to another audience while talking at black students |
noiretblu |
Apr-16-04 06:59 PM |
#133 |
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The irony is that as soon as there is a Republican they can point to |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 07:04 PM |
#134 |
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indeed... |
noiretblu |
Apr-16-04 07:09 PM |
#135 |
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by the way what is our agenda. I haven't seen it posted anywhere |
okieinpain |
Apr-17-04 07:31 PM |
#184 |
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start to sue the vatican |
termo |
Apr-16-04 11:31 AM |
#78 |
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The Wrong Reparations Debate |
HamdenRice |
Apr-16-04 12:25 PM |
#89 |
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as a black voter, let me say if you can't tell the difference between bush |
okieinpain |
Apr-17-04 01:48 AM |
#161 |
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You expect too much |
Tomee450 |
Apr-17-04 03:00 PM |
#167 |
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hey stay home, no problem. stay home. don't vote. put your |
okieinpain |
Apr-17-04 03:40 PM |
#171 |
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Oh please!! |
Tomee450 |
Apr-17-04 05:12 PM |
#178 |
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I wasn't joking don't vote, stay home. tell the dems unless they |
okieinpain |
Apr-17-04 07:29 PM |
#183 |
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If Martin Luther King and others |
Tomee450 |
Apr-17-04 08:24 PM |
#187 |
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none |
private_ryan |
Apr-16-04 08:44 AM |
#13 |
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Sharpton for VP! |
Vladimir |
Apr-16-04 08:46 AM |
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LOL |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-16-04 08:48 AM |
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LOL |
Vladimir |
Apr-16-04 08:49 AM |
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That's Bullshit and you know it. |
Bleachers7 |
Apr-16-04 08:45 AM |
#14 |
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Vote for a real liberal: Dennis Kucinich |
IndianaGreen |
Apr-16-04 08:49 AM |
#22 |
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DK already lost |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-16-04 08:51 AM |
#24 |
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Not in my book! Dennis is still running. |
IndianaGreen |
Apr-16-04 08:54 AM |
#28 |
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Alas, the book is closed |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-16-04 08:58 AM |
#30 |
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The book is not closed in Indiana |
IndianaGreen |
Apr-16-04 09:03 AM |
#36 |
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Tell you what |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-16-04 09:08 AM |
#38 |
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If Kerry self destructs or dies |
Bleachers7 |
Apr-16-04 09:03 AM |
#35 |
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Dennis is second last in the delegate count, by the way. |
AP |
Apr-16-04 07:13 PM |
#137 |
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My primary passed and I already did |
Bleachers7 |
Apr-16-04 09:02 AM |
#33 |
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Indiana primary is on May 4th |
IndianaGreen |
Apr-16-04 09:13 AM |
#40 |
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Surely you jest |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 09:33 AM |
#45 |
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You have a different time finding a difference between Kerry and Bush? |
Bleachers7 |
Apr-16-04 09:50 AM |
#48 |
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Start out in the present and work back |
eridani |
Apr-16-04 07:33 PM |
#140 |
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Abortion |
Freddie Stubbs |
Apr-16-04 08:59 AM |
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I will never base my vote on that issue. |
Zynx |
Apr-16-04 09:26 AM |
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But may do base their vote on that issue |
Freddie Stubbs |
Apr-16-04 09:59 AM |
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Are you kidding me? |
Redleg |
Apr-16-04 10:02 AM |
#53 |
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Taxes |
Freddie Stubbs |
Apr-16-04 10:08 AM |
#57 |
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If you read the entire article |
fujiyama |
Apr-16-04 10:26 AM |
#67 |
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Easy |
Kadie |
Apr-16-04 08:30 PM |
#145 |
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How about "I'm sorry" - can the white establishment in the US just say it? |
ChavezSpeakstheTruth |
Apr-16-04 08:40 AM |
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If I was "the Establishment" I would say I was sorry... |
BiggJawn |
Apr-16-04 08:42 AM |
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I'd say it if... |
DarkPhenyx |
Apr-16-04 08:43 AM |
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Apologize to whom? |
cocoabeach |
