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53. Wikileaks: Many at Guantanamo 'not dangerous'
Source: BBC

Files released by the whistleblowing website Wikileaks have revealed that the US believed many of those held at Guantanamo Bay were innocent or only low-level operatives.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13184845



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  -WikiLeaks: Guantanamo Bay Secrets Revealed (1,000s of Pages From Ten Years) Hissyspit  Apr-24-11 07:34 PM   #0 
  - Why isn't it closed now?  Rosa Luxemburg   Apr-24-11 08:35 PM   #1 
  - O is controversy-averse. The GOP may call him names. nt  davidwparker   Apr-24-11 08:43 PM   #3 
  - I am of the belief he has not  cstanleytech   Apr-24-11 10:48 PM   #23 
     - then - i guess, "doing the right thing" has fallen below "political expediency",  marasinghe   Apr-25-11 12:46 AM   #42 
        - That's been happening since day one,  tavalon   Apr-25-11 11:16 AM   #94 
        - Has it been any other way this current century?  Cherchez la Femme   Apr-25-11 05:25 PM   #124 
  - Don't lose "hope" okay?  DeSwiss   Apr-24-11 09:11 PM   #7 
  - interesting quote there  BetsysGhost   Apr-25-11 11:35 AM   #96 
  - Ban on U.S. trials for Guantanamo prisoners passes House again-Politico 12/17/10  MilesColtrane   Apr-24-11 10:11 PM   #15 
  - There's a thought  caraher   Apr-24-11 10:25 PM   #18 
  - one thing to keep in mind  orangeapple   Apr-24-11 10:55 PM   #26 
     - How many of those WERE innocent, but became terrorists  RaleighNCDUer   Apr-24-11 11:25 PM   #30 
     - I don't know, you don't know  orangeapple   Apr-24-11 11:51 PM   #34 
        - On what basis do you continue to imprison an innocent person?  EFerrari   Apr-25-11 12:58 AM   #44 
        - POWs can be held for the duration of the conflict  orangeapple   Apr-25-11 10:19 AM   #79 
           - These people weren't even combatants.  EFerrari   Apr-25-11 10:49 AM   #85 
              - What do you do about the ones who are AQ?  orangeapple   Apr-25-11 11:41 AM   #97 
                 - You try them and take the consequences  EFerrari   Apr-25-11 12:06 PM   #99 
                    - try them for what?  orangeapple   Apr-25-11 12:58 PM   #101 
                       - If they can't be charged with a crime, they have to be released.  EFerrari   Apr-25-11 01:10 PM   #102 
                       - Do you realize that you're using the same excuse that the MIC  truth2power   Apr-25-11 04:25 PM   #118 
                       - Hey, I was against that stupid war too!  orangeapple   Apr-25-11 04:34 PM   #119 
                          - Oh yes, "I was against XXX before I was for XXX" argument.  liberation   Apr-25-11 04:50 PM   #122 
                          - I'm not John Kerry  orangeapple   Apr-25-11 05:07 PM   #123 
                             - Thanks for proving my point.  liberation   Apr-25-11 05:28 PM   #125 
                                - why are you ducking the question?  orangeapple   Apr-25-11 05:38 PM   #126 
                                   - Ask a question and you will get an answer  liberation   Apr-25-11 06:03 PM   #129 
                                   - here's my question  orangeapple   Apr-25-11 07:59 PM   #135 
                          - First of all...  truth2power   Apr-25-11 05:55 PM   #128 
                       - That's bullshit because they HAVEN'T RECEIVED POW STATUS or PROTECTION UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS.  The Stranger   Apr-25-11 06:04 PM   #130 
        - Then you hold public trials so the people know  sabrina 1   Apr-25-11 06:48 PM   #133 
     - So TRY them. If guilty, imprison them, legally.  plumbob   Apr-25-11 12:08 AM   #36 
     - Well, what a surprise.  Hissyspit   Apr-25-11 06:52 AM   #62 
     - Yes it has, hasn't it? From the time Rummy was comparing  truth2power   Apr-25-11 03:45 PM   #111 
     - Dupe  Hissyspit   Apr-25-11 07:00 AM   #63 
     - BBC: Of 779 detainees at Guantanamo, all but 220 were innocent or low-level guerrillas |  Hissyspit   Apr-25-11 07:00 AM   #64 
     - I didn't have the numbers handy in my post above, Hissy, ..  truth2power   Apr-25-11 06:12 PM   #132 
     - HELLO! "according to a new intelligence assessment released by the Director of National Intelligence  L. Coyote   Apr-25-11 10:34 AM   #80 
     - Is that real terrorism, or speaking out against US policies?  Oak2004   Apr-25-11 11:29 AM   #95 
     - Jesus, the naivete in this post defies description and is maddening  coalition_unwilling   Apr-25-11 04:39 PM   #120 
  - He had plenty of time to act before that.  Capitalocracy   Apr-24-11 10:45 PM   #22 
