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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 05:13 PM
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93. I recall folks saying Obama could not possibly have the $$ to close Gitmo unless Congress voted.
You'dda thunk the CIC and Pentagon were budgeted to the penny, just like some of us peons.

Somehow, though, he apparently found enough loose change under the cushions in the Oval Office to do all kinds of things to Libya. How many hundred million do you suppose we've spent so far?

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  -Clinton To Congress: Obama Would Ignore Your War Resolutions kpete  Mar-30-11 04:10 PM   #0 
  - It was a nice republic while it lasted. n/t  EFerrari   Mar-30-11 04:11 PM   #1 
  - No kidding.  enlightenment   Mar-30-11 04:14 PM   #3 
  - yep. because it most certainly is a republic no longer.  ixion   Mar-30-11 04:31 PM   #10 
  - I know when the republic died  Baby Bear   Mar-30-11 09:20 PM   #48 
  - Yes sireee.  avaistheone1   Mar-31-11 10:12 AM   #62 
  - One more time, with feeling: The Presidency Should be Abolished  Jack Rabbit   Mar-31-11 02:19 PM   #85 
  - Clear, official notice that Obama thinks he's above the law  FiveGoodMen   Mar-30-11 04:12 PM   #2 
  - That notice came when he refused to prosecute BushCo. n/t  EFerrari   Mar-30-11 04:20 PM   #6 
  - The US has had an imperial presidency for a few decades now  liberation   Mar-30-11 04:20 PM   #7 
     - Nothing like what it has been since 911. Constitution in shreds.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 11:14 AM   #66 
  - Now that was Spinely to stick up for the Spineful President....indicating the GOP is flummoxed  opihimoimoi   Mar-30-11 04:15 PM   #4 
  - The US Constitution is becoming tattered and torn all in the name of  lumpy   Mar-30-11 04:31 PM   #11 
  - I don't think so....  opihimoimoi   Mar-30-11 05:18 PM   #20 
     - The constitution has a clause to specifically prevent standing armies.  caseymoz   Mar-30-11 06:09 PM   #34 
     - No it doesn't  ttwiddler   Mar-30-11 10:56 PM   #53 
        - Sorry, you're so wrong, yes it does!!  caseymoz   Mar-31-11 09:49 AM   #58 
        - Legal constraints on executive power are silly? How Nixonian!  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 11:45 AM   #70 
        - Congress may authorize an army, but only for 2 years at a time.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 02:08 PM   #84 
     - Well, as long as YOU don't THINK so, it must be as you say.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 11:20 AM   #68 
  - don't know if you caught this or not, but brad sherman is a dem..  frylock   Mar-30-11 05:09 PM   #19 
  - A tad supect despite his many years in office...but linked to Scientology thingy  opihimoimoi   Mar-30-11 05:23 PM   #23 
     - Of course your ad hominems and narrative are not suspect at all...  liberation   Mar-30-11 05:57 PM   #29 
     - The negative narrative in our society has reached imbalanced levels...  opihimoimoi   Mar-30-11 06:03 PM   #31 
        - Right...  liberation   Mar-30-11 06:06 PM   #33 
        - Lots of imbalance of all kinds.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 01:35 PM   #78 
     - suspect in what respect?  frylock   Mar-30-11 06:55 PM   #40 
        - A true believer automatically finds him suspect because he's not  ThomCat   Mar-31-11 09:50 AM   #59 
  - Remind us which President said he'd override a war vote by Congress.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 11:18 AM   #67 
  - The imperial presidency, an impeachable offense.  Metta   Mar-30-11 04:20 PM   #5 
  - So.....  DeSwiss   Mar-30-11 04:23 PM   #8 
  - Illegal shortcut to war.  lumpy   Mar-30-11 04:29 PM   #9 
  - I was sort of for this action on behalf of Libya before I'm now against it. I'm  monmouth   Mar-30-11 04:37 PM   #12 