Apr-16-04 08:44 AM |
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who exactly should say what?? |
skooooo |
Apr-16-04 08:46 AM |
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They said that during the Civil War |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-16-04 08:49 AM |
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"'I'm sorry' -can the white establishment in the US just say it?" |
sistersofmercy |
Apr-16-04 09:00 AM |
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What they should really be apologising for |
Vladimir |
Apr-16-04 09:02 AM |
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I can't speak for all & I wasn't there but I'm Sorry. |
freetobegay |
Apr-16-04 09:12 AM |
#39 |
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You can |
Tomee450 |
Apr-16-04 03:44 PM |
#124 |
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I know how you feel |
WhereIsMyFreedom |
Apr-17-04 12:24 AM |
#158 |
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No - and I'm Sorry too |
ChavezSpeakstheTruth |
Apr-16-04 06:57 PM |
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On the "establishment" side, Clinton explicitly apologized ... |
struggle4progress |
Apr-16-04 10:06 PM |
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I thought Clinton Did apologize? |
frankly_fedup2 |
Apr-16-04 10:27 PM |
#152 |
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Well, Hell, folks...Voe for Ralph or stay home, then... |
BiggJawn |
Apr-16-04 08:41 AM |
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yup... |
skooooo |
Apr-16-04 08:43 AM |
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He is right. |
cocoabeach |
Apr-16-04 08:41 AM |
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A majority of the public also opposes same-sex marriage |
IndianaGreen |
Apr-16-04 08:52 AM |
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Nope, Only When White People Are Against It |
voted4wellstone |
Apr-16-04 08:53 AM |
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lol, does white include hispanics? |
Demonaut |
Apr-16-04 10:20 AM |
#62 |
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Last Time I Checked, About Half Of The Hispanic Population |
voted4wellstone |
Apr-16-04 11:15 AM |
#74 |
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Cool! Another reason to vote for him. |
DarkPhenyx |
Apr-16-04 08:42 AM |
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He also opposes gay marriage and transgender work rights in ENDA |
IndianaGreen |
Apr-16-04 08:48 AM |
#18 |
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All of them are against it. |
DarkPhenyx |
Apr-16-04 01:34 PM |
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Integration was not a "politically tenable position" for Democrats.... |
IndianaGreen |
Apr-16-04 01:40 PM |
#114 |
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Nope. Didn't say stay quiet. |
DarkPhenyx |
Apr-16-04 01:42 PM |
#115 |
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Well of course he does |
Vladimir |
Apr-16-04 08:42 AM |
#8 |
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A candidate for president supporting reparations |
vi5 |
Apr-16-04 08:46 AM |
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Give me one good reason why I should pay. John is right. |
Zynx |
Apr-16-04 08:50 AM |
#23 |
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African Americans |
Tomee450 |
Apr-17-04 03:10 PM |
#168 |
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thank you... |
sleepystudent |
Apr-17-04 07:41 PM |
#185 |
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Is anyone alive |
billybob537 |
Apr-16-04 08:52 AM |
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And there are no former slaves still around either |
Freddie Stubbs |
Apr-16-04 08:58 AM |
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I like the consensus here. John is right. |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Apr-16-04 09:04 AM |
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John is also polite. |
secondtermdenier |
Apr-16-04 10:22 AM |
#64 |
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issues of race are always relevant... |
sleepystudent |
Apr-17-04 07:44 PM |
#186 |
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Reparation |
orwell |
Apr-16-04 09:18 AM |
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Agreed- |
noonwitch |
Apr-16-04 09:35 AM |
#46 |
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Well said |
fujiyama |
Apr-16-04 10:15 AM |
#60 |
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Jobs, Education, health care |
Champ |
Apr-16-04 12:09 PM |
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A better reparations idea. |
David__77 |
Apr-16-04 09:53 AM |
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However, not all whites should have to pay that. |
Zynx |
Apr-16-04 10:04 AM |
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Why not, we paid detained Japanese, didn't we? |
David__77 |
Apr-16-04 10:25 AM |
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Didn't "Regan" do that? (nt) |
frankly_fedup2 |
Apr-16-04 10:54 PM |
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A better way to spend that reparation money |
WhereIsMyFreedom |
