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Tue Apr-19-11 10:21 AM
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| 40. Sure, the "Obama Only" voters did that. |
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http://wikisum.com/w/Converse:_The_nature_of_belief_sys... In Brief
A great majority of people neither adhere to a full, complete set of beliefs which produces a clear ideology nor do they have a clear grasp of what ideology is. This is measured by a lack of coherence in responses to open-ended questions. Ideology of elites is not mirrored by the masses and voter revolt to a political party does not reflect ideological shifts.
Converse analyzes open-ended interview questions to measure conceptualization of ideology. He concludes that the liberal-conservative continuum is a high level abstraction not typically used by the man in the street because of response instability and lack of connections made between answers. There is no underlying belief structure for most people, just a bunch of random opinions. Even on highly controversial, well-publicized issues, large portions of the electorate do not have coherent opinions. In fact, many simply answer survey questions as though they are flipping a coin.
Though some political sophisticates do structure their opinions in a larger ideological framework, such structure is rare. This level of political sophistication (one's "level of conceptualization") is correlated positively with the respondent's level of education, degree of political involvement, and amount of political information.
Key points: Most people do not have strong belief systems; that is, they do not think ideologically. A minority of people have fixed preferences and answer survey questions consistently, but most simply give random answers. Most people do not interpret politics through an ideological lens. Keep playing the blame game. It's all you've got.
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| -Sen. Dick Durbin: Social Security Cuts Should Not Be Ruled Out |
TacticalPeek |
Apr-19-11 08:30 AM |
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What the hell is wrong with these people? nt |
Mojorabbit |
Apr-19-11 08:32 AM |
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What's wrong with them??? |
Plucketeer |
Apr-19-11 10:46 AM |
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In a word: "Lobbyists" (nt) |
apnu |
Apr-19-11 01:24 PM |
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the whole system is corrupt, not just some congresspersons |
wordpix |
Apr-23-11 09:47 AM |
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they are democrats. that's what's wrong. nt |
tomp |
Apr-20-11 05:28 AM |
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Where is Senate sacrifice? Take them off pensions, we don't have the money, put them on Soc Sec. |
SugarShack |
Apr-19-11 11:18 AM |
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They are on social security. Every member of congress has, |
24601 |
Apr-19-11 05:41 PM |
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They think we are powerless to stop them |
Samantha |
Apr-20-11 08:30 AM |
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Both parties are wholely owned subsidiaries of the Corporatists. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-19-11 08:32 AM |
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Indeed...they give up their control for equal control with the repigs. |
SugarShack |
Apr-19-11 11:17 AM |
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Unfortunately, yes. |
ozone_man |
Apr-19-11 07:33 PM |
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You got it. |
Nihil |
Apr-20-11 06:57 AM |
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My sentiments exactly.. nt |
raouldukelives |
Apr-20-11 08:24 AM |
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+1 |
wordpix |
Apr-23-11 09:48 AM |
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We are screwed. If Durbin is going along with SS 'reform', there |
alsame |
Apr-19-11 08:34 AM |
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Bullshit, there's no hope? |
juajen |
Apr-19-11 09:41 AM |
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I said there is 'little' hope, not no hope. I'm cynical, I don't |
alsame |
Apr-19-11 10:01 AM |
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Like we won public option and no Obama tax cuts for the rich? |
No Elephants |
Apr-19-11 10:04 AM |
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But the truth is we didn't fight |
demwing |
Apr-19-11 02:12 PM |
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You need not worry that much. Durbin is my Senator and he was bought |
kysrsoze |
Apr-19-11 05:52 PM |
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SS is not bankrupt |
trud |
Apr-20-11 07:21 AM |
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Flip side of the same coin. So what brand of cat food is your favorite? nt |
deminks |
Apr-19-11 08:37 AM |
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Have you checked the price of cat food lately? |
glinda |
Apr-19-11 10:20 AM |
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Tuna is cheaper |
demwing |
Apr-19-11 02:13 PM |
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Beans are cheaper than tuna. |
freshwest |
Apr-19-11 05:52 PM |
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Let's just tell it like it is people! |
CoffeeCat |
Apr-19-11 08:37 AM |
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+1 Thing is, what in hell do we do about it? |
No Elephants |
