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Mon Apr-25-11 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #127 |
| 131. Gee wiz... everything must be so fuzzy with such lack of reading and comprehension. |
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... how does the US constitution address the role of the US government in regards to providing fast and fair trials without being unable to subject people to cruel and unusual punishment. You know that being the main point of my post and stuff.
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| -WikiLeaks: Guantanamo Bay Secrets Revealed (1,000s of Pages From Ten Years) |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 07:34 PM |
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Why isn't it closed now? |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Apr-24-11 08:35 PM |
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O is controversy-averse. The GOP may call him names. nt |
davidwparker |
Apr-24-11 08:43 PM |
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I am of the belief he has not |
cstanleytech |
Apr-24-11 10:48 PM |
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then - i guess, "doing the right thing" has fallen below "political expediency", |
marasinghe |
Apr-25-11 12:46 AM |
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That's been happening since day one, |
tavalon |
Apr-25-11 11:16 AM |
#94 |
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Has it been any other way this current century? |
Cherchez la Femme |
Apr-25-11 05:25 PM |
#124 |
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Don't lose "hope" okay? |
DeSwiss |
Apr-24-11 09:11 PM |
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interesting quote there |
BetsysGhost |
Apr-25-11 11:35 AM |
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Ban on U.S. trials for Guantanamo prisoners passes House again-Politico 12/17/10 |
MilesColtrane |
Apr-24-11 10:11 PM |
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There's a thought |
caraher |
Apr-24-11 10:25 PM |
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one thing to keep in mind |
orangeapple |
Apr-24-11 10:55 PM |
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How many of those WERE innocent, but became terrorists |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-24-11 11:25 PM |
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I don't know, you don't know |
orangeapple |
Apr-24-11 11:51 PM |
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On what basis do you continue to imprison an innocent person? |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 12:58 AM |
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POWs can be held for the duration of the conflict |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 10:19 AM |
#79 |
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These people weren't even combatants. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 10:49 AM |
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What do you do about the ones who are AQ? |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 11:41 AM |
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You try them and take the consequences |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 12:06 PM |
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try them for what? |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 12:58 PM |
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If they can't be charged with a crime, they have to be released. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 01:10 PM |
#102 |
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Do you realize that you're using the same excuse that the MIC |
truth2power |
Apr-25-11 04:25 PM |
#118 |
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Hey, I was against that stupid war too! |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 04:34 PM |
#119 |
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Oh yes, "I was against XXX before I was for XXX" argument. |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 04:50 PM |
#122 |
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I'm not John Kerry |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 05:07 PM |
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Thanks for proving my point. |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 05:28 PM |
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why are you ducking the question? |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 05:38 PM |
#126 |
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Ask a question and you will get an answer |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 06:03 PM |
#129 |
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here's my question |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 07:59 PM |
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First of all... |
truth2power |
Apr-25-11 05:55 PM |
#128 |
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That's bullshit because they HAVEN'T RECEIVED POW STATUS or PROTECTION UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS. |
The Stranger |
Apr-25-11 06:04 PM |
#130 |
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Then you hold public trials so the people know |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-25-11 06:48 PM |
#133 |
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So TRY them. If guilty, imprison them, legally. |
plumbob |
Apr-25-11 12:08 AM |
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Well, what a surprise. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 06:52 AM |
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Yes it has, hasn't it? From the time Rummy was comparing |
truth2power |
Apr-25-11 03:45 PM |
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Dupe |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 07:00 AM |
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BBC: Of 779 detainees at Guantanamo, all but 220 were innocent or low-level guerrillas | |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 07:00 AM |
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I didn't have the numbers handy in my post above, Hissy, .. |
truth2power |
Apr-25-11 06:12 PM |
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HELLO! "according to a new intelligence assessment released by the Director of National Intelligence |
L. Coyote |
Apr-25-11 10:34 AM |
#80 |
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Is that real terrorism, or speaking out against US policies? |
Oak2004 |
Apr-25-11 11:29 AM |
#95 |
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Jesus, the naivete in this post defies description and is maddening |
coalition_unwilling |
Apr-25-11 04:39 PM |
#120 |
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He had plenty of time to act before that. |
Capitalocracy |
Apr-24-11 10:45 PM |
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The problem is |
cstanleytech |
Apr-24-11 10:52 PM |
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I'm sure it's Obama's opinion. |