     - The problem is  cstanleytech   Apr-24-11 10:52 PM   #24 
        - I'm sure it's Obama's opinion.  Capitalocracy   Apr-24-11 10:57 PM   #27 
  - I voted for Obama to see it closed  lovuian   Apr-24-11 11:35 PM   #31 
  - Because the rulers do not know how to govern without using torture.  grahamhgreen   Apr-25-11 02:43 AM   #49 
  - W/Cheney/Rumsfeld needed the farce of all this to keep myth of 9/11 going ...  defendandprotect   Apr-25-11 11:05 AM   #89 
  - Why isn't it closed now?  AlbertCat   Apr-25-11 08:53 AM   #70 
  - So....  underpants   Apr-24-11 08:42 PM   #2 
  - I don't know about this  PSPS   Apr-24-11 08:47 PM   #4 
  - There is just no way to paint a happy face on this story, but they sure did their best  L. Coyote   Apr-25-11 10:38 AM   #81 
  - WaPo Link:  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 08:51 PM   #5 
  - wikileaks: The Guantanamo Files  cal04   Apr-24-11 09:05 PM   #6 
  - New York Times Link "Timeline of Gitmo Detainees," More  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 09:13 PM   #8 
  - wikileaks: If you read Wikileaks' 'Gitmo Files' please do so with extra caution. 'Confessions' made  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 09:27 PM   #9 
  - These things  TacticalPeek   Apr-24-11 09:39 PM   #10 
  - McClatchy gets headline right: "WikiLeaks: Secret Guantanamo files show U.S. disarray"  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 09:46 PM   #11 
  - Delete - Duplicate  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 09:46 PM   #12 
  - Guardian: What are the Guantnamo Bay files? Understanding the prisoner dossiers  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 09:59 PM   #13 
  - "al-Qaida, the Taliban or other terror groups"  ronnie624   Apr-25-11 01:23 PM   #104 
  - Guardian gets headline right: "Guantnamo Bay files: Caught in the wrong place at the wrong time"  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 10:04 PM   #14 
  - WikLeaks: "This detainee was tortured in 3 different countries, held in CIA site but US gov file...  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 10:20 PM   #16 
     - WikiLeaks: "Australia: Guantanamo file for David Hicks released"  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 10:24 PM   #17 
     - .  Hissyspit   Apr-25-11 12:46 AM   #41 
     - Failure to prosecute is also illegal.  grahamhgreen   Apr-25-11 02:47 AM   #51 
  - Does anyone remember when Rumsfeld called them "the worst of the worst"?..  truth2power   Apr-24-11 10:35 PM   #19 
  - Do you remember the minute by minute media coverage  EFerrari   Apr-24-11 10:41 PM   #20 
  - Not just him. Rumsfeld: Hides War Crimes - Free. WikiLeaker: Reveals War Crimes -  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 10:41 PM   #21 
  - "imprisoning more than 150 totally innocent people" = WAR CRIMES!  L. Coyote   Apr-24-11 10:53 PM   #25 
  - This is a fascinating release.  tekisui   Apr-24-11 11:03 PM   #28 
  - Raw Story: 7 Shocking Gitmo Revelations  Hissyspit   Apr-24-11 11:19 PM   #29 
  - All this money all the lies the torture was just a total farce  lovuian   Apr-24-11 11:39 PM   #32 
  - I think most people believed it was a total farce from the beginning.  polly7   Apr-25-11 11:15 AM   #91 
  - Reenacting 9/11 with origami art?  Capitalocracy   Apr-25-11 12:54 AM   #43 
  - Obviously, we TORTURED these people because we had no evidende against them ...  defendandprotect   Apr-25-11 01:49 AM   #47 
  - And just yesterday I wondered what our leaders had done to shut  jwirr   Apr-24-11 11:51 PM   #33 
  - BBC: "Wikileaks: Many at Guantanamo 'not dangerous'"  Hissyspit   Apr-25-11 12:02 AM   #35 
  - Seton Hall has been on this for years.  EFerrari   Apr-25-11 12:36 AM   #38 
  - You have to ask yourself: What is it the pugs and neocons are so very, very afraid of,  ooglymoogly   Apr-25-11 12:30 AM   #37 
  - It's long past time when we can blame Republicans.  EFerrari   Apr-25-11 12:40 AM   #39 
  - Exactly what I've been thinking for some time. All that their secrecy does  truth2power   Apr-25-11 05:17 AM   #58 
  - +1  leftstreet   Apr-25-11 01:14 PM   #103 
  - their own crimes being exposed  librechik   Apr-25-11 12:30 PM   #100 
  - don't worry! Obama will close it ANY DAY now.  Bluebear   Apr-25-11 12:41 AM   #40 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   Apr-25-11 01:33 AM   #45 
  - Evidently, we pulled in something like 140,000 + people ... many were basically "bought" --  defendandprotect   Apr-25-11 01:46 AM   #46 
  - And many were saying this would happen even before the war start, and certainly while it was  Hissyspit   Apr-25-11 04:52 AM   #57 
  - K&R. nt  OnyxCollie   Apr-25-11 02:36 AM   #48 