Apr-19-11 10:11 AM |
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I keep thinking that something will come along that will bring the |
neoralme |
Apr-19-11 10:58 AM |
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Yes it is time for everyone Dem and repuke alike to wake the fuck up! |
L0oniX |
Apr-19-11 10:22 AM |
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The one fading tool (weapon?) we have |
Plucketeer |
Apr-19-11 10:57 AM |
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voting won't work. elections are rigged. period. |
tomp |
Apr-20-11 05:32 AM |
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So...... what? |
Plucketeer |
Apr-20-11 10:48 AM |
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interesting question. |
tomp |
Apr-21-11 05:20 AM |
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No -no.... |
Plucketeer |
Apr-21-11 10:30 AM |
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Yeah, and those options won't last much longer. Give me a call |
neoralme |
Apr-19-11 11:02 AM |
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Cool! |
queerart |
Apr-19-11 08:37 AM |
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Sold down the river |
liberal N proud |
Apr-19-11 08:41 AM |
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These are some REAL bastards |
WhiteTara |
Apr-19-11 08:45 AM |
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And he's more liberal than the ex-Senator from Illinois. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Apr-19-11 08:47 AM |
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The Gang of Three (so far) |
iamtechus |
Apr-19-11 08:48 AM |
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And yet . . . |
Le Taz Hot |
Apr-19-11 08:53 AM |
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So the question is; |
Dyedinthewoolliberal |
Apr-19-11 08:53 AM |
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Dick Durbin SHOULD Be Ruled Out |
Demeter |
Apr-19-11 08:58 AM |
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the bigger issue is medicare |
bossy22 |
Apr-19-11 09:00 AM |
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Just eliminating the tax cap is enough. |
plumbob |
Apr-19-11 09:13 AM |
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Hold the horses, folks. Let's get to what the *article*, not the *title* said... |
freshwest |
Apr-19-11 05:54 PM |
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what a fool |
florida08 |
Apr-19-11 09:04 AM |
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Probably why he made it into the Gang of 6. |
No Elephants |
Apr-19-11 10:09 AM |
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that would be my guess as well |
florida08 |
Apr-19-11 02:59 PM |
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Wow - I'm represented on that commission (by Saxby Chambliss, a truly evil bastard) |
groundloop |
Apr-19-11 09:06 AM |
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In 08 we got stuck with Chambliss in a special election |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-19-11 09:23 AM |
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Sure, the "Obama Only" voters did that. |
OnyxCollie |
Apr-19-11 10:21 AM |
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Chambliss is not why we're screwed. We're screwed because some |
No Elephants |
Apr-19-11 10:33 AM |
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I am ashamed |
timdog44 |
Apr-19-11 09:15 AM |
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don't be too hard on IL... |
druidity33 |
Apr-20-11 08:11 AM |
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These "Gangs" are nothing more than |
_ed_ |
Apr-19-11 09:17 AM |
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Durbin love Ryan, how sweet is that! |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-19-11 09:20 AM |
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We should confront Durbin about the fact that we have bankrupted |
JDPriestly |
Apr-19-11 09:31 AM |
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Those are all rethuglicans! |
xxqqqzme |
Apr-19-11 09:31 AM |
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Just raise the cap, and institute a fixed income tax. That will solve the problem /nt |
still_one |
Apr-19-11 09:33 AM |
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I'm guessing cuts in pay and benefits for Congress HAVE been ruled out though. |
Rage for Order |
Apr-19-11 09:38 AM |
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The Constitution rules that out, and for good reason. |
No Elephants |
Apr-19-11 10:38 AM |
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The Constitution rules what out, exactly? |
Rage for Order |
Apr-19-11 10:54 AM |
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The 27th Amendment |
RantinRavin |
Apr-19-11 02:20 PM |
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That's right - pay cuts would take effect after the next election cycle. |
plumbob |
Apr-19-11 04:44 PM |
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We just had an election of representatives in November. |
Rage for Order |
Apr-19-11 04:59 PM |
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Durbin can suck it. Thief enabler. (nt) |
w4rma |
Apr-19-11 09:42 AM |
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is there anyone in congress NOT on the take n/t |
newfie11 |
Apr-19-11 09:48 AM |
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Just look for the guy who gets bashed more than anyone. |
OnyxCollie |
Apr-19-11 10:25 AM |
