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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. Venezuelan TV is pro-Chavez, if you're not, you lose your license.
The newspapers are anti-Chavez.

That does not justify Chavez using "chains" intended for emergencies as a method to spout daily propaganda. If Bush was on every day two times a day here I doubt you would've backed it.
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  -Hugo Chavez's brother talks of armed struggle Zorro  Jun-26-11 08:37 PM   #0 
  - I wonder, when American politicians talk like that  Enrique   Jun-26-11 08:39 PM   #1 
  - Yeah, at least two right-wing women, the loon in Arizona, and Bachman said the same crap in 2010.  Judi Lynn   Jun-26-11 08:54 PM   #7 
  - Do you have links for those quotes?  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 09:05 PM   #9 
  - Here's one  Doctor_J   Jun-26-11 10:10 PM   #37 
     - See post #46.  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 10:58 PM   #50 
  - Are you comparing Chavistas to teabaggers?  Zorro   Jun-26-11 09:08 PM   #10 
  - Ouch.  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 09:35 PM   #21 
  - And Virginia Foxx, U.S. House of Representatives, North Carolina.  HubertHeaver   Jun-26-11 09:44 PM   #26 
  - It was a Nevada loon - not an AZ loon...  sweetloukillbot   Jun-27-11 12:42 AM   #54 
     - They'd be wise not to, that'd be treason.  joshcryer   Jun-27-11 03:16 AM   #60 
  - It could be worse. He could start his own beer label.  EFerrari   Jun-26-11 09:02 PM   #8 
     - Has a sibling of a sitting US president ever made similar statements?  Zorro   Jun-26-11 09:09 PM   #11 
        - Don't worry, Zorro, we won't let him hurt you.  EFerrari   Jun-26-11 09:13 PM   #13 
        - Has a sibling of a sitting US president ever made similar statements?  Zorro   Jun-26-11 09:15 PM   #15 
           - I don't keep track of presidential brothers as assiduously as you do.  EFerrari   Jun-26-11 09:22 PM   #16 
           - Jebby to the NRA in 2002: "The sound of our guns is the sound of freedom"  EFerrari   Jun-26-11 09:28 PM   #17 
           - Nothing anywhere near "It would be inexcusable to limit ourselves to only the electoral."  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 09:34 PM   #19 
           - Try this one then  Doctor_J   Jun-26-11 10:15 PM   #40 
              - Yep, she lost the election over that nonsense.  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 10:29 PM   #46 
              - He said sibling  Ter   Jun-26-11 11:24 PM   #51 
           - Sorry your page was not found ...  Zorro   Jun-26-11 09:35 PM   #20 
              - Google the quote. It was to the... guess... NRA.  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 09:36 PM   #23 
              - Weird justification  Zorro   Jun-26-11 09:45 PM   #28 
                 - Weird generalization, from one statement by one individual to Chavistas.  EFerrari   Jun-26-11 09:47 PM   #31 
                    - You talking about Jeb?  Zorro   Jun-26-11 10:22 PM   #43 
              - That would be the only one. You might try to search the article name:  EFerrari   Jun-26-11 09:45 PM   #29 
                 - Holy shit! That's exact same thing as saying  hughee99   Jun-26-11 10:50 PM   #49 
                    - What Jebby says short circuits the democratic process altogether.  EFerrari   Jun-26-11 11:35 PM   #52 
                       - I'm not going to defend Jeb here but that's downright silly.  joshcryer   Jun-27-11 12:32 AM   #53 
                       - indeed, but her comparison of Chavistas to the tea party isn't too far fetched  Bacchus39   Jun-27-11 07:09 AM   #76 
                          - Rght, because Chavistas are violent racists who want to kill off our social safety net  EFerrari   Jun-27-11 04:37 PM   #87 
                             - so you are qualifying your comparison then??  Bacchus39   Jun-27-11 05:16 PM   #88 
                                - Um, no, I didn't.  EFerrari   Jun-27-11 05:42 PM   #89 
