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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 05:05 AM
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125. Voting is not enough anymore
They have the election thing pretty well under control. Unlimited anonymous corporate contributions. Faith-based voting on unverifiable touch screen or just electronic tabulators that are also suspect. Proprietary voting software written and owned by right-wing corporatists. Suppressing the vote of the disenchanted. A well-managed corporate media that frames election issues in terms favorable to corporate interest. And, finally, they make sure we have nothing but a choice between two fully owned politicians to vote for.

US Uncut ( /) is one group taking the next step. Who else? Suggestions welcome, I know there are many groups trying to get enough direction and energy to make a difference.

We should be concentrating on direct actions. It's time to be disruptive. I like how the Egyptians did it. Nonviolent but with absolute determination.

The PTB care more about our labor and our spending that they care about our vote. They also care about civil order, about everything being nice and orderly, they don't like messes or disruptions. Hell, they don't even want to have to look at or hear most of us. Showing up will be half of the battle.

It's time for No More Business As Usual. A General Strike. Small but spirited flash protests with well-thought out tactical significance. Off the keyboards and into the streets.

We can see what road we're on now, and it's not going anywhere we want to go. Time to change that. Time to put more energy into threads advocating and organizing action for real change and less energy into threads wallowing in the details of the crimes of the Powers That Be.
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  -Sen. Dick Durbin: Social Security Cuts Should Not Be Ruled Out TacticalPeek  Apr-19-11 08:30 AM   #0 
  - What the hell is wrong with these people? nt  Mojorabbit   Apr-19-11 08:32 AM   #1 
  - What's wrong with them???  Plucketeer   Apr-19-11 10:46 AM   #48 
  - In a word: "Lobbyists" (nt)  apnu   Apr-19-11 01:24 PM   #75 
  - the whole system is corrupt, not just some congresspersons  wordpix   Apr-23-11 09:47 AM   #151 
  - they are democrats. that's what's wrong. nt  tomp   Apr-20-11 05:28 AM   #127 
  - Where is Senate sacrifice? Take them off pensions, we don't have the money, put them on Soc Sec.  SugarShack   Apr-19-11 11:18 AM   #63 
  - They are on social security. Every member of congress has,  24601   Apr-19-11 05:41 PM   #93 
  - They think we are powerless to stop them  Samantha   Apr-20-11 08:30 AM   #140 
  - Both parties are wholely owned subsidiaries of the Corporatists.  Odin2005   Apr-19-11 08:32 AM   #2 
  - Indeed...they give up their control for equal control with the repigs.  SugarShack   Apr-19-11 11:17 AM   #62 
  - Unfortunately, yes.  ozone_man   Apr-19-11 07:33 PM   #102 
  - You got it.  Nihil   Apr-20-11 06:57 AM   #129 
  - My sentiments exactly.. nt  raouldukelives   Apr-20-11 08:24 AM   #139 
  - +1  wordpix   Apr-23-11 09:48 AM   #152 
  - We are screwed. If Durbin is going along with SS 'reform', there  alsame   Apr-19-11 08:34 AM   #3 
  - Bullshit, there's no hope?  juajen   Apr-19-11 09:41 AM   #26 
  - I said there is 'little' hope, not no hope. I'm cynical, I don't  alsame   Apr-19-11 10:01 AM   #31 
  - Like we won public option and no Obama tax cuts for the rich?  No Elephants   Apr-19-11 10:04 AM   #32 
     - But the truth is we didn't fight  demwing   Apr-19-11 02:12 PM   #79 
  - You need not worry that much. Durbin is my Senator and he was bought  kysrsoze   Apr-19-11 05:52 PM   #96 
  - SS is not bankrupt  trud   Apr-20-11 07:21 AM   #133 
  - Flip side of the same coin. So what brand of cat food is your favorite? nt  deminks   Apr-19-11 08:37 AM   #4 
