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Mon Apr-25-11 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 76. BushCo cronies made brazillions off of the War on Terra. |
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Both here and over there.
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| -WikiLeaks: Guantanamo Bay Secrets Revealed (1,000s of Pages From Ten Years) |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 07:34 PM |
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Why isn't it closed now? |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Apr-24-11 08:35 PM |
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O is controversy-averse. The GOP may call him names. nt |
davidwparker |
Apr-24-11 08:43 PM |
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I am of the belief he has not |
cstanleytech |
Apr-24-11 10:48 PM |
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then - i guess, "doing the right thing" has fallen below "political expediency", |
marasinghe |
Apr-25-11 12:46 AM |
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That's been happening since day one, |
tavalon |
Apr-25-11 11:16 AM |
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Has it been any other way this current century? |
Cherchez la Femme |
Apr-25-11 05:25 PM |
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Don't lose "hope" okay? |
DeSwiss |
Apr-24-11 09:11 PM |
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interesting quote there |
BetsysGhost |
Apr-25-11 11:35 AM |
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Ban on U.S. trials for Guantanamo prisoners passes House again-Politico 12/17/10 |
MilesColtrane |
Apr-24-11 10:11 PM |
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There's a thought |
caraher |
Apr-24-11 10:25 PM |
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one thing to keep in mind |
orangeapple |
Apr-24-11 10:55 PM |
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How many of those WERE innocent, but became terrorists |
RaleighNCDUer |
Apr-24-11 11:25 PM |
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I don't know, you don't know |
orangeapple |
Apr-24-11 11:51 PM |
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On what basis do you continue to imprison an innocent person? |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 12:58 AM |
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POWs can be held for the duration of the conflict |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 10:19 AM |
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These people weren't even combatants. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 10:49 AM |
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What do you do about the ones who are AQ? |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 11:41 AM |
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You try them and take the consequences |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 12:06 PM |
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try them for what? |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 12:58 PM |
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If they can't be charged with a crime, they have to be released. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 01:10 PM |
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Do you realize that you're using the same excuse that the MIC |
truth2power |
Apr-25-11 04:25 PM |
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Hey, I was against that stupid war too! |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 04:34 PM |
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Oh yes, "I was against XXX before I was for XXX" argument. |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 04:50 PM |
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I'm not John Kerry |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 05:07 PM |
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Thanks for proving my point. |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 05:28 PM |
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why are you ducking the question? |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 05:38 PM |
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Ask a question and you will get an answer |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 06:03 PM |
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here's my question |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 07:59 PM |
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First of all... |
truth2power |
Apr-25-11 05:55 PM |
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That's bullshit because they HAVEN'T RECEIVED POW STATUS or PROTECTION UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS. |
The Stranger |
Apr-25-11 06:04 PM |
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Then you hold public trials so the people know |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-25-11 06:48 PM |
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So TRY them. If guilty, imprison them, legally. |
plumbob |
Apr-25-11 12:08 AM |
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Well, what a surprise. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 06:52 AM |
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Yes it has, hasn't it? From the time Rummy was comparing |
truth2power |
Apr-25-11 03:45 PM |
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Dupe |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 07:00 AM |
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BBC: Of 779 detainees at Guantanamo, all but 220 were innocent or low-level guerrillas | |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 07:00 AM |
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I didn't have the numbers handy in my post above, Hissy, .. |
truth2power |
Apr-25-11 06:12 PM |
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HELLO! "according to a new intelligence assessment released by the Director of National Intelligence |
L. Coyote |
Apr-25-11 10:34 AM |
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Is that real terrorism, or speaking out against US policies? |
Oak2004 |
Apr-25-11 11:29 AM |
#95 |
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Jesus, the naivete in this post defies description and is maddening |
coalition_unwilling |
Apr-25-11 04:39 PM |
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He had plenty of time to act before that. |
Capitalocracy |
Apr-24-11 10:45 PM |
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The problem is |
cstanleytech |
Apr-24-11 10:52 PM |
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I'm sure it's Obama's opinion. |
Capitalocracy |
Apr-24-11 10:57 PM |
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I voted for Obama to see it closed |