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I'd bet my life Bernie Sanders is clean and I'm pretty sure (so far) about Franken and |
No Elephants |
Apr-19-11 10:44 AM |
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Shame on me for forgetting Bernie. |
OnyxCollie |
Apr-19-11 10:49 AM |
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"is there anyone in congress NOT on the take".....YES!! |
bvar22 |
Apr-19-11 10:41 AM |
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IMO, there are no more wings to the Democratic Party. The DLC types have taken it over, with |
No Elephants |
Apr-19-11 10:57 AM |
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YES!!! |
newspeak |
Apr-19-11 09:48 PM |
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Why aren't they voting |
Aerows |
Apr-19-11 09:56 AM |
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They can't. |
Travelman |
Apr-19-11 01:03 PM |
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So they do it, and it takes effect NEXT year, 2012, instead of this year. |
plumbob |
Apr-19-11 04:47 PM |
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Oh, believe me, I completely agree with you |
Travelman |
Apr-20-11 11:20 AM |
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NOT ONE THIN DIME, SENATOR! |
amb123 |
Apr-19-11 09:59 AM |
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I guess the list of those who won't work against us is really short. Nt |
xchrom |
Apr-19-11 10:06 AM |
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When Senators start living on Social Security, |
Downwinder |
Apr-19-11 10:13 AM |
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Fuck you TOO, asshole. Cut your own fucking neck, not ours |
OwnedByFerrets |
Apr-19-11 10:13 AM |
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Fuck that. |
closeupready |
Apr-19-11 10:20 AM |
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
pmorlan1 |
Apr-19-11 10:36 AM |
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+1 |
No Elephants |
Apr-19-11 11:00 AM |
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...I paid in...and my employers have paid in (for me)...By GAWD, I better get my money back! |
SoapBox |
Apr-19-11 10:53 AM |
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p.s......Applause! |
SoapBox |
Apr-19-11 10:54 AM |
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Fucking douche |
abqmufc |
Apr-19-11 10:57 AM |
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Comments to Senator Dick Durbin |
pmorlan1 |
Apr-19-11 10:58 AM |
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You CAN call and fax: |
annabanana |
Apr-20-11 05:09 AM |
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All in all he's just another... |
Hubert Flottz |
Apr-19-11 11:01 AM |
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Cat Food Commission and Gang of 6 = cya kabuki at taxpayers' expense. |
No Elephants |
Apr-19-11 11:03 AM |
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Six wealthy, old, white, males meeting in secret call the shots, BULLSHIT!! |
FreeStateDemocrat |
Apr-19-11 11:24 AM |
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Lets eliminate Senate retirement fund and transfer money to SSI fund |
on point |
Apr-19-11 11:29 AM |
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SS does not add 1 penny to the debt |
Jim_Shorts |
Apr-19-11 11:30 AM |
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Thank you! |
plumbob |
Apr-19-11 04:48 PM |
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Paying back the "borrowed" SS trust funds adds trillions to the debt. |
Psephos |
Apr-19-11 10:12 PM |
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He likes Paul Ryan?! |
Luciferous |
Apr-19-11 11:34 AM |
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Once Democrats have yielded the high ground of support for SS & Medicare to the Republicans, |
elocs |
Apr-19-11 11:38 AM |
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You suck, Dick |
HankyDubs |
Apr-19-11 12:02 PM |
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"Plan that will chart a middle ground" |
FlyByNight |
Apr-19-11 12:21 PM |
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This was the entire point of the "Gang of Six" - use the whacko Ryan plan |
bullwinkle428 |
Apr-19-11 12:46 PM |
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Exactly! n/t |
NCarolinawoman |
Apr-19-11 02:00 PM |
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I had to check to make sure this wasn't a parody in The Onion |
Martin Eden |
Apr-19-11 12:46 PM |
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Hmmm...how to put this respectfully.. |
Zorra |
Apr-19-11 12:51 PM |
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Follow the chess moves. |
NCarolinawoman |
Apr-19-11 01:59 PM |
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Kick! Lines have been crossed, time for only real democrats to enjoy our support (nt) |
Babel_17 |
Apr-19-11 02:00 PM |
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Durbin should all over himself. |
No Elephants |
Apr-19-11 02:30 PM |
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Even though Social Security is not the problem... |
and-justice-for-all |
Apr-19-11 03:57 PM |
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CUTS?!?! |
ReggieVeggie |
Apr-19-11 04:06 PM |
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Another 'Gang'-related crime about to go down, I see. |
AzDar |
Apr-19-11 04:40 PM |
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This is criminal. |
JDPriestly |
Apr-19-11 04:48 PM |