  - Have you checked the price of cat food lately?  glinda   Apr-19-11 10:20 AM   #38 
     - Tuna is cheaper  demwing   Apr-19-11 02:13 PM   #80 
        - Beans are cheaper than tuna.  freshwest   Apr-19-11 05:52 PM   #95 
  - Let's just tell it like it is people!  CoffeeCat   Apr-19-11 08:37 AM   #5 
  - +1 Thing is, what in hell do we do about it?  No Elephants   Apr-19-11 10:11 AM   #35 
  - I keep thinking that something will come along that will bring the  neoralme   Apr-19-11 10:58 AM   #57 
  - Yes it is time for everyone Dem and repuke alike to wake the fuck up!  L0oniX   Apr-19-11 10:22 AM   #41 
     - The one fading tool (weapon?) we have  Plucketeer   Apr-19-11 10:57 AM   #53 
     - voting won't work. elections are rigged. period.  tomp   Apr-20-11 05:32 AM   #128 
        - So...... what?  Plucketeer   Apr-20-11 10:48 AM   #144 
           - interesting question.  tomp   Apr-21-11 05:20 AM   #148 
              - No -no....  Plucketeer   Apr-21-11 10:30 AM   #149 
     - Yeah, and those options won't last much longer. Give me a call  neoralme   Apr-19-11 11:02 AM   #60 
  - Cool!  queerart   Apr-19-11 08:37 AM   #6 
  - Sold down the river  liberal N proud   Apr-19-11 08:41 AM   #7 
  - These are some REAL bastards  WhiteTara   Apr-19-11 08:45 AM   #8 
  - And he's more liberal than the ex-Senator from Illinois.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Apr-19-11 08:47 AM   #9 
  - The Gang of Three (so far)  iamtechus   Apr-19-11 08:48 AM   #10 
  - And yet . . .  Le Taz Hot   Apr-19-11 08:53 AM   #11 
  - So the question is;  Dyedinthewoolliberal   Apr-19-11 08:53 AM   #12 
  - Dick Durbin SHOULD Be Ruled Out  Demeter   Apr-19-11 08:58 AM   #13 
  - the bigger issue is medicare  bossy22   Apr-19-11 09:00 AM   #14 
  - Just eliminating the tax cap is enough.  plumbob   Apr-19-11 09:13 AM   #17 
     - Hold the horses, folks. Let's get to what the *article*, not the *title* said...  freshwest   Apr-19-11 05:54 PM   #98 
  - what a fool  florida08   Apr-19-11 09:04 AM   #15 
  - Probably why he made it into the Gang of 6.  No Elephants   Apr-19-11 10:09 AM   #34 
     - that would be my guess as well  florida08   Apr-19-11 02:59 PM   #83 
  - Wow - I'm represented on that commission (by Saxby Chambliss, a truly evil bastard)  groundloop   Apr-19-11 09:06 AM   #16 
  - In 08 we got stuck with Chambliss in a special election  Bluenorthwest   Apr-19-11 09:23 AM   #21 
  - Sure, the "Obama Only" voters did that.  OnyxCollie   Apr-19-11 10:21 AM   #40 
  - Chambliss is not why we're screwed. We're screwed because some  No Elephants   Apr-19-11 10:33 AM   #43 
  - I am ashamed  timdog44   Apr-19-11 09:15 AM   #18 
  - don't be too hard on IL...  druidity33   Apr-20-11 08:11 AM   #137 
  - These "Gangs" are nothing more than  _ed_   Apr-19-11 09:17 AM   #19 
  - Durbin love Ryan, how sweet is that!  Bluenorthwest   Apr-19-11 09:20 AM   #20 
  - We should confront Durbin about the fact that we have bankrupted  JDPriestly   Apr-19-11 09:31 AM   #22 
  - Those are all rethuglicans!  xxqqqzme   Apr-19-11 09:31 AM   #23 
  - Just raise the cap, and institute a fixed income tax. That will solve the problem /nt  still_one   Apr-19-11 09:33 AM   #24 
  - I'm guessing cuts in pay and benefits for Congress HAVE been ruled out though.  Rage for Order   Apr-19-11 09:38 AM   #25 
  - The Constitution rules that out, and for good reason.  No Elephants   Apr-19-11 10:38 AM   #45 
     - The Constitution rules what out, exactly?  Rage for Order   Apr-19-11 10:54 AM   #52 
        - The 27th Amendment  RantinRavin   Apr-19-11 02:20 PM   #81 
           - That's right - pay cuts would take effect after the next election cycle.  plumbob   Apr-19-11 04:44 PM   #87 
           - We just had an election of representatives in November.  Rage for Order   Apr-19-11 04:59 PM   #92 
  - Durbin can suck it. Thief enabler. (nt)  w4rma   Apr-19-11 09:42 AM   #27 
