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34. Go Bernie!
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  -Single-Payer-Medicare-for-All Legislation Introduced in Senate & House: Bernie Sanders/Jim McDermott kpete  May-10-11 02:12 PM   #0 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-10-11 02:15 PM   #1 
  - Sanders offered this as an amendment to the HCR bill, only to withdraw it without a vote being taken  Freddie Stubbs   May-10-11 02:26 PM   #2 
  - I don't understand. What's the purpose of Sanders doing that? n/t  shcrane71   May-10-11 04:01 PM   #29 
  - We need a high quality universal health care system and this bill establishes one.  Better Believe It   May-10-11 05:48 PM   #42 
  - Yes, you are right. I was deeply  iwishiwas   May-11-11 08:47 AM   #93 
     - I'm disappointed by  Plucketeer   May-11-11 11:29 AM   #97 
     - Congress was free to pass that bill, but chose not to  Freddie Stubbs   May-11-11 11:42 AM   #98 
        - Sure, a Democratic Congress is free to throw the head ot the Democratic Party under the bus  No Elephants   May-12-11 03:55 AM   #104 
           - How would that have thrown President Obama under the bus?  Freddie Stubbs   May-12-11 08:38 AM   #111 
              - One, Obama had campaigned against single payer. Two, he had made deals. Pls. see Reply 109.  No Elephants   May-12-11 08:51 AM   #112 
                 - He campaign called for a public option, but Congress sent him a bill without it  Freddie Stubbs   May-12-11 08:56 AM   #113 
                    - ? Seems as though you read only the first sentence of Reply 112 and none of Reply 109.  No Elephants   May-12-11 10:50 AM   #114 
  - Let the right spend its billions defeating healthcare.Just keep introducing it.The people want it  bjobotts   May-10-11 05:48 PM   #43 
  - Yes yes yes! Brilliant! Drain the Kochs! heh  SusanaMontana41   May-10-11 08:04 PM   #53 
  - I do not think we could ever drain the Koch brothers.  iwishiwas   May-11-11 08:48 AM   #94 
  - That's a great idea!  Raksha   May-11-11 02:22 AM   #66 
  - It is not necessary to spend money to kill a bill which has no support in the Senate  Freddie Stubbs   May-11-11 07:46 AM   #86 
  - Over 70% of the people wanted the public option. Midterms would seem to show  No Elephants   May-12-11 04:37 AM   #108 
  - Perhaps he wanted to avoid the embarassment of it recieving little or no support.  Freddie Stubbs   May-11-11 07:45 AM   #85 
  - LOL! Perhaps Reid did not want to expose how few Democrats supported it and  No Elephants   May-12-11 03:39 AM   #103 
  - IIRC, he pushed it publically on the floor of the Senate for several hours...  krispos42   May-11-11 08:40 AM   #91 
  - Dupe  No Elephants   May-12-11 04:26 AM   #106 
  - All any DUer can do is speculate why he did it. My theory is in Reply 84.  No Elephants   May-12-11 04:33 AM   #107 
  - And why do you suppose that happened?  No Elephants   May-11-11 03:36 AM   #72 
     - Perhaps he wanted to avoid the embarassment of it recieving little or no support  Freddie Stubbs   May-11-11 07:44 AM   #84 
        - You know better than that. (See Reply 84.) As far as support,  No Elephants   May-12-11 04:21 AM   #105 
  - K&R  patrice   May-10-11 02:27 PM   #3 
  - K&R  DeSwiss   May-10-11 02:28 PM   #4 
  - Thanks for posting this. I bet 90% of the populace doesn't know that  truth2power   May-11-11 10:35 AM   #96 
  - K&R If only it would pass  ileus   May-10-11 02:35 PM   #5 
  - I appreciate the attempt, but...  russspeakeasy   May-10-11 02:47 PM   #6 
  - I appreciate the attempt, but...  AlbertCat   May-10-11 03:46 PM   #26 
     - your point is well taken, my "but" was it's not going to draw attention.  russspeakeasy   May-11-11 01:43 PM   #100 
  - It would serve the public well to have MSM cover who opposes this effort.  glinda   May-10-11 02:48 PM   #7 