                       - Do you think suggesting that the "having guns" means  hughee99   Jun-28-11 08:43 AM   #97 
                          - Oh, I'm not equating the two. I'm saying Jebby's is much worse.  EFerrari   Jun-28-11 01:53 PM   #107 
                             - do you agree with Adan Chavez that armed struggle may be necessary to combat "enemies"?  Bacchus39   Jun-28-11 02:02 PM   #111 
                             - Perhaps we're just reading it different, but in my opinion  hughee99   Jun-28-11 06:02 PM   #122 
           - Yes. Jebby made a statement about San Francisco. Followed  HubertHeaver   Jun-26-11 09:31 PM   #18 
           - Not just a "sibling of a sitting US president" but also a high party leader and governor.  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 09:40 PM   #25 
           - Except he didn't say it. That AP lied, big surprise.  sabrina 1   Jun-28-11 01:59 PM   #109 
              - He did say it.  ChangoLoa   Jun-28-11 02:10 PM   #114 
              - That's utterly false, and when you posted that it was made clear that that was false.  joshcryer   Jun-29-11 01:26 AM   #137 
           - Well a father of one and grandfather of another sitting  sabrina 1   Jun-28-11 01:25 PM   #105 
           - popular, everywhere...? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  Zorro   Jun-29-11 08:45 AM   #139 
           - No. But Bill Clinton's mama's chiropractor is DEAD!!!!!!!!1111111  bitchkitty   Jun-28-11 09:33 PM   #127 
        - The oligarchs who run this country make their statements behind closed doors and in the form of  Citizen Worker   Jun-26-11 09:36 PM   #22 
        - It's a wash. We have massive paid for propaganda campigns. Chavez is on TV twice a day, mandatory.  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 09:38 PM   #24 
        - Who's picking up the slack in his absence?  Zorro   Jun-26-11 09:47 PM   #30 
        - Not sure. I doubt they'd leave the TV go weeks without Big Brother mouthing off about his latest...  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 09:51 PM   #32 
           - Actually nearly all of the Venezuelan TV and radio stations are right-wing  Doctor_J   Jun-26-11 10:05 PM   #34 
           - Venezuelan TV is pro-Chavez, if you're not, you lose your license.  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 10:14 PM   #39 
           - Are you kidding?  Doctor_J   Jun-26-11 10:18 PM   #42 
           - By law?  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 10:28 PM   #45 
           - Why are you recyclng the same old lies?  JackRiddler   Jun-27-11 03:37 PM   #86 
              - Actually, that's bullshit. RCTV lost their license. Venevisin and Televen still have theirs.  joshcryer   Jun-28-11 02:15 AM   #92 
                 - You're doubling down on the bullshit. RCTV was instrumental in supporting the coup...  JackRiddler   Jun-28-11 01:05 PM   #101 
                 - Venevisin was just as complicit, Venevisin changed their programming. That is a fact.  joshcryer   Jun-29-11 01:08 AM   #132 
                 - Actually you have demonstrated how little you know with this  sabrina 1   Jun-28-11 01:43 PM   #106 
                    - Why hasn't there been a trial then?  ChangoLoa   Jun-28-11 02:01 PM   #110 
                    - There have been trials. Like I said, people need to learn  sabrina 1   Jun-28-11 02:06 PM   #113 
                       - when were these trials? feel free to provide evidence n/t  Bacchus39   Jun-28-11 02:17 PM   #116 
                          - Of course!  sabrina 1   Jun-28-11 02:56 PM   #118 
                             - BS. There hasn't been a single trial about the MEDIA COMPLICITY.  ChangoLoa   Jun-28-11 04:05 PM   #119 
                                - The comment I responded to asked if there had been any  sabrina 1   Jun-28-11 04:31 PM   #120 
                                   - Read this sub-thread again instead of childishly deflecting the argument  ChangoLoa   Jun-28-11 05:07 PM   #121 
