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buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:07 PM
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54. So can anyone speculate?
I'm going to blame space aliens.
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  -Fire was likely started by illegal immigrants, Dever says Ptah  Jun-21-11 03:12 PM   #0 
  - "Anything is possible, except for lightning"  TheWraith   Jun-21-11 03:14 PM   #1 
  - There has been no lightning, or even significant clouds here for many months.  Ptah   Jun-21-11 03:17 PM   #5 
     - I assumed that, but still, it sounds hysterical.  TheWraith   Jun-21-11 03:34 PM   #14 
        - And even if it was dry lightning starting the fires  Yavapai   Jun-21-11 05:21 PM   #33 
  - Is It an Electric Fence?  AndyTiedye   Jun-21-11 03:15 PM   #2 
  - Don't whiz on the electric fence.  damntexdem   Jun-21-11 03:16 PM   #4 
  - Even if it was started by an undocumented person, and I do not necessarily accept that it was,  totodeinhere   Jun-21-11 03:16 PM   #3 
  - Unless they are smuggling undocumented drugs  benlurkin   Jun-21-11 03:23 PM   #6 
  - It's a bit silly to say that a group of people defined by breaking at least one law  WatsonT   Jun-23-11 08:45 AM   #67 
  - maybe a Minuteman did it.  provis99   Jun-21-11 03:23 PM   #7 
  - Or dropping his Marlboro  Dogtown   Jun-21-11 03:28 PM   #9 
     - Nah. The piss from his pants would extinguish that fire.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-21-11 10:19 PM   #57 
        - This subthread is priceless.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-22-11 04:16 PM   #66 
  - I am in favor of more liberal immigration laws, but.....  panader0   Jun-21-11 03:27 PM   #8 
  - I agree. With more liberal immigration laws,  Ptah   Jun-21-11 03:28 PM   #10 
  - Exactly--the same goes for the pot laws.  panader0   Jun-21-11 03:37 PM   #15 
  - everything still OK for you down there?  Kali   Jun-21-11 04:57 PM   #25 
  - Um no, haven't you been paying attention?  WatsonT   Jun-23-11 08:46 AM   #68 
  - Yeah! Those illegals are starting the disastrous forest fires our good legal 'Mericans could be  Hissyspit   Jun-21-11 03:32 PM   #11 
  - Gee, that's almost as convenient as that other fire.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-21-11 03:32 PM   #12 
  - Here's the reason!  KansDem   Jun-21-11 03:32 PM   #13 
  - Get lots of suspicious fires when the economy gets bad.  Downwinder   Jun-21-11 03:44 PM   #16 
  - Sounds like a reasonable assumption to me  slackmaster   Jun-21-11 03:44 PM   #17 
  - Yes, I agree that the sheriff made a pretty good case for *this* fire's origin  Ptah   Jun-21-11 04:02 PM   #18 
  - What is Arizona Border Trash?  Springer9   Jun-21-11 04:02 PM   #19 
  - that's disgusting. This has got to stop. We need to stop the drug war & have a sane immigration  wordpix   Jun-21-11 05:07 PM   #27 
  - How old are these photos? When exactly were they taken?  SoapBox   Jun-21-11 05:13 PM   #30 
  - Well this is anecdotal, and I'm sure totally unrelated but  Springer9   Jun-21-11 07:55 PM   #51 
  - I think I know that van!  Kali   Jun-21-11 05:14 PM   #31 
  - Im not seeing many who claim its impossible but I am seeing many asking  cstanleytech   Jun-21-11 04:16 PM   #21 
  - I am generally a big defender of immigrants (do a search)  Kali   Jun-21-11 05:02 PM   #26 
     - Actually thats not evidence but rather an opinion you are offering but  cstanleytech   Jun-21-11 06:55 PM   #39 