  - is there anyone in congress NOT on the take n/t  newfie11   Apr-19-11 09:48 AM   #28 
  - Just look for the guy who gets bashed more than anyone.  OnyxCollie   Apr-19-11 10:25 AM   #42 
  - I'd bet my life Bernie Sanders is clean and I'm pretty sure (so far) about Franken and  No Elephants   Apr-19-11 10:44 AM   #47 
     - Shame on me for forgetting Bernie.  OnyxCollie   Apr-19-11 10:49 AM   #49 
  - "is there anyone in congress NOT on the take".....YES!!  bvar22   Apr-19-11 10:41 AM   #46 
     - IMO, there are no more wings to the Democratic Party. The DLC types have taken it over, with  No Elephants   Apr-19-11 10:57 AM   #54 
     - YES!!!  newspeak   Apr-19-11 09:48 PM   #114 
  - Why aren't they voting  Aerows   Apr-19-11 09:56 AM   #29 
  - They can't.  Travelman   Apr-19-11 01:03 PM   #74 
     - So they do it, and it takes effect NEXT year, 2012, instead of this year.  plumbob   Apr-19-11 04:47 PM   #88 
        - Oh, believe me, I completely agree with you  Travelman   Apr-20-11 11:20 AM   #145 
  - NOT ONE THIN DIME, SENATOR!  amb123   Apr-19-11 09:59 AM   #30 
  - I guess the list of those who won't work against us is really short. Nt  xchrom   Apr-19-11 10:06 AM   #33 
  - When Senators start living on Social Security,  Downwinder   Apr-19-11 10:13 AM   #36 
  - Fuck you TOO, asshole. Cut your own fucking neck, not ours  OwnedByFerrets   Apr-19-11 10:13 AM   #37 
  - Fuck that.  closeupready   Apr-19-11 10:20 AM   #39 
  - Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  pmorlan1   Apr-19-11 10:36 AM   #44 
  - +1  No Elephants   Apr-19-11 11:00 AM   #58 
  - ...I paid in...and my employers have paid in (for me)...By GAWD, I better get my money back!  SoapBox   Apr-19-11 10:53 AM   #50 
  - p.s......Applause!  SoapBox   Apr-19-11 10:54 AM   #51 
  - Fucking douche  abqmufc   Apr-19-11 10:57 AM   #55 
  - Comments to Senator Dick Durbin  pmorlan1   Apr-19-11 10:58 AM   #56 
  - You CAN call and fax:  annabanana   Apr-20-11 05:09 AM   #126 
  - All in all he's just another...  Hubert Flottz   Apr-19-11 11:01 AM   #59 
  - Cat Food Commission and Gang of 6 = cya kabuki at taxpayers' expense.  No Elephants   Apr-19-11 11:03 AM   #61 
  - Six wealthy, old, white, males meeting in secret call the shots, BULLSHIT!!  FreeStateDemocrat   Apr-19-11 11:24 AM   #64 
  - Lets eliminate Senate retirement fund and transfer money to SSI fund  on point   Apr-19-11 11:29 AM   #65 
  - SS does not add 1 penny to the debt  Jim_Shorts   Apr-19-11 11:30 AM   #66 
  - Thank you!  plumbob   Apr-19-11 04:48 PM   #90 
  - Paying back the "borrowed" SS trust funds adds trillions to the debt.  Psephos   Apr-19-11 10:12 PM   #115 
  - He likes Paul Ryan?!  Luciferous   Apr-19-11 11:34 AM   #67 
  - Once Democrats have yielded the high ground of support for SS & Medicare to the Republicans,  elocs   Apr-19-11 11:38 AM   #68 
  - You suck, Dick  HankyDubs   Apr-19-11 12:02 PM   #69 
  - "Plan that will chart a middle ground"  FlyByNight   Apr-19-11 12:21 PM   #70 
  - This was the entire point of the "Gang of Six" - use the whacko Ryan plan  bullwinkle428   Apr-19-11 12:46 PM   #71 
  - Exactly! n/t  NCarolinawoman   Apr-19-11 02:00 PM   #78 
  - I had to check to make sure this wasn't a parody in The Onion  Martin Eden   Apr-19-11 12:46 PM   #72 
  - to put this respectfully..  Zorra   Apr-19-11 12:51 PM   #73 
  - Follow the chess moves.  NCarolinawoman   Apr-19-11 01:59 PM   #76 
  - Kick! Lines have been crossed, time for only real democrats to enjoy our support (nt)  Babel_17   Apr-19-11 02:00 PM   #77 
  - Durbin should all over himself.  No Elephants   Apr-19-11 02:30 PM   #82 
  - Even though Social Security is not the problem...  and-justice-for-all   Apr-19-11 03:57 PM   #84 
  - CUTS?!?!  ReggieVeggie   Apr-19-11 04:06 PM   #85 
  - Another 'Gang'-related crime about to go down, I see.  AzDar   Apr-19-11 04:40 PM   #86 
  - This is criminal.  JDPriestly   Apr-19-11 04:48 PM   #89 
