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Tue May-10-11 03:23 PM
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| 15. won't make it past the repuke majority in the house. |
| -Single-Payer-Medicare-for-All Legislation Introduced in Senate & House: Bernie Sanders/Jim McDermott |
kpete |
May-10-11 02:12 PM |
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Name removed |
May-10-11 02:15 PM |
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Sanders offered this as an amendment to the HCR bill, only to withdraw it without a vote being taken |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-10-11 02:26 PM |
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I don't understand. What's the purpose of Sanders doing that? n/t |
shcrane71 |
May-10-11 04:01 PM |
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We need a high quality universal health care system and this bill establishes one. |
Better Believe It |
May-10-11 05:48 PM |
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Yes, you are right. I was deeply |
iwishiwas |
May-11-11 08:47 AM |
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I'm disappointed by |
Plucketeer |
May-11-11 11:29 AM |
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Congress was free to pass that bill, but chose not to |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-11-11 11:42 AM |
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Sure, a Democratic Congress is free to throw the head ot the Democratic Party under the bus |
No Elephants |
May-12-11 03:55 AM |
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How would that have thrown President Obama under the bus? |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-12-11 08:38 AM |
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One, Obama had campaigned against single payer. Two, he had made deals. Pls. see Reply 109. |
No Elephants |
May-12-11 08:51 AM |
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He campaign called for a public option, but Congress sent him a bill without it |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-12-11 08:56 AM |
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? Seems as though you read only the first sentence of Reply 112 and none of Reply 109. |
No Elephants |
May-12-11 10:50 AM |
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Let the right spend its billions defeating healthcare.Just keep introducing it.The people want it |
bjobotts |
May-10-11 05:48 PM |
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Yes yes yes! Brilliant! Drain the Kochs! heh |
SusanaMontana41 |
May-10-11 08:04 PM |
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I do not think we could ever drain the Koch brothers. |
iwishiwas |
May-11-11 08:48 AM |
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That's a great idea! |
Raksha |
May-11-11 02:22 AM |
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It is not necessary to spend money to kill a bill which has no support in the Senate |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-11-11 07:46 AM |
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Over 70% of the people wanted the public option. Midterms would seem to show |
No Elephants |
May-12-11 04:37 AM |
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Perhaps he wanted to avoid the embarassment of it recieving little or no support. |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-11-11 07:45 AM |
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LOL! Perhaps Reid did not want to expose how few Democrats supported it and |
No Elephants |
May-12-11 03:39 AM |
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IIRC, he pushed it publically on the floor of the Senate for several hours... |
krispos42 |
May-11-11 08:40 AM |
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Dupe |
No Elephants |
May-12-11 04:26 AM |
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All any DUer can do is speculate why he did it. My theory is in Reply 84. |
No Elephants |
May-12-11 04:33 AM |
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And why do you suppose that happened? |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 03:36 AM |
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Perhaps he wanted to avoid the embarassment of it recieving little or no support |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-11-11 07:44 AM |
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You know better than that. (See Reply 84.) As far as support, |
No Elephants |
May-12-11 04:21 AM |
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K&R |
patrice |
May-10-11 02:27 PM |
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K&R |
DeSwiss |
May-10-11 02:28 PM |
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Thanks for posting this. I bet 90% of the populace doesn't know that |
truth2power |
May-11-11 10:35 AM |
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K&R If only it would pass |
ileus |
May-10-11 02:35 PM |
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I appreciate the attempt, but... |
russspeakeasy |
May-10-11 02:47 PM |
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I appreciate the attempt, but... |
AlbertCat |
May-10-11 03:46 PM |
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your point is well taken, my "but" was it's not going to draw attention. |
russspeakeasy |
May-11-11 01:43 PM |
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It would serve the public well to have MSM cover who opposes this effort. |
glinda |
May-10-11 02:48 PM |
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The MSM opposes this effort. nt |
tsuki |
May-10-11 03:27 PM |
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You got that right. n/t |