Apr-17-04 12:35 AM |
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What insensitivity!! |
Tomee450 |
Apr-17-04 03:26 PM |
#169 |
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But that is part of "AMERICA'S" history as well . . . |
frankly_fedup2 |
Apr-17-04 04:08 PM |
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I disagree with all you said. |
Tomee450 |
Apr-17-04 06:00 PM |
#180 |
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Oh boy- that stirred up some shit in here! |
Redleg |
Apr-16-04 10:08 AM |
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I have a question re reparations? |
FlaGranny |
Apr-16-04 10:09 AM |
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Those are good questions |
fujiyama |
Apr-16-04 10:20 AM |
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It doesn't have to be money |
dirk |
Apr-16-04 11:10 AM |
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Everyone should pay their share? |
Undemcided |
Apr-17-04 02:25 PM |
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Let them build casinos (nt) |
shpongled |
Apr-16-04 10:30 AM |
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What about reparations for Holocaust survivors...? |
JCMach1 |
Apr-16-04 11:09 AM |
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Marginalized... |
Rez |
Apr-16-04 11:10 AM |
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Very different |
mobuto |
Apr-16-04 12:05 PM |
#85 |
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Why Are So Many People |
voted4wellstone |
Apr-16-04 11:22 AM |
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I don't support bailing out rural communities either. |
Zynx |
Apr-16-04 12:09 PM |
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Your tax dollars are being used to blow up shit in Iraq |
Champ |
Apr-16-04 12:25 PM |
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Why don't you? |
mobuto |
Apr-16-04 12:28 PM |
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I hate to sound like a right-winger, but it's a lost cause. |
Zynx |
Apr-16-04 12:32 PM |
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I don't either |
mobuto |
Apr-16-04 12:38 PM |
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If we can do it relatively cheaply, fine. |
Zynx |
Apr-16-04 12:40 PM |
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It would save us money |
mobuto |
Apr-16-04 01:04 PM |
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I thought the US had a national rail network. |
ZR2 |
Apr-16-04 01:11 PM |
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Not a real national rail network. |
Zynx |
Apr-16-04 01:42 PM |
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Wrong |
mobuto |
Apr-16-04 01:45 PM |
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I totally agree there should have been |
FlaGranny |
Apr-16-04 12:47 PM |
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Decent Post |
Rez |
Apr-16-04 01:10 PM |
#100 |
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Immigrants |
voted4wellstone |
Apr-16-04 01:35 PM |
#110 |
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No Individual Handouts |
voted4wellstone |
Apr-16-04 01:31 PM |
#108 |
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... |
Rez |
Apr-16-04 01:51 PM |
#120 |
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Bless you, you intellectually consistent and honest person. |
Tinoire |
Apr-17-04 04:38 PM |
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I'm not sure he's not right on this |
Stuckinthebush |
Apr-16-04 11:26 AM |
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So do I. One more reason to vote for him |
bif |
Apr-16-04 11:33 AM |
#79 |
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who does? |
funkybutt |
Apr-16-04 11:44 AM |
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Slavery was here before the United States even existed. |
Nile |
Apr-16-04 11:56 AM |
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So? |
mobuto |
Apr-16-04 12:01 PM |
#83 |
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So why totally blame the U.S. when... |
Nile |
Apr-16-04 12:32 PM |
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Who's totally blaming the US? |
mobuto |
Apr-16-04 12:39 PM |
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"So why totally blame the U.S. when... |
tafui |
Apr-16-04 01:24 PM |
#106 |
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Africa is also culpable. |
DarkPhenyx |
Apr-16-04 01:36 PM |
#111 |
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So what? |
mobuto |
Apr-16-04 01:50 PM |
#119 |
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Guilty of what? |
DarkPhenyx |
Apr-16-04 02:00 PM |
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Not at all |
mobuto |
Apr-16-04 02:35 PM |
#123 |
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And at the time America began using slave labor... |
DarkPhenyx |
Apr-16-04 04:04 PM |
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Generally accepted practice? |
mobuto |
Apr-16-04 04:59 PM |
#127 |
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Yes, yes, yes... |
DarkPhenyx |
Apr-16-04 05:04 PM |
#128 |
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An issue for some? |
