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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:28 PM
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  -Boeing Wins US Air Force KC-X Refueling Aircraft Contract bossy22  Feb-24-11 04:22 PM   #0 
  - Who says corruption, incompetence and fraud doesn't pay?  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 04:27 PM   #1 
  - and a refueling boom falling off doesnt count?  bossy22   Feb-24-11 04:45 PM   #5 
  - The EADS spinoffs were much greater  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 05:23 PM   #7 
  - You don't know what Boeing would do when the tanker program is done.  pnwmom   Feb-24-11 05:47 PM   #12 
     - What jobs is Boeing "creating"?  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 05:54 PM   #16 
     - The 50,000 jobs across the country they will need to build this plane.  pnwmom   Feb-24-11 06:16 PM   #24 
     - That is ridiculous,  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 06:31 PM   #27 
        - America doesn't need Airbus at all. n/t  pnwmom   Feb-25-11 02:16 AM   #36 
           - Remember that in ten years  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-25-11 03:10 AM   #38 
           - Dream on. n/t  pnwmom   Feb-25-11 05:34 AM   #40 
           - Rubbish. Plain rubbish.  KDLarsen   Feb-25-11 06:13 PM   #50 
              - How dare you bring facts into this!  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-25-11 08:11 PM   #51 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-24-11 06:36 PM   #28 
     - from what I've read...  ensemble   Feb-24-11 06:43 PM   #30 
        - Not in the U.S. Most of the EADS jobs would be in Europe. n/t  pnwmom   Feb-25-11 02:16 AM   #37 
  - I'm with you on this one.  nalnn   Feb-25-11 02:41 PM   #43 
  - Boeing's plane will need 24% less fuel and can land at more airports.  pnwmom   Feb-24-11 05:44 PM   #11 
     - A mediocre platform for 99% of the price of the gold standard  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 05:49 PM   #13 
        - Boeing paid for that scandal and the people involved lost their jobs.  pnwmom   Feb-24-11 05:56 PM   #17 
           - And this $35 billion dollar contract doesn't make all that worth it?  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 05:59 PM   #20 
              - No, not for the individuals who were responsible and who lost their jobs.  pnwmom   Feb-24-11 06:10 PM   #23 
                 - yeah, bet their shareholders are feeling really "affected" right now  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 06:21 PM   #25 
                    - She wasn't thrown under the bus. She was the one responsible for her self-serving actions. n/t  pnwmom   Feb-25-11 02:12 AM   #35 
                       - don't be naive  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-25-11 04:01 AM   #39 
                          - Which is why Sears, the CFO, was fired (and served jail time)  pnwmom   Feb-25-11 05:46 AM   #41 
                             - $615m fine in exchange for a 35 billion dollar contract a few years later,  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-25-11 02:19 PM   #42 
                                - They deserved the 35 billion dollar contract.  pnwmom   Feb-25-11 02:59 PM   #44 
                                   - Sending two 767's to do the job of a single A330 isn't remotely efficient  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-25-11 03:07 PM   #45 
                                      - Now you're getting into hypotheticals. Sorry, but this decision  pnwmom   Feb-25-11 03:17 PM   #46 
                                         - That is why EADS won in 2008 and the only sore losers are Boeing  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-25-11 03:33 PM   #47 
                                            - "Few remaining engineers"? You really are living in fantasy land. The GAO  pnwmom   Feb-25-11 09:40 PM   #52 
                                               - So you are also uninformed about Boeing layoffs, color me shocked!  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-25-11 10:39 PM   #53 
                                                  - I am well aware of the layoffs, and I'm well aware that tens of thousands  pnwmom   Feb-25-11 10:44 PM   #54 
                                                     - The forty year fuel projection is a fiction  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-26-11 12:38 AM   #57 
  - well...  ensemble   Feb-24-11 04:35 PM   #2 
  - ensemble  Diclotican   Feb-24-11 04:43 PM   #3 
  - The A330 isn't more "modern" in its fuel costs.  pnwmom   Feb-24-11 05:58 PM   #19 
     - but it can't take-off from more airports  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 06:02 PM   #22 
     - pnwmom  Diclotican   Feb-24-11 07:32 PM   #32 
        - EADS knew the fix was in,  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 07:45 PM   #33 
           - Sen. Walter Sobchak  Diclotican   Feb-24-11 07:58 PM   #34 
  - Great news, if your interest is perpetuating fraud against the taxpayer without consequences  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 04:43 PM   #4 
     - simple  bossy22   Feb-24-11 04:50 PM   #6 
        - Interesting theory, except both are red herrings  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 05:27 PM   #8 
  - More  ProSense   Feb-24-11 05:28 PM   #9 
  - Could it be that this is a taxpayer bailout to offset the $12-$18 billion in cost overruns on the 7  Citizen Worker   Feb-24-11 05:37 PM   #10 
  - This has been in the works since 2001, so, no -- not unless they  pnwmom   Feb-24-11 05:49 PM   #14 
     - Strange how it worked out the way that it did. An opportune time to insure cash flow for years to  Citizen Worker   Feb-24-11 06:37 PM   #29 
  - This certainly did not go the way everyone was betting  ProgressiveProfessor   Feb-24-11 05:53 PM   #15 
  - Seeing as they have bought into a completely discredited platform  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-24-11 05:56 PM   #18 
     - The prior proposal was a Frankenplane...not enough details out about this one yet  ProgressiveProfessor   Feb-24-11 06:01 PM   #21 
  - Now if Boeing could get back to work on the 787...  Blue_Tires   Feb-24-11 06:25 PM   #26 
  - USA....we're #1 at making weapons of mass destruction!  Hulk   Feb-24-11 07:30 PM   #31 
  - Screw Health Care,we need those Weapons to defend us against  classysassy   Feb-25-11 04:53 PM   #48 
  - Hardly a surprise  KDLarsen   Feb-25-11 05:45 PM   #49 
  - Mixed feelings on this. My family works for Pratt and Whitney, which will supply the engines.  Jennicut   Feb-25-11 10:46 PM   #55 
  - Boeing cutting 1,100 jobs from U.S. plants  OhioChick   Feb-25-11 11:34 PM   #56 
 

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