  - and in breaking news, the President states he will simple ignore the Articles of Impeachment........  stockholmer   Mar-30-11 04:40 PM   #13 
  - The repubs may attempt to impeach the President. nt  Zorra   Mar-30-11 04:44 PM   #14 
  - On what?  Iliyah   Mar-30-11 04:51 PM   #15 
     - You're assuming the Koch snorters are rational beings  Jack Rabbit   Mar-31-11 03:03 PM   #89 
  - we don`t have the ability to fight another land war...  madrchsod   Mar-30-11 05:05 PM   #16 
  - Hell, we do not have the ability to deal with Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan without driving our  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 11:51 AM   #71 
  - What?  abelenkpe   Mar-30-11 05:05 PM   #17 
  - decider 2: electric bugaloo  frylock   Mar-30-11 05:07 PM   #18 
  - Funny, his ardents are always claiming his powers are very  Bluenorthwest   Mar-30-11 05:19 PM   #21 
  - To be fair the extent of their stance has been that if Obama does it, it must be for a reason  liberation   Mar-30-11 06:02 PM   #30 
  - it will be even more entertaining when the self-fufilling prophecy of president palin..  frylock   Mar-30-11 06:18 PM   #36 
     - OFGS...that Palin/Bachman thing is the Powers that Be Pushing to keep Obama in Power...  KoKo   Mar-31-11 09:16 PM   #102 
  - "Funny, his ardents are always claiming his powers are very limited"  Gravel Democrat   Mar-31-11 01:19 AM   #55 
  - It's also funny that the only time Obama shows a spine is when  ThomCat   Mar-31-11 09:55 AM   #60 
  - So long representative government the last nail went into your coffin. n/t  abqmufc   Mar-30-11 05:22 PM   #22 
  - I don't think a resolution carries the force of law.  Wilms   Mar-30-11 05:27 PM   #24 
  - Not so simple. Start with the Constitution, which gives Congress the  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 12:44 PM   #72 
     - Too late to edit, but year of War Powers Resolution is wrong. I apologize.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 01:53 PM   #80 
     - Thanks for the response.  Wilms   Mar-31-11 07:04 PM   #94 
  - Hope President Obama is enjoying his Nobel Peace Prize.  democrank   Mar-30-11 05:44 PM   #25 
  - I don't support Obama generally, nor do I support wars  oNobodyo   Mar-30-11 05:44 PM   #26 
  - Those of us who think that he should follow the War Powers Resolutions,  amandabeech   Mar-30-11 05:51 PM   #28 
  - "I don't support Obama generally, nor do I support wars..."  liberation   Mar-30-11 06:03 PM   #32 
  - True enough...  oNobodyo   Mar-30-11 06:24 PM   #37 
     - Based on what you've said, you support certain wars.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 01:20 PM   #76 
  - "So far Libya has been done correctly and it's saved lives." ????  Frank Ness   Mar-31-11 10:06 AM   #61 
  - What in the Constitutiion gives the Senate authority to pass a Resolution like that?  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 01:07 PM   #73 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-30-11 05:47 PM   #27 
  - oh for pity's sake.  cali   Mar-30-11 07:42 PM   #44 
     - Yeah, no shit  Avant Guardian   Mar-31-11 10:32 AM   #64 
  - It's awful, but the irony is bittersweet.  caseymoz   Mar-30-11 06:13 PM   #35 
  - This still getting to be a worse nighmare than the day before...  bluesmail   Mar-30-11 06:25 PM   #38 
  - "Fascism du jour." Did you just make that up? I'm jealous.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 01:43 PM   #79 
  - Okay hold it - since Reagan was in office we have been TOLD they could deploy  underpants   Mar-30-11 06:25 PM   #39 
  - It's 60, although that was an expansion, too, iirc. n/t  EFerrari   Mar-30-11 06:56 PM   #41 
  - Please see Reply 72.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 01:59 PM   #81 
  - Go ahead. Make him ignore them and then do what you need to do Congress  Catherina   Mar-30-11 07:36 PM   # 