                                   - There is a lawsuit against the private media  sabrina 1   Jun-28-11 08:16 PM   #125 
                                   - Look, I'm merely pointing out that the victimization of Chavez is outdated  ChangoLoa   Jun-28-11 09:47 PM   #129 
                                   - We were informed, even in our corporate media, RCTV still broadcasts cable shows,  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-11 10:47 PM   #130 
                                   - A broadcast license is a lot different from a cable license.  joshcryer   Jun-29-11 01:11 AM   #134 
                                   - Not in Venezuela  ChangoLoa   Jun-29-11 08:14 AM   #138 
                    - I absolutely support it in Latin American countries! Nothing I have said suggests otherwise.  joshcryer   Jun-29-11 01:10 AM   #133 
           - Not at all. 5 out of 10 national TV stations in Venezuela are State owned and fanatically pro-Chavez  ChangoLoa   Jun-27-11 06:28 AM   #68 
           - Hmm, one more and that would represent the Venezuelan electorate.  JackRiddler   Jun-28-11 06:08 PM   #123 
              - So State owned = Party owned  ChangoLoa   Jun-28-11 06:22 PM   #124 
                 - Thanks for a reasonable response.  JackRiddler   Jun-28-11 09:11 PM   #126 
           - Here's something helpful:  Judi Lynn   Jun-27-11 06:37 AM   #69 
              - So what's the point? RCTV was closed... precisely.  ChangoLoa   Jun-27-11 06:54 AM   #71 
                 - RCTV did the split screen thing (I think Venevisin did, too). Venevisin *met with the coupsters.*  joshcryer   Jun-28-11 02:18 AM   #93 
                    - So I guess what you're saying is that Venevision should have also lost their license?  JackRiddler   Jun-28-11 01:07 PM   # 
                       - Yes, for consistency, Venevisin should've lost the license. But it's owned by a *billionire*...  joshcryer   Jun-29-11 01:15 AM   #135 
           - And until he returns to Caracas  Zorro   Jun-26-11 10:24 PM   #44 
        - No, not a wash actually. We have "massive paid for propaganda campaigns" and between campaign  Citizen Worker   Jun-26-11 10:07 PM   #36 
        - shhh...don't tell them that  Doctor_J   Jun-26-11 10:13 PM   #38 
           - Hugo is down in polls from his all time highs, he loses 10 points a year or something like that.  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 10:16 PM   #41 
        - BTW, the entire thread above is to detract from the fact that Chavez is on TV twice a day.  joshcryer   Jun-29-11 01:21 AM   #136 
        - And they own every last outlet of mass media  Doctor_J   Jun-26-11 10:07 PM   #35 
        - No, but sitting US legislators have  Doctor_J   Jun-26-11 10:04 PM   #33 
  - Translation:  Archae   Jun-26-11 08:41 PM   #2 
  - Chavez has never lost an election. And all of them have been free. nt  The Big Vetolski   Jun-26-11 08:47 PM   #3 
  - He did lead a failed coup before that, though.  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 08:50 PM   #5 
  - he lost the 2007 referendum but simply held another one a year later n/t  Bacchus39   Jun-26-11 09:13 PM   #12 
  - Do you have something to back that up with?  sabrina 1   Jun-28-11 01:55 PM   #108 
  - The Trotskyites would defend this barbarism.  joshcryer   Jun-26-11 08:48 PM   #4 
  - Excelpt it was not said. Does it bother you at all  sabrina 1   Jun-28-11 02:04 PM   #112 
     - It was said with those exact words. Post #56 is a mistake. nt  ChangoLoa   Jun-28-11 02:44 PM   #117 
  - The worshippers of Saint Hugo will be showing up in 5...4...3...2...  47of74   Jun-26-11 08:53 PM   #6 
  - Prayer and arms, sounds familiar. n/t  RKP5637   Jun-26-11 09:14 PM   #14 
  - Brother of a President for life...  MellowDem   Jun-26-11 09:45 PM   #27 
  - "We believe in the democratic process...  hughee99   Jun-26-11 10:44 PM   #47 
  - The ballot has done far more for the left in Latin America over the last 20 years  eridani   Jun-26-11 10:46 PM   #48 
  - First I dont care for chavez to much especially since he pushed for  cstanleytech   Jun-27-11 01:04 AM   #55 
