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commonsensedem Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:26 AM
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33. Explaination
Just fyi, long time lurker, never written before. I live in Ma. and have been following this issue for awhile, it has been a huge issue among those involved in municipal politics. This is NOT Winsconsin like at all. First it does not allow municipalities to unilaterally strip unions of all bargainign rights. Second it does not affect public employees who do not work for cities and towns.

What it does do: It allows municipalities to unilaterally move their union from private insurance to the same exact insurance state employees receive. The thought behind it is if the state has more people to insure the lower the costs among its members, including cities and towns. Most communities will save hundreds of thousands of dollars. Believe it or not the idea for doing this came from the same thought process that brought together unions: together they can bargain lower rates and better services for their membership, seprated, smaller unions within small towns are at the mercy of insurance companies.
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  -House votes to restrict unions SecularMotion  Apr-27-11 05:28 AM   #0 
  - Isn't Mass. the home of the bluedogs?  inademv   Apr-27-11 05:31 AM   #1 
  - They don't watch Maddow, do they?  aquart   Apr-27-11 05:36 AM   #4 
  - No it is not  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-27-11 12:13 PM   #47 
  - fuck the dems in Mass. Fuckers.  roguevalley   Apr-27-11 04:36 PM   #53 
     - What you and your weiner dog said!  Admiral Loinpresser   Apr-28-11 06:48 AM   #58 
        - bring him on! I can only imagine he looks awesome. :-D  roguevalley   Apr-28-11 09:26 PM   #64 
           - His name is Chalupa  Admiral Loinpresser   Apr-29-11 02:40 PM   #66 
  - At some point, labor just has to say enough and support other parties.  HereSince1628   Apr-27-11 05:32 AM   #2 
  - I think you are right.  iwishiwas   Apr-27-11 05:49 AM   #5 
  - I think that we need to have massive nation wide/crippling strikes.  HillbillyBob   Apr-27-11 06:10 AM   #8 
  - What a stupid idea - agree with me or I'll break my oath of office.  24601   Apr-27-11 07:09 PM   #57 
     - Which of course isn't what was said at all  Occulus   Apr-28-11 10:51 AM   #62 
  - at some point Labor has to realize that the electoral system has failed us  bread_and_roses   Apr-27-11 07:02 AM   #10 
     - most union folk I work with vote republican  pasto76   Apr-27-11 09:36 AM   #29 
  - Why would Mass Dems commit mass suicide?  aquart   Apr-27-11 05:34 AM   #3 
  - WTF??  Gman   Apr-27-11 05:58 AM   #6 
  - +1  Zorra   Apr-27-11 09:25 AM   #27 
  - Wow, we American citizens are losing most of our basic freedoms  fasttense   Apr-27-11 06:07 AM   #7 
  - from zero to crazy in 6 lines of text  Teaser   Apr-27-11 07:05 AM   #11 
     - Actually been going on since at least the 1850s.  plumbob   Apr-27-11 07:24 AM   #13 
     - Your grandfather sounds like an inspiring and heroic man  primavera   Apr-27-11 07:29 AM   #15 
        - I am! After his oldest son and daughter in law were killed in an auto  plumbob   Apr-27-11 07:43 AM   #18 
           - What an incredible story  PatSeg   Apr-27-11 09:38 AM   #31 
           - A great man!  bitchkitty   Apr-27-11 11:58 AM   #46 
     - A lot of things happening lately would have seemed crazy ten years ago.  fasttense   Apr-27-11 09:40 AM   #32 
  - If this act of betrayal fails to energize the Labor movement to begin building an alternative  Citizen Worker   Apr-27-11 06:32 AM   #9 