Jefferson23 |
May-10-11 05:02 PM |
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I know. |
glinda |
May-10-11 11:35 PM |
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K and R for good news! |
Kingofalldems |
May-10-11 02:50 PM |
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"American Health Security Act of 2011" .... finally, someone outside the GOP understands titles |
SomeGuyInEagan |
May-10-11 02:54 PM |
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My man McDermott. That's why I argue with trashing Democrats. Elect the ones with your values and.. |
freshwest |
May-10-11 02:58 PM |
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Ben Nelson is a Repuke. I have a hard time voting for him. n/t |
SusanaMontana41 |
May-10-11 08:06 PM |
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So there is a liberal, progressive GOP in your district you want to have the seat? |
freshwest |
May-10-11 09:22 PM |
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Now that the tea bigots are seeing what their gop reps are |
Dont call me Shirley |
May-10-11 03:00 PM |
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MEDICARE FOR ALL -- would Obama sign it or veto it ??? |
defendandprotect |
May-10-11 03:12 PM |
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won't make it past the repuke majority in the house. |
Roland99 |
May-10-11 03:23 PM |
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Bring it up every session of Congress, force them to go on record against it |
kestrel91316 |
May-10-11 03:31 PM |
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Exactly. Make them go on record. |
hobbit709 |
May-10-11 05:08 PM |
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It is how it has to be done. We then get to know who needs to go. It will take a long time |
harun |
May-10-11 09:24 PM |
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It won't even move in the Senate. The bill has zero cosponsors |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-11-11 07:47 AM |
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He would sign it. But it won't get brought up at all in the House. . . n/t |
annabanana |
May-10-11 03:30 PM |
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Veto - he had 59 Senate votes for Medicare buy-in for all |
MannyGoldstein |
May-10-11 10:58 PM |
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Not to mention his deal with (I'm guessing) Daschle. |
No Elephants |
May-12-11 05:08 AM |
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Good question. n/t |
Shining Jack |
May-11-11 06:33 AM |
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K&R |
raouldukelives |
May-10-11 03:18 PM |
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hellz yeah!! |
Roland99 |
May-10-11 03:23 PM |
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Way to go Bernie. Come on everyone, he's a Democrat ... |
aggiesal |
May-10-11 03:25 PM |
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Oh, no -- leave Bernie where he is -- except we should have him run for President in 2012 -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
May-10-11 03:53 PM |
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Yeah, leave him where he's at. |
Enthusiast |
May-10-11 04:36 PM |
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You got it . . . !!! |
defendandprotect |
May-10-11 05:37 PM |
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When he ran for local office, Democrats joined Republicans in opposing him. |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 03:12 AM |
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"45,000... a year die because they delay seeking care" !! |
FailureToCommunicate |
May-10-11 03:29 PM |
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Sad, really sad. |
Tigress DEM |
May-10-11 06:25 PM |
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We can dream... |
drm604 |
May-10-11 03:32 PM |
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This is what happens when Dems and Indies work together! |
KansDem |
May-10-11 03:36 PM |
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Sanders is not a typical Indie. He's a Socialist. |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 03:19 AM |
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Think of all the people who would be hired... |
fadedrose |
May-10-11 03:37 PM |
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Just to play devil's advocate |
thelordofhell |
May-10-11 05:44 PM |
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A lot of those people could still work to administer Medicare |
NewJeffCT |
May-10-11 06:25 PM |
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I don't give two shits about CEOs and Boards Of Directors |
thelordofhell |
May-10-11 07:31 PM |
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Recommended with gusto! |
PearliePoo2 |
May-10-11 09:01 PM |
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It will never get to the floor just like the dozens |
Cleita |
May-10-11 03:38 PM |
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I wish that we could find some way to get the members of Congress who have |
totodeinhere |
May-10-11 03:43 PM |
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I love Bernie! |
MasonJar |
May-10-11 03:57 PM |
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HALLE-FUCKIN-LUJEH! Of course, it won't get anywhere but glad to see there is more than one |
JohnWxy |
May-10-11 04:03 PM |
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It will get somewhere if the Supreme Court rules against the health insurance industry bill. |
Better Believe It |
May-10-11 05:38 PM |