  - and what is it that you think they'd need to do?  cali   Mar-30-11 07:41 PM   #43 
  - Nothing will be done, except maybe more bloviating.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 02:54 PM   #88 
     - I'm not holding my breath either. n/t  Catherina   Mar-31-11 08:24 PM   #96 
  - I've always thought that the War Powers Act had Constitutional  24601   Mar-30-11 07:36 PM   #42 
  - Obama was "lecturer in law" was not a "professor", and there is a difference.  amandabeech   Mar-30-11 08:55 PM   #47 
  - Politically flawed, morally flawed - yes. Constitutionally flawed - no,  24601   Mar-31-11 03:43 AM   #57 
     - Wha? Are you saying the Constitution is not Constitutionally flawed since  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 02:35 PM   #87 
  - Many think that the War Powers Act is unconstitutional, BUT that analysis  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 02:21 PM   #86 
  - Why, how very special.  Stinky The Clown   Mar-30-11 08:06 PM   #45 
  - And somehow everyone neglects the fact that we didn't put any people on the ground in Libya.  Arkana   Mar-30-11 08:29 PM   #46 
  - It has been reported this evening that the CIA is on the ground and has been for some time.  amandabeech   Mar-30-11 09:31 PM   #49 
  - CIA is in Libya and likely Special Forces.  EFerrari   Mar-30-11 09:31 PM   #50 
  - CIA is in every country.  joshcryer   Mar-30-11 09:56 PM   #52 
  - No boots on the ground = no war?  WatsonT   Mar-31-11 02:01 PM   #83 
  - You don't think there are "boots on ground" in Libya? CIA wears Sneakers?  KoKo   Mar-31-11 09:20 PM   #103 
  - Obama is building a precident for an imperial "presidency". asdfasdfsda!!! (nt)  w4rma   Mar-30-11 09:43 PM   #51 
  - This is stupid  ttwiddler   Mar-30-11 11:01 PM   #54 
  - Queen Hillary got the warfever  Baclava   Mar-31-11 01:27 AM   #56 
  - Did it say "Hillary Would Ignore Your War Resolutions?"  Avant Guardian   Mar-31-11 10:30 AM   #63 
  - I just have the feeling that this is Hillary's War, and Obama is being dragged along  Baclava   Mar-31-11 01:10 PM   #74 
     - Is your hypothesis that he's lame, helpless, not too bright, too easily led??  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 04:39 PM   #91 
        - No, I just think Hillary wants Moe's head on a stick and she's gonna by gawd get it  Baclava   Mar-31-11 07:53 PM   #95 
  - That dog won't hunt, Obama's her boss. She does his bidding, not the other way round.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 04:51 PM   #92 
     - Maybe the Queen has aspirations for higher office. You can't tell me she's not out for blood.  Baclava   Mar-31-11 08:45 PM   #98 
  - I agree with Obama/Clinton on this one.....  Keith Bee   Mar-31-11 11:03 AM   #65 
  - We can ignore laws, even the Constitution, at will? Please see Reply # 72.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 01:25 PM   #77 
  - Must be more to it than just the RW...though. That's a pretty harsh statement from her..  KoKo   Mar-31-11 09:15 PM   #101 
  - Isn't having an Emperor grand? What could possibly go wrong?  harun   Mar-31-11 11:21 AM   #69 
  - Emperor in chief. nt  ProgressIn2008   Mar-31-11 01:16 PM   #75 
  - They wanted to anoint George Washington as King.  F Bastiat   Mar-31-11 04:33 PM   #90 
  - Yeehaw! Let's kill us some ferriners  WatsonT   Mar-31-11 01:59 PM   #82 
  - I recall folks saying Obama could not possibly have the $$ to close Gitmo unless Congress voted.  No Elephants   Mar-31-11 05:13 PM   #93 
  - "The White House would forge ahead with military action in Libya..."  unkachuck   Mar-31-11 08:33 PM   #97 
  - How would Senator Obama respond? n/t  rayofreason   Mar-31-11 09:13 PM   #99 
  - Oh My..That's pretty harsh. Hard to know what's going on with that...  KoKo   Mar-31-11 09:13 PM   #100 
 

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