Capitalocracy |
Apr-24-11 10:57 PM |
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I voted for Obama to see it closed |
lovuian |
Apr-24-11 11:35 PM |
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Because the rulers do not know how to govern without using torture. |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-25-11 02:43 AM |
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W/Cheney/Rumsfeld needed the farce of all this to keep myth of 9/11 going ... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-25-11 11:05 AM |
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Why isn't it closed now? |
AlbertCat |
Apr-25-11 08:53 AM |
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So.... |
underpants |
Apr-24-11 08:42 PM |
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I don't know about this |
PSPS |
Apr-24-11 08:47 PM |
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There is just no way to paint a happy face on this story, but they sure did their best |
L. Coyote |
Apr-25-11 10:38 AM |
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WaPo Link: |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 08:51 PM |
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wikileaks: The Guantanamo Files |
cal04 |
Apr-24-11 09:05 PM |
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New York Times Link "Timeline of Gitmo Detainees," More |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 09:13 PM |
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wikileaks: If you read Wikileaks' 'Gitmo Files' please do so with extra caution. 'Confessions' made |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 09:27 PM |
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These things |
TacticalPeek |
Apr-24-11 09:39 PM |
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McClatchy gets headline right: "WikiLeaks: Secret Guantanamo files show U.S. disarray" |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 09:46 PM |
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Delete - Duplicate |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 09:46 PM |
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Guardian: What are the Guantánamo Bay files? Understanding the prisoner dossiers |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 09:59 PM |
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"al-Qaida, the Taliban or other terror groups" |
ronnie624 |
Apr-25-11 01:23 PM |
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Guardian gets headline right: "Guantánamo Bay files: Caught in the wrong place at the wrong time" |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 10:04 PM |
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WikLeaks: "This detainee was tortured in 3 different countries, held in CIA site but US gov file... |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 10:20 PM |
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WikiLeaks: "Australia: Guantanamo file for David Hicks released" |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 10:24 PM |
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. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 12:46 AM |
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Failure to prosecute is also illegal. |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-25-11 02:47 AM |
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Does anyone remember when Rumsfeld called them "the worst of the worst"?.. |
truth2power |
Apr-24-11 10:35 PM |
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Do you remember the minute by minute media coverage |
EFerrari |
Apr-24-11 10:41 PM |
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Not just him. Rumsfeld: Hides War Crimes - Free. WikiLeaker: Reveals War Crimes - |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 10:41 PM |
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"imprisoning more than 150 totally innocent people" = WAR CRIMES! |
L. Coyote |
Apr-24-11 10:53 PM |
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This is a fascinating release. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 11:03 PM |
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Raw Story: 7 Shocking Gitmo Revelations |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 11:19 PM |
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All this money all the lies the torture was just a total farce |
lovuian |
Apr-24-11 11:39 PM |
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I think most people believed it was a total farce from the beginning. |
polly7 |
Apr-25-11 11:15 AM |
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Reenacting 9/11 with origami art? |
Capitalocracy |
Apr-25-11 12:54 AM |
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Obviously, we TORTURED these people because we had no evidende against them ... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-25-11 01:49 AM |
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And just yesterday I wondered what our leaders had done to shut |
jwirr |
Apr-24-11 11:51 PM |
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BBC: "Wikileaks: Many at Guantanamo 'not dangerous'" |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 12:02 AM |
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Seton Hall has been on this for years. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 12:36 AM |
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You have to ask yourself: What is it the pugs and neocons are so very, very afraid of, |
ooglymoogly |
Apr-25-11 12:30 AM |
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It's long past time when we can blame Republicans. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 12:40 AM |
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Exactly what I've been thinking for some time. All that their secrecy does |
truth2power |
Apr-25-11 05:17 AM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Apr-25-11 01:14 PM |
#103 |
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their own crimes being exposed |
librechik |
Apr-25-11 12:30 PM |
#100 |
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don't worry! Obama will close it ANY DAY now. |
Bluebear |
Apr-25-11 12:41 AM |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Apr-25-11 01:33 AM |
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Evidently, we pulled in something like 140,000 + people ... many were basically "bought" -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-25-11 01:46 AM |
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And many were saying this would happen even before the war start, and certainly while it was |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 04:52 AM |
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K&R. nt |
OnyxCollie |
Apr-25-11 02:36 AM |
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Wikileaks is essential to real national security, IMHO. |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-25-11 02:45 AM |
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A bunch of low-level foot soldiers? |