  - The MSM opposes this effort. nt  tsuki   May-10-11 03:27 PM   #17 
     - You got that right. n/t  Jefferson23   May-10-11 05:02 PM   #33 
     - I know.  glinda   May-10-11 11:35 PM   #63 
  - K and R for good news!  Kingofalldems   May-10-11 02:50 PM   #8 
  - "American Health Security Act of 2011" .... finally, someone outside the GOP understands titles  SomeGuyInEagan   May-10-11 02:54 PM   #9 
  - My man McDermott. That's why I argue with trashing Democrats. Elect the ones with your values and..  freshwest   May-10-11 02:58 PM   #10 
  - Ben Nelson is a Repuke. I have a hard time voting for him. n/t  SusanaMontana41   May-10-11 08:06 PM   #54 
     - So there is a liberal, progressive GOP in your district you want to have the seat?  freshwest   May-10-11 09:22 PM   #56 
  - Now that the tea bigots are seeing what their gop reps are  Dont call me Shirley   May-10-11 03:00 PM   #11 
  - MEDICARE FOR ALL -- would Obama sign it or veto it ???  defendandprotect   May-10-11 03:12 PM   #12 
  - won't make it past the repuke majority in the house.  Roland99   May-10-11 03:23 PM   #15 
  - Bring it up every session of Congress, force them to go on record against it  kestrel91316   May-10-11 03:31 PM   #20 
  - Exactly. Make them go on record.  hobbit709   May-10-11 05:08 PM   #36 
  - It is how it has to be done. We then get to know who needs to go. It will take a long time  harun   May-10-11 09:24 PM   #57 
  - It won't even move in the Senate. The bill has zero cosponsors  Freddie Stubbs   May-11-11 07:47 AM   #87 
  - He would sign it. But it won't get brought up at all in the House. . . n/t  annabanana   May-10-11 03:30 PM   #19 
  - Veto - he had 59 Senate votes for Medicare buy-in for all  MannyGoldstein   May-10-11 10:58 PM   #61 
  - Not to mention his deal with (I'm guessing) Daschle.  No Elephants   May-12-11 05:08 AM   #109 
  - Good question. n/t  Shining Jack   May-11-11 06:33 AM   #82 
  - K&R  raouldukelives   May-10-11 03:18 PM   #13 
  - hellz yeah!!  Roland99   May-10-11 03:23 PM   #14 
  - Way to go Bernie. Come on everyone, he's a Democrat ...  aggiesal   May-10-11 03:25 PM   #16 
  - Oh, no -- leave Bernie where he is -- except we should have him run for President in 2012 -- !!!  defendandprotect   May-10-11 03:53 PM   #27 
  - Yeah, leave him where he's at.  Enthusiast   May-10-11 04:36 PM   #31 
     - You got it . . . !!!  defendandprotect   May-10-11 05:37 PM   #38 
  - When he ran for local office, Democrats joined Republicans in opposing him.  No Elephants   May-11-11 03:12 AM   #68 
  - "45,000... a year die because they delay seeking care" !!  FailureToCommunicate   May-10-11 03:29 PM   #18 
  - Sad, really sad.  Tigress DEM   May-10-11 06:25 PM   #47 
  - We can dream...  drm604   May-10-11 03:32 PM   #21 
  - This is what happens when Dems and Indies work together!  KansDem   May-10-11 03:36 PM   #22 
  - Sanders is not a typical Indie. He's a Socialist.  No Elephants   May-11-11 03:19 AM   #69 
  - Think of all the people who would be hired...  fadedrose   May-10-11 03:37 PM   #23 
  - Just to play devil's advocate  thelordofhell   May-10-11 05:44 PM   #41 
     - A lot of those people could still work to administer Medicare  NewJeffCT   May-10-11 06:25 PM   #48 
        - I don't give two shits about CEOs and Boards Of Directors  thelordofhell   May-10-11 07:31 PM   #51 
           - Recommended with gusto!  PearliePoo2   May-10-11 09:01 PM   #55 
  - It will never get to the floor just like the dozens  Cleita   May-10-11 03:38 PM   #24 
  - I wish that we could find some way to get the members of Congress who have  totodeinhere   May-10-11 03:43 PM   #25 
  - I love Bernie!  MasonJar   May-10-11 03:57 PM   #28 
  - HALLE-FUCKIN-LUJEH! Of course, it won't get anywhere but glad to see there is more than one  JohnWxy   May-10-11 04:03 PM   #30 
  - It will get somewhere if the Supreme Court rules against the health insurance industry bill.  Better Believe It   May-10-11 05:38 PM   #39 