  - NO. nt  woo me with science   Apr-19-11 04:56 PM   #91 
  - if he touches social security i will not vote for him ever again  reggie the dog   Apr-19-11 05:46 PM   #94 
  - You think that would make a difference?  Nihil   Apr-20-11 07:04 AM   #130 
  - I believe he is retiring  Samantha   Apr-20-11 08:36 AM   #141 
  - Don't worry Sen. Dick, you guys will  Autumn   Apr-19-11 05:54 PM   #97 
  - The only rationale for discussing social security and the deficit in the same sentence  lumberjack_jeff   Apr-19-11 07:26 PM   #99 
  - "The billionaires are going to want that money," he added.  moondust   Apr-19-11 07:28 PM   #100 
  - O boy.....  midnight   Apr-19-11 07:29 PM   #101 
  - Sen. Dick Durbin: Social Security Cuts Should Not Be Ruled Out  t0dd   Apr-19-11 08:54 PM   #103 
  - Durbin has been sucking on the corporate talking points  Larkspur   Apr-19-11 08:54 PM   #104 
  - They are going to meet in the middle and decide what to do with our money,  HysteryDiagnosis   Apr-19-11 08:54 PM   #105 
  - called his office earlier today. The staffer sounded like she didn't care  rurallib   Apr-19-11 08:54 PM   #106 
  - Raise the cap  jaysunb   Apr-19-11 08:54 PM   #107 
  - " will be in the middle, a bipartisan effort..."  unkachuck   Apr-19-11 08:54 PM   #108 
  - If we have prominent Democratic politicians holding hands with Republicans in going after SS,  elocs   Apr-19-11 08:54 PM   #109 
  - We sure know how to argue successfully against the GOP  high density   Apr-19-11 08:54 PM   #110 
  - "Scrap the Cap"  ProSense   Apr-19-11 08:54 PM   #111 
  - So, where was the deficit last December when they extended tax cuts for the rich?  somone   Apr-19-11 08:54 PM   #112 
  - Hoyer, Clyburn Continue to Tout Retirement Age Increase  slipslidingaway   Apr-19-11 08:57 PM   #113 
     - They basically make a living by running their mouths.  NCarolinawoman   Apr-20-11 04:13 PM   #146 
  - Dick Durbin: Banks "Frankly Own The Place"  Jefferson23   Apr-19-11 10:28 PM   #116 
  - That was two years ago. He's singing a different song now "The banks own me!"  Better Believe It   Apr-19-11 10:46 PM   #118 
     - Exactly why I posted it. It's sad to hear them cave when they use to  Jefferson23   Apr-19-11 10:51 PM   #119 
  - It is obvious there is ONE PARTY in America and its Corruption  lovuian   Apr-19-11 10:41 PM   #117 
  - F*CK Y*U!  KansDem   Apr-19-11 11:45 PM   #120 
  - He won't get my vote in 2012 if he messes with Social Security  rpannier   Apr-19-11 11:59 PM   #121 
  - +1  andlor   Apr-20-11 07:44 AM   #135 
  - No liberals to be found both parties are bought and paid for,totally useless!  democracy1st   Apr-20-11 01:46 AM   #122 
  - Again and again they prove that we're on our own.  myrna minx   Apr-20-11 03:28 AM   #123 
  - Imagine, instead of raising the cap  Enthusiast   Apr-20-11 04:56 AM   #124 
  - Voting is not enough anymore  dreamnightwind   Apr-20-11 05:05 AM   #125 
  - The "gang" of six can fuck off.  blackspade   Apr-20-11 07:12 AM   #131 
  - Fuck Dick Durbin  BlueJac   Apr-20-11 07:15 AM   #132 
  - It's coming folks, what are you going to do?  Javaman   Apr-20-11 07:24 AM   #134 
  - Comes down to do you want to think you're safe from TERRORISM or have food & health care?  FreeStateDemocrat   Apr-20-11 08:07 AM   #136 
  - We need a *real* investigative reporter  TownDrunk2   Apr-20-11 08:13 AM   #138 
  - Durban is like most Politicians  JJW   Apr-20-11 08:37 AM   #142 
  - Tom Coburn, R-Okla.; Mike Crapo, R-Idaho; Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.; Mark Warner, D-Va.; and Kent Conra  AlbertCat   Apr-20-11 08:37 AM   #143 
  - Social Security INCREASES should not be ruled out either!  Agony   Apr-20-11 06:22 PM   #147 
  - I just wrote this letter to Dick Durbin, who is my Senator  Martin Eden   Apr-23-11 09:05 AM   #150 

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