NuclearDem |
Apr-25-11 03:47 AM |
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It's worse than that. Most of these people had nothing to do |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 08:59 AM |
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Exactly, in the class of herding goats in the wrong place at the wrong time, then maybe |
L. Coyote |
Apr-25-11 10:50 AM |
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Wikileaks: Many at Guantanamo 'not dangerous' |
Snoutport |
Apr-25-11 04:26 AM |
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k/r |
defendandprotect |
Apr-25-11 04:26 AM |
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WikiLeaks discloses new details on whereabouts of al-Qaeda leaders on 9/11 |
alp227 |
Apr-25-11 04:27 AM |
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ah......"informants" |
Scottybeamer70 |
Apr-25-11 04:27 AM |
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'US knew Guantanamo detainees were innocent' |
Judi Lynn |
Apr-25-11 05:35 AM |
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Glenn Geenwald: If Bradley Manning did what's accused, he imposed more transparency on the world's |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 06:45 AM |
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Glenn Greenwald: WikiLeaks has generated more newsworthy scoops over the last year than all media ou |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 06:49 AM |
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I wish I could recommend this thread over and over again. |
Solly Mack |
Apr-25-11 07:13 AM |
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K & R |
Raksha |
Apr-25-11 07:20 AM |
#66 |
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K & R |
dipsydoodle |
Apr-25-11 08:11 AM |
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K & R |
Better Believe It |
Apr-25-11 08:46 AM |
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We have always been at war with Eastasia. |
Javaman |
Apr-25-11 08:46 AM |
#69 |
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Another kick! |
tekisui |
Apr-25-11 08:58 AM |
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Does anyone have any idea why the US did this? |
KansDem |
Apr-25-11 09:01 AM |
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Maybe the MIC was running out of enemies and was afraid of being defunded? |
azul |
Apr-25-11 09:31 AM |
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They did it to provide visible evidence to the sheep that there was a real reason to feel fear. |
GliderGuider |
Apr-25-11 09:40 AM |
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del. |
polly7 |
Apr-25-11 11:16 AM |
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BushCo cronies made brazillions off of the War on Terra. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 09:51 AM |
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All of the above. Plus, they did it because they could. |
Auggie |
Apr-25-11 10:05 AM |
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And got away with it scot-free. |
Amonester |
Apr-25-11 10:44 AM |
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Rumsfeld and Cheney are sadists. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 10:53 AM |
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I'm sure they also viewed it as "opportunity" to experiment |
Auggie |
Apr-25-11 01:25 PM |
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Marketing. Doing it made it clear to the enemy and the sheeple that the U.S. |
harun |
Apr-25-11 10:48 AM |
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Locked people in Gitmo? |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 11:59 AM |
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"Geneva rules didn't have this kind of conflict in mind" |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 02:55 PM |
#108 |
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OK, what do you do with captured combatants... |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 03:32 PM |
#110 |
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Maybe you should ask that question to the framers of the US constitution |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 04:03 PM |
#112 |
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If you're going to excoriate people, I think you need to come up with a better idea |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 04:07 PM |
#113 |
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It is not about "what I would do with them" but what the US government can't do |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 04:11 PM |
#114 |
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You can hold POWs until the hostilities cease |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 04:13 PM |
#116 |
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You need to declare a war first before you can detain people as POWs |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 04:22 PM |
#117 |
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How does Geneva Convention |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 05:40 PM |
#127 |
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Gee wiz... everything must be so fuzzy with such lack of reading and comprehension. |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 06:06 PM |
#131 |
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The detainees aren't accused of "crimes" |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 06:51 PM |
#134 |
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Trial balloon. |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 02:50 PM |
#107 |
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Sounds like the perfect place |
JEB |
Apr-25-11 10:19 AM |
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CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION NOW!! |
L. Coyote |
Apr-25-11 10:46 AM |
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Pelosi did squat about Sami al Haj or anything else related to Gitmo. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 11:14 AM |
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K/R |
defendandprotect |
Apr-25-11 11:01 AM |
#88 |
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On the one hand, it's about time this had light shed on it, |
tavalon |
Apr-25-11 11:15 AM |
#92 |
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I remember when the first prisoners were released after several months |
lebkuchen |
Apr-25-11 01:28 PM |
#106 |
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This is such a tough thing ot handle.... |
Corruption Winz |
Apr-25-11 02:56 PM |
#109 |
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Yep. Too bad Congress prevented them from being tried in civilian courts |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 04:12 PM |
#115 |
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K&R |
raouldukelives |
Apr-25-11 04:43 PM |
#121 |
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