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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 12:22 PM
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23. Poignantly symbolic that the country who 'invented' democracy has
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 01:01 PM by Dover
found itself again, 2400 years later, in the crucible of social & governmental chaos, stirring up the sediment of corruption that has been accumulating at the bottom since the inception of the democratic experiment.

Of course, "democracy" and government FOR the PEOPLE and BY the PEOPLE was, at it root beginnings,
not quite so inclusive as it sounded. In fact the word "demokratia" is a bit ambiguous.

All citizens of Athens were required to vote on any new law that the body of 500 citizens created. One man, one vote, majority ruled. However, women, children, and slaves were not citizens, and thus could not vote. And it seems that basic exclusivity is STILL at the root of the problem. So what will we create in its stead?

A nice little article about all this "power to the people" stuff:

The Democratic Experiment

... The democratic system was not, of course, without internal critics, and when Athens had been weakened by the catastrophic Peloponnesian War (431-404) these critics got their chance to translate word into deed. In 411 and again in 404 Athenian oligarchs led counter-revolutions that replaced democracy with extreme oligarchy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greeks/greekdemocr...


There is a great deal of corruption in our own system of government here in the U.S., beginning with the fundamental issue of the fallibility and corruptability of our high tech voting systems.
Add to that the money-in-politics issue which pretty much assures that the richest have the most influence, the exclusivity of a two party stranglehold, etc. Etc. ETC. and it seems our own "democratic" government only faintly resembles the representative government outlined in both our Constitution and Bill of Rights. So what now? It's one thing to tear down a broken system.
It's quite another to create and implement a new type of governance that reflects who we are now - our values, our needs, our moment in time, our vision of the future, etc.



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