mobuto |
Apr-17-04 02:36 PM |
#166 |
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It's good to see that Kerry isn't a total idiot |
dolstein |
Apr-16-04 11:57 AM |
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Debatable |
Tinoire |
Apr-17-04 04:40 PM |
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so who in a position of power doesn't? |
seekthetruth |
Apr-16-04 11:57 AM |
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I Find It Interesting |
Rez |
Apr-16-04 12:57 PM |
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It is strange |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 01:08 PM |
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Practicalities are an important part of the discussion. |
FlaGranny |
Apr-16-04 01:30 PM |
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I know you're addressing this to someone else |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 01:52 PM |
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Then we agree. |
FlaGranny |
Apr-16-04 04:46 PM |
#126 |
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A message to DU |
goclark |
Apr-16-04 10:01 PM |
#149 |
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It's added to my pain too |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 10:18 PM |
#151 |
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Amen |
Tomee450 |
Apr-17-04 03:44 PM |
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Slavery reparations after Puritan reparations and Indian |
Chicago Democrat |
Apr-16-04 01:12 PM |
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Vandal reparations and Neanderthal reparation and Amoeba |
Chicago Democrat |
Apr-16-04 01:15 PM |
#104 |
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Chicago Democrat |
Rez |
Apr-16-04 01:17 PM |
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Slavery reparations piss me off! What a complete distraction |
Chicago Democrat |
Apr-16-04 06:47 PM |
#129 |
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Why are you so angry and callous about it? |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 07:10 PM |
#136 |
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Because we are at war and fascist run our government. |
Chicago Democrat |
Apr-16-04 07:27 PM |
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Your tone is disturbing |
pbl |
Apr-16-04 07:45 PM |
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Reparations is a race baiting issue... Your tactics are passive |
Chicago Democrat |
Apr-16-04 08:18 PM |
#144 |
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We are not the enemy,Bush is! |
goclark |
Apr-17-04 06:54 AM |
#164 |
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I see your point. |
Zynx |
Apr-16-04 01:45 PM |
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Democrats are my freinds and I hate arguing with my friends |
Chicago Democrat |
Apr-16-04 11:51 PM |
#157 |
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How many of those who seek reparations |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Apr-16-04 01:37 PM |
#112 |
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HAHAHAHA |
Rez |
Apr-16-04 01:40 PM |
#113 |
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well...i'm not suprised: white people don't like reparations |
noiretblu |
Apr-16-04 06:51 PM |
#131 |
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He is right |
Uzybone |
Apr-16-04 07:49 PM |
#142 |
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Utter nonsense!! |
Tomee450 |
Apr-16-04 08:13 PM |
#143 |
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I agree...this thread IS sickening... |
Q |
Apr-17-04 03:33 PM |
#170 |
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It is so |
Tomee450 |
Apr-17-04 08:38 PM |
#188 |
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He needs to say more |
goclark |
Apr-16-04 09:08 PM |
#146 |
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American Indians deserve them far more than Blacks |
RummyTheDummy |
Apr-16-04 09:25 PM |
#147 |
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Native Americans do receive certain forms of reparations. |
Tomee450 |
Apr-16-04 10:30 PM |
#153 |
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Thank you for your kindness n/t |
goclark |
Apr-16-04 11:45 PM |
#156 |
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Greed divides every time. |
preciousdove |
Apr-16-04 10:37 PM |
#154 |
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I'm not going to pay reparations for Slavery. |
TexasMexican |
Apr-17-04 03:00 AM |
#163 |
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What are you talking about? |
Tomee450 |
Apr-17-04 04:03 PM |
#173 |
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Neither party is ever going to agree to it |
scmirage |
Apr-17-04 05:00 PM |
#177 |
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It was said that this country could not afford so many social programs |
Tomee450 |
Apr-17-04 05:44 PM |
#179 |
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Kerry opposes "repairs"... |
Al Newer |
Apr-17-04 10:07 PM |
#189 |
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I would give reparations to a few |
serryjw |
Apr-17-04 11:08 PM |
#190 |