  - I guess that Wisconsin governor isn't so bad. More Dems seem to be acting like him..  Township75   Apr-27-11 07:14 AM   #12 
  - MASSACHUSETTS?!  primavera   Apr-27-11 07:24 AM   #14 
  - Texas has no unions for public employees  catrose   Apr-27-11 07:38 AM   #17 
     - Wrong.  rayofreason   Apr-27-11 12:31 PM   #48 
  - What the USA needs is a good old fashioned  nonperson   Apr-27-11 07:31 AM   #16 
  - I live in Mass  border_town   Apr-27-11 07:47 AM   #19 
  - Then call your representative...  primavera   Apr-27-11 07:56 AM   #22 
  - These are NOT Democrats, they are Blue Dog Republican plants.  Welibs   Apr-27-11 07:53 AM   #20 
  - This still ahs to get  border_town   Apr-27-11 08:14 AM   #24 
     - Deval Patrick led the charge google it from January. n/t  seaglass   Apr-27-11 03:31 PM   #52 
  - We desperately need to build a viable  dotymed   Apr-27-11 07:55 AM   #21 
  - Thank you!  primavera   Apr-27-11 07:58 AM   #23 
     - + 1,000 n/t  Admiral Loinpresser   Apr-28-11 06:52 AM   #59 
  - Stabbed in the back by our own party. Time to take away THEIR health care. nt  mistertrickster   Apr-27-11 08:45 AM   #25 
  - I'm getting the feeling from his wikipedia file that he is crooked.  LiberalFighter   Apr-27-11 09:04 AM   #26 
  - is it a trap?  Snoutport   Apr-27-11 09:28 AM   #28 
  - Why? Is this better than negotiating?  One_Life_To_Give   Apr-27-11 09:36 AM   #30 
  - Explaination  commonsensedem   Apr-27-11 10:26 AM   #33 
  - In my 30yr career my municipal health plan changed many times....  Historic NY   Apr-27-11 10:34 AM   #34 
  - House votes to restrict unions  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-27-11 11:52 AM   #35 
  - FUCKERS!  meegbear   Apr-27-11 11:52 AM   #36 
  - Like the UK Labor Party, the Democratic Party...  Deep13   Apr-27-11 11:52 AM   #37 
  - Yeah. Remind me again - who do the Dems represent anymore?  slay   Apr-27-11 11:52 AM   #41 
     - A slightly less scary group of wealthy backers than the Rs have. nt  Deep13   Apr-27-11 11:52 AM   #44 
        - I'd agree with that assesment  slay   Apr-27-11 11:56 AM   #45 
  - Here's hoping the unions vote to restrict endorsements, campaign funding and volunteers.  Brickbat   Apr-27-11 11:52 AM   #38 
  - The Union needs to go after every one of those  Autumn   Apr-27-11 11:52 AM   #39 
  - Unfortunately this is essentially implied by Romneycare (nt)  Recursion   Apr-27-11 11:52 AM   #40 
  - Disaster.  neoralme   Apr-27-11 11:52 AM   #42 
  - Can you clarify your subject line to state this is MA House & not US?  hlthe2b   Apr-27-11 11:52 AM   #43 
  - Sorry, but per LBN rules you must use the exact headline of the article  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-27-11 01:45 PM   #49 
     - You can add a clarification in parentheses after the title  hlthe2b   Apr-27-11 01:57 PM   #50 
  - Oops--too late on this one.  Kingofalldems   Apr-27-11 03:15 PM   #51 
  - MA has 2.8m workers, 414k union mbrs 58% of which are public employees. nt  jody   Apr-27-11 05:49 PM   #54 
  - So why aren't they descending on the capitol by the thousands like in WI?  Freddie Stubbs   Apr-28-11 08:30 AM   #60 
     - Could it be that 2.6M private non-union workers don't care about 242K public employee union mbrs?  jody   Apr-28-11 03:59 PM   #63 
  - Strike!  mountainlion55   Apr-27-11 05:57 PM   #55 
  - This sign would play nicely on the streets of MA ...  Bozita   Apr-27-11 05:59 PM   #56 
  - I'm. Speechless.  Odin2005   Apr-28-11 08:40 AM   #61 
  - Bipartisan effort across the country to destroy unions....  midnight   Apr-28-11 09:53 PM   #65 
  - Single payer anyone?  4dsc   Apr-29-11 02:47 PM   #67 
 

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