  - Adn Chvez: did NOT utter the word "armed."  rabs   Jun-27-11 02:29 AM   #56 
     - Hey yell at the AP not me.  cstanleytech   Jun-27-11 02:57 AM   #57 
     - Not yelling at you  rabs   Jun-27-11 03:03 AM   #58 
        - yes, he did say armed struggle. you have to continue reading past the 4th paragraph  Bacchus39   Jun-27-11 07:08 AM   #75 
        - K  cstanleytech   Jun-27-11 08:56 AM   #80 
     - That's the *written* essay. Do you have a link to video where he *said* that verbatim?  joshcryer   Jun-27-11 03:12 AM   #59 
     - Good lord almighty. That's quite a spin Cristopher Toothaker gave that story, isn't it?  Judi Lynn   Jun-27-11 03:27 AM   #61 
     - Do you have evidence the written article is what was spoken verbatim?  joshcryer   Jun-27-11 03:31 AM   #62 
     - And post 75 shows why you shouldn't believe everything you read on the intertubes  snooper2   Jun-28-11 11:18 AM   #99 
     - There's something I forgot to add:  Judi Lynn   Jun-27-11 03:35 AM   #63 
     - Maybe you should watch this:  joshcryer   Jun-27-11 04:32 AM   #65 
     - after further review (meaning continue reading the article)  Bacchus39   Jun-27-11 07:06 AM   #74 
     - I found the video, you are outright wrong. I see what you were trying to do.  joshcryer   Jun-27-11 04:31 AM   #64 
     - yes, he did  Bacchus39   Jun-27-11 07:03 AM   #73 
     - Well other routes...  CJvR   Jun-27-11 08:41 AM   #79 
     - Thats even assuming that said election in the future is not rigged  cstanleytech   Jun-27-11 09:01 AM   #81 
     - Well...  CJvR   Jun-27-11 09:12 AM   #83 
     - You have no idea what you're talking about.  EFerrari   Jun-28-11 02:45 AM   #95 
        - It's easy to pass audits and monitors when you forbid candidates from being on the rolls...  joshcryer   Jun-28-11 02:48 AM   #96 
        - Not to mention...  CJvR   Jun-28-11 01:05 PM   #100 
        - I assure you...  CJvR   Jun-28-11 01:07 PM   #102 
     - If you count Katherine-Harris style removing candidates from being voted on thing, yeah.  joshcryer   Jun-28-11 02:06 AM   #91 
     - Innuendo and smear, that's pretty much what you have.  EFerrari   Jun-28-11 02:44 AM   #94 
     - He DID use that exact word  ChangoLoa   Jun-28-11 02:13 PM   #115 
  - Sounds like Chavez might be...  SkyDaddy7   Jun-27-11 05:20 AM   #66 
  - Here are the last 4 paragraphs from the Miami Herald's Sunday offering on this material:  Judi Lynn   Jun-27-11 05:27 AM   #67 
  - Maybe the PSUV paramilitaries will finally become useful  ChangoLoa   Jun-27-11 06:45 AM   #70 
  - Would they mow down protesters in the street like Carlos Andres Perez' military? (Graphic images.)  Judi Lynn   Jun-27-11 07:01 AM   #72 
     - Maybe they would. So what's your point?  spanza   Jun-27-11 07:16 AM   #77 
        - For DU'ers who haven't taken time to read about Chavez' coup,  Judi Lynn   Jun-27-11 07:38 AM   #78 
           - notice how this post is ignored  fascisthunter   Jun-28-11 01:18 PM   #104 
              - They can't really find much to make him look bad.  bitchkitty   Jun-28-11 09:42 PM   #128 
              - It's an education watching them throw themselves on this topic day after day.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-11 11:39 PM   #131 
                 - Yes it is...  fascisthunter   Jun-29-11 08:52 AM   #140 
  - In other words "we respect the will of the people,as long as  sufrommich   Jun-27-11 09:07 AM   #82 
  - What, only 11 Recs when finally a hugh truth is unmasked?!1 n/t  UTUSN   Jun-27-11 09:13 AM   #84 
  - I see that a thread with 2000+ views only has 11 Recs. Could it be *propaganda*?!1 n/t  UTUSN   Jun-27-11 08:46 PM   #90 
  - As someone who dislikes Chavez and thinks he does not care in the least bit about freedom,  chrisa   Jun-27-11 09:21 AM   #85 
  - "All options are on the table!" nt  bemildred   Jun-28-11 09:26 AM   #98 
  - another dur hit piece...  fascisthunter   Jun-28-11 01:14 PM   #103 

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