lovuian |
Apr-24-11 11:35 PM |
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Because the rulers do not know how to govern without using torture. |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-25-11 02:43 AM |
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W/Cheney/Rumsfeld needed the farce of all this to keep myth of 9/11 going ... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-25-11 11:05 AM |
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Why isn't it closed now? |
AlbertCat |
Apr-25-11 08:53 AM |
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So.... |
underpants |
Apr-24-11 08:42 PM |
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I don't know about this |
PSPS |
Apr-24-11 08:47 PM |
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There is just no way to paint a happy face on this story, but they sure did their best |
L. Coyote |
Apr-25-11 10:38 AM |
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WaPo Link: |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 08:51 PM |
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wikileaks: The Guantanamo Files |
cal04 |
Apr-24-11 09:05 PM |
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New York Times Link "Timeline of Gitmo Detainees," More |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 09:13 PM |
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wikileaks: If you read Wikileaks' 'Gitmo Files' please do so with extra caution. 'Confessions' made |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 09:27 PM |
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These things |
TacticalPeek |
Apr-24-11 09:39 PM |
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McClatchy gets headline right: "WikiLeaks: Secret Guantanamo files show U.S. disarray" |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 09:46 PM |
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Delete - Duplicate |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 09:46 PM |
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Guardian: What are the Guantánamo Bay files? Understanding the prisoner dossiers |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 09:59 PM |
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"al-Qaida, the Taliban or other terror groups" |
ronnie624 |
Apr-25-11 01:23 PM |
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Guardian gets headline right: "Guantánamo Bay files: Caught in the wrong place at the wrong time" |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 10:04 PM |
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WikLeaks: "This detainee was tortured in 3 different countries, held in CIA site but US gov file... |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 10:20 PM |
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WikiLeaks: "Australia: Guantanamo file for David Hicks released" |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 10:24 PM |
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. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 12:46 AM |
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Failure to prosecute is also illegal. |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-25-11 02:47 AM |
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Does anyone remember when Rumsfeld called them "the worst of the worst"?.. |
truth2power |
Apr-24-11 10:35 PM |
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Do you remember the minute by minute media coverage |
EFerrari |
Apr-24-11 10:41 PM |
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Not just him. Rumsfeld: Hides War Crimes - Free. WikiLeaker: Reveals War Crimes - |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 10:41 PM |
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"imprisoning more than 150 totally innocent people" = WAR CRIMES! |
L. Coyote |
Apr-24-11 10:53 PM |
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This is a fascinating release. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 11:03 PM |
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Raw Story: 7 Shocking Gitmo Revelations |
Hissyspit |
Apr-24-11 11:19 PM |
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All this money all the lies the torture was just a total farce |
lovuian |
Apr-24-11 11:39 PM |
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I think most people believed it was a total farce from the beginning. |
polly7 |
Apr-25-11 11:15 AM |
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Reenacting 9/11 with origami art? |
Capitalocracy |
Apr-25-11 12:54 AM |
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Obviously, we TORTURED these people because we had no evidende against them ... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-25-11 01:49 AM |
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And just yesterday I wondered what our leaders had done to shut |
jwirr |
Apr-24-11 11:51 PM |
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BBC: "Wikileaks: Many at Guantanamo 'not dangerous'" |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 12:02 AM |
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Seton Hall has been on this for years. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 12:36 AM |
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You have to ask yourself: What is it the pugs and neocons are so very, very afraid of, |
ooglymoogly |
Apr-25-11 12:30 AM |
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It's long past time when we can blame Republicans. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 12:40 AM |
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Exactly what I've been thinking for some time. All that their secrecy does |
truth2power |
Apr-25-11 05:17 AM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Apr-25-11 01:14 PM |
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their own crimes being exposed |
librechik |
Apr-25-11 12:30 PM |
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don't worry! Obama will close it ANY DAY now. |
Bluebear |
Apr-25-11 12:41 AM |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Apr-25-11 01:33 AM |
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Evidently, we pulled in something like 140,000 + people ... many were basically "bought" -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-25-11 01:46 AM |
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And many were saying this would happen even before the war start, and certainly while it was |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 04:52 AM |
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K&R. nt |
OnyxCollie |
Apr-25-11 02:36 AM |
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Wikileaks is essential to real national security, IMHO. |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-25-11 02:45 AM |