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NO. nt |
woo me with science |
Apr-19-11 04:56 PM |
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if he touches social security i will not vote for him ever again |
reggie the dog |
Apr-19-11 05:46 PM |
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You think that would make a difference? |
Nihil |
Apr-20-11 07:04 AM |
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I believe he is retiring |
Samantha |
Apr-20-11 08:36 AM |
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Don't worry Sen. Dick, you guys will |
Autumn |
Apr-19-11 05:54 PM |
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The only rationale for discussing social security and the deficit in the same sentence |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-19-11 07:26 PM |
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"The billionaires are going to want that money," he added. |
moondust |
Apr-19-11 07:28 PM |
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O boy..... |
midnight |
Apr-19-11 07:29 PM |
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Sen. Dick Durbin: Social Security Cuts Should Not Be Ruled Out |
t0dd |
Apr-19-11 08:54 PM |
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Durbin has been sucking on the corporate talking points |
Larkspur |
Apr-19-11 08:54 PM |
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They are going to meet in the middle and decide what to do with our money, |
HysteryDiagnosis |
Apr-19-11 08:54 PM |
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called his office earlier today. The staffer sounded like she didn't care |
rurallib |
Apr-19-11 08:54 PM |
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Raise the cap |
jaysunb |
Apr-19-11 08:54 PM |
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"...it will be in the middle, a bipartisan effort..." |
unkachuck |
Apr-19-11 08:54 PM |
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If we have prominent Democratic politicians holding hands with Republicans in going after SS, |
elocs |
Apr-19-11 08:54 PM |
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We sure know how to argue successfully against the GOP |
high density |
Apr-19-11 08:54 PM |
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"Scrap the Cap" |
ProSense |
Apr-19-11 08:54 PM |
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So, where was the deficit last December when they extended tax cuts for the rich? |
somone |
Apr-19-11 08:54 PM |
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Hoyer, Clyburn Continue to Tout Retirement Age Increase |
slipslidingaway |
Apr-19-11 08:57 PM |
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They basically make a living by running their mouths. |
NCarolinawoman |
Apr-20-11 04:13 PM |
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Dick Durbin: Banks "Frankly Own The Place" |
Jefferson23 |
Apr-19-11 10:28 PM |
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That was two years ago. He's singing a different song now "The banks own me!" |
Better Believe It |
Apr-19-11 10:46 PM |
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Exactly why I posted it. It's sad to hear them cave when they use to |
Jefferson23 |
Apr-19-11 10:51 PM |
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It is obvious there is ONE PARTY in America and its Corruption |
lovuian |
Apr-19-11 10:41 PM |
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F*CK Y*U! |
KansDem |
Apr-19-11 11:45 PM |
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He won't get my vote in 2012 if he messes with Social Security |
rpannier |
Apr-19-11 11:59 PM |
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+1 |
andlor |
Apr-20-11 07:44 AM |
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No liberals to be found both parties are bought and paid for,totally useless! |
democracy1st |
Apr-20-11 01:46 AM |
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Again and again they prove that we're on our own. |
myrna minx |
Apr-20-11 03:28 AM |
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Imagine, instead of raising the cap |
Enthusiast |
Apr-20-11 04:56 AM |
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Voting is not enough anymore |
dreamnightwind |
Apr-20-11 05:05 AM |
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The "gang" of six can fuck off. |
blackspade |
Apr-20-11 07:12 AM |
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Fuck Dick Durbin |
BlueJac |
Apr-20-11 07:15 AM |
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It's coming folks, what are you going to do? |
Javaman |
Apr-20-11 07:24 AM |
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Comes down to do you want to think you're safe from TERRORISM or have food & health care? |
FreeStateDemocrat |
Apr-20-11 08:07 AM |
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We need a *real* investigative reporter |
TownDrunk2 |
Apr-20-11 08:13 AM |
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Durban is like most Politicians |
JJW |
Apr-20-11 08:37 AM |
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Tom Coburn, R-Okla.; Mike Crapo, R-Idaho; Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.; Mark Warner, D-Va.; and Kent Conra |
AlbertCat |
Apr-20-11 08:37 AM |
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Social Security INCREASES should not be ruled out either! |
Agony |
Apr-20-11 06:22 PM |
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I just wrote this letter to Dick Durbin, who is my Senator |
Martin Eden |
Apr-23-11 09:05 AM |
#150 |