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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 05:34 PM
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Under an Arizona Plan, Smokers and the Obese Would Pay Medicaid Fee
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"Arizona, like many other states, says it is no longer able to finance its Medicaid program adequately. As part of a plan to cut costs, the state has proposed imposing a $50 fee on childless adults on Medicaid who are either obese or who smoke. In Arizona, almost half of all Medicaid recipients smoke; while the number of obese people is unclear, about one in four Arizonans is overweight, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The state’s plan must ultimately be approved by the federal government. Monica Coury, spokeswoman for Arizona’s Medicaid program, discusses."

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  -Under an Arizona Plan, Smokers and the Obese Would Pay Medicaid Fee boppers  May-31-11 05:34 PM   #0 
  - I think it is a good idea to encourage people to adopt healthier lifestyles.  individual rights   May-31-11 05:38 PM   #1 
  - Encouraging people to be healthy is NOT the same thing as discriminating against them...  Tx4obama   May-31-11 05:55 PM   #5 
     - Smoking and an unhealthy diet drive up the costs of health care.  individual rights   May-31-11 06:11 PM   #9 
     - so does driving a car.  provis99   May-31-11 07:14 PM   #14 
     - That one is already covered...  individual rights   May-31-11 07:35 PM   #18 
        - no, we need to charge more for ALL cars.  provis99   May-31-11 07:38 PM   #19 
           - Yes, I agree.  Tx4obama   May-31-11 08:46 PM   #24 
     - It has been - just another issue where America doesn't pay attention  saras   Jun-01-11 12:40 AM   #30 
     - That's like saying don't charge teens more for auto insurance.  Courtesy Flush   May-31-11 06:38 PM   #13 
     - I assume you are opposed to all "sin" taxes then?  WatsonT   Jun-01-11 09:24 PM   #43 
  - For the "obese"...which flabby T.HATERbagger gets to set the limits?  SoapBox   May-31-11 05:47 PM   #2 
  - Arizona: Building bridges back to the 19th Century every day n/t  BulletproofLandshark   May-31-11 05:49 PM   #3 
  - ^^^^^ ***** 5-star answer  Sparky 1   May-31-11 06:20 PM   #11 
  - Just childless?  LiberalFighter   May-31-11 05:49 PM   #4 
  - Wow, I missed that on first read.  boppers   May-31-11 06:01 PM   #6 
  - That doesn't seem legal.  MaineDem   May-31-11 06:31 PM   #12 
  - That's actually the only bit that is backed by data. Childless Medicare recipients  Robb   Jun-01-11 07:22 AM   #34 
  - ummm  shanti   May-31-11 06:05 PM   #7 
  - Smoke ANYTHING, you damn hippie!  JustABozoOnThisBus   Jun-01-11 05:46 AM   #31 
     - hee!  shanti   Jun-01-11 04:59 PM   #41 
  - There are lot of risks out there, and it is silly to limit these to just those they can see.  jtuck004   May-31-11 06:09 PM   #8 
  - "Where is the data that supports cost-saving"?  boppers   May-31-11 06:19 PM   #10 
     - I would agree with this question ...  mntleo2   May-31-11 07:24 PM   #16 
     - Do I need to type slower? You know that's not what I wrote.  jtuck004   May-31-11 08:18 PM   #21 
  - Illegal discrimination: against the CHILDLESS. Fuck those bastards.  kestrel91316   May-31-11 07:16 PM   #15 
  - When are we gonna tax the skinny alcoholics?  Uben   May-31-11 07:34 PM   #17 
  - So by that logic...  RoccoR5955   May-31-11 08:12 PM   #20 
  - they KNOW that banning such activities is unconstitutional,  alp227   May-31-11 08:20 PM   #22 
  - This is contrary to the insurance model  PSPS   May-31-11 08:26 PM   #23 
  - This.  Robb   Jun-01-11 07:17 AM   #33 
  - Smoking is a choice - so is drinking & unprotected sex. Some obesity  24601   May-31-11 08:48 PM   #25 
  - My daughter, who is on Medicaid, has a weight problem - but it's not because she eats too much  jillan   May-31-11 08:51 PM   #26 
  - this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of  wordpix   May-31-11 09:00 PM   #27 
  - Smoking and Obesity huh...  mr_smith007   May-31-11 10:55 PM   #28 
  - what is obese?  buckrogers1965   May-31-11 11:24 PM   #29 
  - WTF!!! What does being childless have to do with health care costs?  Thor_MN   Jun-01-11 06:52 AM   #32 
  - It's politically unpopular to take health care away from the kiddies  KamaAina   Jun-01-11 01:32 PM   #36 
     - This part is mere statistics.  Robb   Jun-01-11 03:02 PM   #40 
  - This is no different than taxing cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, etc.  ItNerd4life   Jun-01-11 01:09 PM   #35 
  - It's weird how many people support extra taxes on cokes and other snack items  WatsonT   Jun-01-11 01:56 PM   #37 
  - Meth makes people very skinny n/t  Evergreen Emerald   Jun-01-11 01:59 PM   #38 
  - They Would Probably Use Body Mass Index (BMI) to Determine Who is "Obese"  AndyTiedye   Jun-01-11 03:00 PM   #39 
  - I don't see a problem with this at all.  LetTimmySmoke   Jun-01-11 09:09 PM   #42 
  - Someone somewhere proposed an estate tax to cover medicare/caid expenses  WatsonT   Jun-01-11 09:25 PM   #44 
 

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