        - no burn/smokey the bear for 50 years  Kali   Jun-21-11 07:03 PM   #41 
           - Ah in other words the same mistakes they made with yellowstone.  cstanleytech   Jun-21-11 07:12 PM   #44 
              - not really familiar with Yellowstone  Kali   Jun-21-11 07:20 PM   #46 
              - It was a nationwide mistake.  Ptah   Jun-21-11 07:22 PM   #47 
  - Are you sure it wasn't the unions? Or married gay couples? Or Michael Moore?  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-21-11 09:36 PM   #53 
     - Absolutely.  KamaAina   Jun-22-11 03:57 PM   #65 
  - A large percentage of fires around here come from people target shooting in the woods  nichomachus   Jun-21-11 04:14 PM   #20 
  - Use a lot of tracers, do they?  Lasher   Jun-21-11 11:53 PM   #58 
  - Cool. Don't waste time investigating, just blame the brown people.  jtuck004   Jun-21-11 04:27 PM   #22 
  - +1  alstephenson   Jun-21-11 04:32 PM   #23 
  - I think in this case the speculation is pretty well grounded.  Kali   Jun-21-11 05:07 PM   #28 
  - when people who used to live here speculated that black  jtuck004   Jun-21-11 06:25 PM   #36 
     - um, do you have any clue what the geography of the area is?  Kali   Jun-21-11 07:07 PM   #42 
        - Oh, it's the geography. I thought for a time it was people assuming  jtuck004   Jun-21-11 07:35 PM   #48 
           - Look, you are snarking at the wrong person  Kali   Jun-21-11 07:53 PM   #50 
              - People are jumping to conclusions with no evidence, just speculation  jtuck004   Jun-21-11 10:10 PM   #55 
              - Dupe  jtuck004   Jun-21-11 10:10 PM   #56 
  - Or conversely, don't waste time investigating, just exonerate the brown people  WatsonT   Jun-23-11 08:49 AM   #69 
  - Law enforcement shouldn't speculate  SpankMe   Jun-21-11 04:45 PM   #24 
  - ...they just can't spew enough HATE, can they?  SoapBox   Jun-21-11 05:09 PM   #29 
  - I know him.  Kali   Jun-21-11 05:17 PM   #32 
  - Visited the Monument several times;  greiner3   Jun-21-11 05:48 PM   #34 
  - These allegations are from the Cochise County Sheriff, Larry Dever.  Ptah   Jun-21-11 06:00 PM   #35 
  - These allegations / speculations / musings  KarenS   Jun-21-11 06:31 PM   #38 
     - If he was referring to the Wallow Fire he was wrong.  Ptah   Jun-21-11 07:01 PM   #40 
        - He's weaseling in trying to blame illegal immigrants  Tempest   Jun-22-11 01:15 PM   #61 
  - "Hundreds of square miles of some of the most arid places in the North American continent."  Kali   Jun-21-11 07:37 PM   #49 
  - But it was caused by our insane drug war, immigration and land management policies...  hunter   Jun-21-11 06:27 PM   #37 
  - Well said.  Ptah   Jun-21-11 07:07 PM   #43 
  - true  Kali   Jun-21-11 07:12 PM   #45 
  - Scapegoating - good ol' Right Wing Fascism, add the Propaganda  ShockediSay   Jun-21-11 09:31 PM   #52 
  - So can anyone speculate?  buckrogers1965   Jun-21-11 10:07 PM   #54 
  - You have to speculate that the fire would have been prevented by a more liberal immigration policy.  Lasher   Jun-22-11 12:24 AM   #59 
  - Hello Fellow DUers.  Rosa Menti   Jun-22-11 07:10 AM   #60 
  - Welcome to DU, Rosa!  Hissyspit   Jun-22-11 03:00 PM   #62 
     - Thank you, Hissyspit  Rosa Menti   Jun-22-11 03:53 PM   #64 
  - Maybe a teabagger committed arson to blame it on  The Second Stone   Jun-22-11 03:20 PM   #63 
  - On my stretch of the border (along the Rio Grande)  okasha   Jun-23-11 09:08 AM   #70 

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