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I hope to heaven you're correct, but I'm not sure. |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 03:28 AM |
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What other alternative? |
drm604 |
May-11-11 10:05 AM |
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Can't expect "sensible?" Oh, Yes, We Can! |
No Elephants |
May-12-11 05:18 AM |
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McDermott is not in the Senate. |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 03:55 AM |
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Ya gotta love it! |
cachukis |
May-10-11 04:56 PM |
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Go Bernie! |
Luciferous |
May-10-11 05:02 PM |
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At least he works it. I appreciate it. n/t |
Jefferson23 |
May-10-11 05:04 PM |
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A litmus test for Democrats? |
FreeBillClinton |
May-10-11 05:33 PM |
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This will put both Democrats and Republicans on record... |
cascadiance |
May-11-11 02:50 AM |
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Will it? HR 676 did not put anyone on record. Neither did the |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 03:33 AM |
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You seem to be one of the few in this thread who remember recent history... |
bread_and_roses |
May-11-11 08:03 AM |
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AFL-CIO Labor Movement Backs New Universal Health Care Bill |
Better Believe It |
May-10-11 05:44 PM |
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AFL-CIO |
mountainlion55 |
May-10-11 05:59 PM |
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I read it quickly and saw "twin treasures" |
NewJeffCT |
May-10-11 06:19 PM |
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Bernie Saunders for President in 2016? He's an INDEPENDENT. |
Tigress DEM |
May-10-11 06:23 PM |
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He's a Socialist who runs as an Independent, much as Murkowski is a Republican who ran as an |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 04:14 AM |
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"Medicare for All" Short, sweet, to the point. Easy to understand. |
paparush |
May-10-11 06:45 PM |
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They did close ranks--against Medicare for all and against a public option. |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 04:30 AM |
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We won't see this till 2012 |
Countdown_3_2_1 |
May-10-11 07:17 PM |
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Why do you think we'll see it in 2012? We've never seen HR 676. |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 04:39 AM |
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If this country could justify paying for multiples of military operations at the same time |
pacalo |
May-10-11 08:00 PM |
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Q. How could Congress NOT pass affordable health care? A. Years of practice? |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 04:42 AM |
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K and R |
OwnedByFerrets |
May-10-11 09:44 PM |
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America needs to get competitive with the Socialist Europe |
lovuian |
May-10-11 10:20 PM |
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You are correct! |
Enthusiast |
May-10-11 11:26 PM |
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Agree, but I also think many nations figured out long ago that they didn't need |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 04:47 AM |
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YESSS! |
burrowowl |
May-10-11 10:24 PM |
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k&r |
Tripod |
May-11-11 01:03 AM |
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Now that would bring America out of the shameful unworthy state it currently finds itself in... |
earcandle |
May-11-11 01:38 AM |
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Sadly, I think this well get as far as HR 676 got, but good for Sanders & McDermott for keeping the |
No Elephants |
May-11-11 05:05 AM |
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Sen. Bernie Sanders is a patriot. |
Hubert Flottz |
May-11-11 05:28 AM |
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regarding "massive private insurance lay-offs" |
djean111 |
May-11-11 06:22 AM |
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k&r |
TheUnspeakable |
May-11-11 07:28 AM |
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K&R nt |
TBF |
May-11-11 08:16 AM |
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How dare law-makers try to improve the lives of people through laws!! |
Deep13 |
May-11-11 08:17 AM |
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It is the right thing to do... to try, even if its passage is delayed for many, many years. |
Maineman |
May-11-11 08:45 AM |
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wouldn't it be nice if Dems pulled out all the stops to pass this good, cost effective policy, that |
yurbud |
May-11-11 12:36 PM |
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Reid, Pelosi and Obama have all issued statements pledging their support (link included) |
Dr Fate |
May-11-11 02:09 PM |
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kick |
Douglas Carpenter |
May-12-11 03:19 AM |
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Kicked but too late to recommend. |
Uncle Joe |
May-12-11 11:02 AM |
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