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Tue Jun-21-11 03:44 PM
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| 16. Get lots of suspicious fires when the economy gets bad. |
| -Fire was likely started by illegal immigrants, Dever says |
Ptah |
Jun-21-11 03:12 PM |
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"Anything is possible, except for lightning" |
TheWraith |
Jun-21-11 03:14 PM |
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There has been no lightning, or even significant clouds here for many months. |
Ptah |
Jun-21-11 03:17 PM |
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I assumed that, but still, it sounds hysterical. |
TheWraith |
Jun-21-11 03:34 PM |
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And even if it was dry lightning starting the fires |
Yavapai |
Jun-21-11 05:21 PM |
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Is It an Electric Fence? |
AndyTiedye |
Jun-21-11 03:15 PM |
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Don't whiz on the electric fence. |
damntexdem |
Jun-21-11 03:16 PM |
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Even if it was started by an undocumented person, and I do not necessarily accept that it was, |
totodeinhere |
Jun-21-11 03:16 PM |
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Unless they are smuggling undocumented drugs |
benlurkin |
Jun-21-11 03:23 PM |
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It's a bit silly to say that a group of people defined by breaking at least one law |
WatsonT |
Jun-23-11 08:45 AM |
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maybe a Minuteman did it. |
provis99 |
Jun-21-11 03:23 PM |
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Or dropping his Marlboro |
Dogtown |
Jun-21-11 03:28 PM |
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Nah. The piss from his pants would extinguish that fire. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-21-11 10:19 PM |
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This subthread is priceless. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jun-22-11 04:16 PM |
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I am in favor of more liberal immigration laws, but..... |
panader0 |
Jun-21-11 03:27 PM |
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I agree. With more liberal immigration laws, |
Ptah |
Jun-21-11 03:28 PM |
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Exactly--the same goes for the pot laws. |
panader0 |
Jun-21-11 03:37 PM |
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everything still OK for you down there? |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 04:57 PM |
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Um no, haven't you been paying attention? |
WatsonT |
Jun-23-11 08:46 AM |
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Yeah! Those illegals are starting the disastrous forest fires our good legal 'Mericans could be |
Hissyspit |
Jun-21-11 03:32 PM |
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Gee, that's almost as convenient as that other fire. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jun-21-11 03:32 PM |
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Here's the reason! |
KansDem |
Jun-21-11 03:32 PM |
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Get lots of suspicious fires when the economy gets bad. |
Downwinder |
Jun-21-11 03:44 PM |
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Sounds like a reasonable assumption to me |
slackmaster |
Jun-21-11 03:44 PM |
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Yes, I agree that the sheriff made a pretty good case for *this* fire's origin |
Ptah |
Jun-21-11 04:02 PM |
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What is Arizona Border Trash? |
Springer9 |
Jun-21-11 04:02 PM |
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that's disgusting. This has got to stop. We need to stop the drug war & have a sane immigration |
wordpix |
Jun-21-11 05:07 PM |
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How old are these photos? When exactly were they taken? |
SoapBox |
Jun-21-11 05:13 PM |
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Well this is anecdotal, and I'm sure totally unrelated but |
Springer9 |
Jun-21-11 07:55 PM |
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I think I know that van! |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 05:14 PM |
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Im not seeing many who claim its impossible but I am seeing many asking |
cstanleytech |
Jun-21-11 04:16 PM |
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I am generally a big defender of immigrants (do a search) |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 05:02 PM |
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Actually thats not evidence but rather an opinion you are offering but |
cstanleytech |
Jun-21-11 06:55 PM |
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no burn/smokey the bear for 50 years |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 07:03 PM |
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Ah in other words the same mistakes they made with yellowstone. |
cstanleytech |
Jun-21-11 07:12 PM |
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not really familiar with Yellowstone |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 07:20 PM |
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It was a nationwide mistake. |
Ptah |
Jun-21-11 07:22 PM |
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Are you sure it wasn't the unions? Or married gay couples? Or Michael Moore? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jun-21-11 09:36 PM |
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Absolutely. |
KamaAina |
Jun-22-11 03:57 PM |
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A large percentage of fires around here come from people target shooting in the woods |
nichomachus |
Jun-21-11 04:14 PM |
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Use a lot of tracers, do they? |
Lasher |
Jun-21-11 11:53 PM |
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Cool. Don't waste time investigating, just blame the brown people. |
jtuck004 |
Jun-21-11 04:27 PM |
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+1 |
alstephenson |
Jun-21-11 04:32 PM |
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I think in this case the speculation is pretty well grounded. |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 05:07 PM |
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Speculation...like when people who used to live here speculated that black |
jtuck004 |
Jun-21-11 06:25 PM |
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um, do you have any clue what the geography of the area is? |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 07:07 PM |
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Oh, it's the geography. I thought for a time it was people assuming |
jtuck004 |
Jun-21-11 07:35 PM |
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Look, you are snarking at the wrong person |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 07:53 PM |
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People are jumping to conclusions with no evidence, just speculation |
jtuck004 |
Jun-21-11 10:10 PM |
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Dupe |
jtuck004 |
Jun-21-11 10:10 PM |
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Or conversely, don't waste time investigating, just exonerate the brown people |
WatsonT |
Jun-23-11 08:49 AM |
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Law enforcement shouldn't speculate |
SpankMe |
Jun-21-11 04:45 PM |
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...they just can't spew enough HATE, can they? |
SoapBox |
Jun-21-11 05:09 PM |
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I know him. |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 05:17 PM |
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Visited the Monument several times; |
greiner3 |
Jun-21-11 05:48 PM |
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These allegations are from the Cochise County Sheriff, Larry Dever. |
Ptah |
Jun-21-11 06:00 PM |
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These allegations / speculations / musings |
KarenS |
Jun-21-11 06:31 PM |
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If he was referring to the Wallow Fire he was wrong. |
Ptah |
Jun-21-11 07:01 PM |
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He's weaseling in trying to blame illegal immigrants |
Tempest |
Jun-22-11 01:15 PM |
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"Hundreds of square miles of some of the most arid places in the North American continent." |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 07:37 PM |
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But it was caused by our insane drug war, immigration and land management policies... |
hunter |
Jun-21-11 06:27 PM |
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Well said. |
Ptah |
Jun-21-11 07:07 PM |
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true |
Kali |
Jun-21-11 07:12 PM |
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Scapegoating - good ol' Right Wing Fascism, add the Propaganda |
ShockediSay |
Jun-21-11 09:31 PM |
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So can anyone speculate? |
buckrogers1965 |
Jun-21-11 10:07 PM |
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You have to speculate that the fire would have been prevented by a more liberal immigration policy. |
Lasher |
Jun-22-11 12:24 AM |
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Hello Fellow DUers. |
Rosa Menti |
Jun-22-11 07:10 AM |
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Welcome to DU, Rosa! |
Hissyspit |
Jun-22-11 03:00 PM |
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Thank you, Hissyspit |
Rosa Menti |
Jun-22-11 03:53 PM |
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Maybe a teabagger committed arson to blame it on |
The Second Stone |
Jun-22-11 03:20 PM |
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On my stretch of the border (along the Rio Grande) |
okasha |
Jun-23-11 09:08 AM |
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