  - Wikileaks is essential to real national security, IMHO.  grahamhgreen   Apr-25-11 02:45 AM   #50 
  - A bunch of low-level foot soldiers?  NuclearDem   Apr-25-11 03:47 AM   #52 
  - It's worse than that. Most of these people had nothing to do  EFerrari   Apr-25-11 08:59 AM   #72 
     - Exactly, in the class of herding goats in the wrong place at the wrong time, then maybe  L. Coyote   Apr-25-11 10:50 AM   #86 
  - Wikileaks: Many at Guantanamo 'not dangerous'  Snoutport   Apr-25-11 04:26 AM   #53 
  - k/r  defendandprotect   Apr-25-11 04:26 AM   #54 
  - WikiLeaks discloses new details on whereabouts of al-Qaeda leaders on 9/11  alp227   Apr-25-11 04:27 AM   #55 
  - ah......"informants"  Scottybeamer70   Apr-25-11 04:27 AM   #56 
  - 'US knew Guantanamo detainees were innocent'  Judi Lynn   Apr-25-11 05:35 AM   #59 
  - Glenn Geenwald: If Bradley Manning did what's accused, he imposed more transparency on the world's  Hissyspit   Apr-25-11 06:45 AM   #60 
  - Glenn Greenwald: WikiLeaks has generated more newsworthy scoops over the last year than all media ou  Hissyspit   Apr-25-11 06:49 AM   #61 
  - I wish I could recommend this thread over and over again.  Solly Mack   Apr-25-11 07:13 AM   #65 
  - K & R  Raksha   Apr-25-11 07:20 AM   #66 
  - K & R  dipsydoodle   Apr-25-11 08:11 AM   #67 
  - K & R  Better Believe It   Apr-25-11 08:46 AM   #68 
  - We have always been at war with Eastasia.  Javaman   Apr-25-11 08:46 AM   #69 
  - Another kick!  tekisui   Apr-25-11 08:58 AM   #71 
  - Does anyone have any idea why the US did this?  KansDem   Apr-25-11 09:01 AM   #73 
  - Maybe the MIC was running out of enemies and was afraid of being defunded?  azul   Apr-25-11 09:31 AM   #74 
  - They did it to provide visible evidence to the sheep that there was a real reason to feel fear.  GliderGuider   Apr-25-11 09:40 AM   #75 
  - del.  polly7   Apr-25-11 11:16 AM   #93 
  - BushCo cronies made brazillions off of the War on Terra.  EFerrari   Apr-25-11 09:51 AM   #76 
  - All of the above. Plus, they did it because they could.  Auggie   Apr-25-11 10:05 AM   #77 
  - And got away with it scot-free.  Amonester   Apr-25-11 10:44 AM   #82 
  - Rumsfeld and Cheney are sadists.  EFerrari   Apr-25-11 10:53 AM   #87 
     - I'm sure they also viewed it as "opportunity" to experiment  Auggie   Apr-25-11 01:25 PM   #105 
  - Marketing. Doing it made it clear to the enemy and the sheeple that the U.S.  harun   Apr-25-11 10:48 AM   #84 
  - Locked people in Gitmo?  Recursion   Apr-25-11 11:59 AM   #98 
  - "Geneva rules didn't have this kind of conflict in mind"  liberation   Apr-25-11 02:55 PM   #108 
     - OK, what do you do with captured combatants...  Recursion   Apr-25-11 03:32 PM   #110 
        - Maybe you should ask that question to the framers of the US constitution  liberation   Apr-25-11 04:03 PM   #112 
           - If you're going to excoriate people, I think you need to come up with a better idea  Recursion   Apr-25-11 04:07 PM   #113 
              - It is not about "what I would do with them" but what the US government can't do  liberation   Apr-25-11 04:11 PM   #114 
                 - You can hold POWs until the hostilities cease  Recursion   Apr-25-11 04:13 PM   #116 
                    - You need to declare a war first before you can detain people as POWs  liberation   Apr-25-11 04:22 PM   #117 
                       - How does Geneva Convention  orangeapple   Apr-25-11 05:40 PM   #127 
                          - Gee wiz... everything must be so fuzzy with such lack of reading and comprehension.  liberation   Apr-25-11 06:06 PM   #131 
                             - The detainees aren't accused of "crimes"  Recursion   Apr-25-11 06:51 PM   #134 
  - Trial balloon.  liberation   Apr-25-11 02:50 PM   #107 
  - Sounds like the perfect place  JEB   Apr-25-11 10:19 AM   #78 
  - CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION NOW!!  L. Coyote   Apr-25-11 10:46 AM   #83 
  - Pelosi did squat about Sami al Haj or anything else related to Gitmo.  EFerrari   Apr-25-11 11:14 AM   #90 
  - K/R  defendandprotect   Apr-25-11 11:01 AM   #88 
  - On the one hand, it's about time this had light shed on it,  tavalon   Apr-25-11 11:15 AM   #92 
  - I remember when the first prisoners were released after several months  lebkuchen   Apr-25-11 01:28 PM   #106 
  - This is such a tough thing ot handle....  Corruption Winz   Apr-25-11 02:56 PM   #109 
  - Yep. Too bad Congress prevented them from being tried in civilian courts  Recursion   Apr-25-11 04:12 PM   #115 
  - K&R  raouldukelives   Apr-25-11 04:43 PM   #121 
 

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