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A bunch of low-level foot soldiers? |
NuclearDem |
Apr-25-11 03:47 AM |
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It's worse than that. Most of these people had nothing to do |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 08:59 AM |
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Exactly, in the class of herding goats in the wrong place at the wrong time, then maybe |
L. Coyote |
Apr-25-11 10:50 AM |
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Wikileaks: Many at Guantanamo 'not dangerous' |
Snoutport |
Apr-25-11 04:26 AM |
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k/r |
defendandprotect |
Apr-25-11 04:26 AM |
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WikiLeaks discloses new details on whereabouts of al-Qaeda leaders on 9/11 |
alp227 |
Apr-25-11 04:27 AM |
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ah......"informants" |
Scottybeamer70 |
Apr-25-11 04:27 AM |
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'US knew Guantanamo detainees were innocent' |
Judi Lynn |
Apr-25-11 05:35 AM |
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Glenn Geenwald: If Bradley Manning did what's accused, he imposed more transparency on the world's |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 06:45 AM |
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Glenn Greenwald: WikiLeaks has generated more newsworthy scoops over the last year than all media ou |
Hissyspit |
Apr-25-11 06:49 AM |
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I wish I could recommend this thread over and over again. |
Solly Mack |
Apr-25-11 07:13 AM |
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K & R |
Raksha |
Apr-25-11 07:20 AM |
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K & R |
dipsydoodle |
Apr-25-11 08:11 AM |
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K & R |
Better Believe It |
Apr-25-11 08:46 AM |
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We have always been at war with Eastasia. |
Javaman |
Apr-25-11 08:46 AM |
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Another kick! |
tekisui |
Apr-25-11 08:58 AM |
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Does anyone have any idea why the US did this? |
KansDem |
Apr-25-11 09:01 AM |
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Maybe the MIC was running out of enemies and was afraid of being defunded? |
azul |
Apr-25-11 09:31 AM |
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They did it to provide visible evidence to the sheep that there was a real reason to feel fear. |
GliderGuider |
Apr-25-11 09:40 AM |
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del. |
polly7 |
Apr-25-11 11:16 AM |
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BushCo cronies made brazillions off of the War on Terra. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 09:51 AM |
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All of the above. Plus, they did it because they could. |
Auggie |
Apr-25-11 10:05 AM |
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And got away with it scot-free. |
Amonester |
Apr-25-11 10:44 AM |
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Rumsfeld and Cheney are sadists. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 10:53 AM |
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I'm sure they also viewed it as "opportunity" to experiment |
Auggie |
Apr-25-11 01:25 PM |
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Marketing. Doing it made it clear to the enemy and the sheeple that the U.S. |
harun |
Apr-25-11 10:48 AM |
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Locked people in Gitmo? |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 11:59 AM |
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"Geneva rules didn't have this kind of conflict in mind" |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 02:55 PM |
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OK, what do you do with captured combatants... |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 03:32 PM |
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Maybe you should ask that question to the framers of the US constitution |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 04:03 PM |
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If you're going to excoriate people, I think you need to come up with a better idea |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 04:07 PM |
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It is not about "what I would do with them" but what the US government can't do |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 04:11 PM |
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You can hold POWs until the hostilities cease |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 04:13 PM |
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You need to declare a war first before you can detain people as POWs |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 04:22 PM |
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How does Geneva Convention |
orangeapple |
Apr-25-11 05:40 PM |
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Gee wiz... everything must be so fuzzy with such lack of reading and comprehension. |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 06:06 PM |
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The detainees aren't accused of "crimes" |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 06:51 PM |
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Trial balloon. |
liberation |
Apr-25-11 02:50 PM |
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Sounds like the perfect place |
JEB |
Apr-25-11 10:19 AM |
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CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION NOW!! |
L. Coyote |
Apr-25-11 10:46 AM |
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Pelosi did squat about Sami al Haj or anything else related to Gitmo. |
EFerrari |
Apr-25-11 11:14 AM |
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K/R |
defendandprotect |
Apr-25-11 11:01 AM |
#88 |
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On the one hand, it's about time this had light shed on it, |
tavalon |
Apr-25-11 11:15 AM |
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I remember when the first prisoners were released after several months |
lebkuchen |
Apr-25-11 01:28 PM |
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This is such a tough thing ot handle.... |
Corruption Winz |
Apr-25-11 02:56 PM |
#109 |
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Yep. Too bad Congress prevented them from being tried in civilian courts |
Recursion |
Apr-25-11 04:12 PM |
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K&R |
raouldukelives |
Apr-25-11 04:43 PM |
#121 |
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