  - I hope to heaven you're correct, but I'm not sure.  No Elephants   May-11-11 03:28 AM   #70 
  - What other alternative?  drm604   May-11-11 10:05 AM   #95 
     - Can't expect "sensible?" Oh, Yes, We Can!  No Elephants   May-12-11 05:18 AM   #110 
  - McDermott is not in the Senate.  No Elephants   May-11-11 03:55 AM   #73 
  - Ya gotta love it!  cachukis   May-10-11 04:56 PM   #32 
  - Go Bernie!  Luciferous   May-10-11 05:02 PM   #34 
  - At least he works it. I appreciate it. n/t  Jefferson23   May-10-11 05:04 PM   #35 
  - A litmus test for Democrats?  FreeBillClinton   May-10-11 05:33 PM   #37 
  - This will put both Democrats and Republicans on record...  cascadiance   May-11-11 02:50 AM   #67 
     - Will it? HR 676 did not put anyone on record. Neither did the  No Elephants   May-11-11 03:33 AM   #71 
        - You seem to be one of the few in this thread who remember recent history...  bread_and_roses   May-11-11 08:03 AM   #88 
  - AFL-CIO Labor Movement Backs New Universal Health Care Bill  Better Believe It   May-10-11 05:44 PM   #40 
  - AFL-CIO  mountainlion55   May-10-11 05:59 PM   #44 
  - I read it quickly and saw "twin treasures"  NewJeffCT   May-10-11 06:19 PM   #45 
  - Bernie Saunders for President in 2016? He's an INDEPENDENT.  Tigress DEM   May-10-11 06:23 PM   #46 
  - He's a Socialist who runs as an Independent, much as Murkowski is a Republican who ran as an  No Elephants   May-11-11 04:14 AM   #74 
  - "Medicare for All" Short, sweet, to the point. Easy to understand.  paparush   May-10-11 06:45 PM   #49 
  - They did close ranks--against Medicare for all and against a public option.  No Elephants   May-11-11 04:30 AM   #75 
  - We won't see this till 2012  Countdown_3_2_1   May-10-11 07:17 PM   #50 
  - Why do you think we'll see it in 2012? We've never seen HR 676.  No Elephants   May-11-11 04:39 AM   #76 
  - If this country could justify paying for multiples of military operations at the same time  pacalo   May-10-11 08:00 PM   #52 
  - Q. How could Congress NOT pass affordable health care? A. Years of practice?  No Elephants   May-11-11 04:42 AM   #77 
  - K and R  OwnedByFerrets   May-10-11 09:44 PM   #58 
  - America needs to get competitive with the Socialist Europe  lovuian   May-10-11 10:20 PM   #59 
  - You are correct!  Enthusiast   May-10-11 11:26 PM   #62 
  - Agree, but I also think many nations figured out long ago that they didn't need  No Elephants   May-11-11 04:47 AM   #78 
  - YESSS!  burrowowl   May-10-11 10:24 PM   #60 
  - k&r  Tripod   May-11-11 01:03 AM   #64 
  - Now that would bring America out of the shameful unworthy state it currently finds itself in...  earcandle   May-11-11 01:38 AM   #65 
  - Sadly, I think this well get as far as HR 676 got, but good for Sanders & McDermott for keeping the  No Elephants   May-11-11 05:05 AM   #79 
  - Sen. Bernie Sanders is a patriot.  Hubert Flottz   May-11-11 05:28 AM   #80 
  - regarding "massive private insurance lay-offs"  djean111   May-11-11 06:22 AM   #81 
  - k&r  TheUnspeakable   May-11-11 07:28 AM   #83 
  - K&R nt  TBF   May-11-11 08:16 AM   #89 
  - How dare law-makers try to improve the lives of people through laws!!  Deep13   May-11-11 08:17 AM   #90 
  - It is the right thing to do... to try, even if its passage is delayed for many, many years.  Maineman   May-11-11 08:45 AM   #92 
  - wouldn't it be nice if Dems pulled out all the stops to pass this good, cost effective policy, that  yurbud   May-11-11 12:36 PM   #99 
  - Reid, Pelosi and Obama have all issued statements pledging their support (link included)  Dr Fate   May-11-11 02:09 PM   #101 
  - kick  Douglas Carpenter   May-12-11 03:19 AM   #102 
  - Kicked but too late to recommend.  Uncle Joe   May-12-11 11:02 AM   #115 
 

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