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| 54. I swear this country is going out of its collective mind. |
| -South Dakota Moves To Legalize Killing Abortion Providers |
Hissyspit |
Feb-15-11 06:55 AM |
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Does "gone around the bend" mean anything anymore? |
HereSince1628 |
Feb-15-11 06:58 AM |
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Sounds like something out of Shariah law |
Gman |
Feb-15-11 07:05 AM |
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That's exactly what I thought |
fasttense |
Feb-15-11 07:28 AM |
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At least it won't pass. SD tried to ban abortion 2 years ago, failed to pass. |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-15-11 11:10 AM |
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My first thought |
era veteran |
Feb-15-11 08:30 AM |
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Bingo! That's what they want here. Total subjugation. nt |
valerief |
Feb-15-11 09:11 AM |
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Sharia law is nothing compared to what these wack jobs want. |
Xenotime |
Feb-15-11 10:49 AM |
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well now this is silly |
SnakeEyes |
Feb-15-11 12:24 PM |
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Yes but at least they allow abortions |
WatsonT |
Feb-15-11 01:54 PM |
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"they stone women for being raped"? Who's "they"? And where did this happen? |
Turborama |
Feb-15-11 07:46 PM |
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Yes, they do. |
Control-Z |
Feb-15-11 10:39 PM |
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Again. "They" means who and where was this? I'll tell you... 50 men in Somalia. |
Turborama |
Feb-16-11 02:11 AM |
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Wow, it does. n/t |
Beartracks |
Feb-15-11 06:59 PM |
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still would br illegal federally, no? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Feb-15-11 07:06 AM |
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I believe that murder would generally fall within state jurisdiction. |
Callisto32 |
Feb-15-11 07:44 AM |
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But it might fall under RICO |
Pab Sungenis |
Feb-15-11 07:53 AM |
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Perhaps. But the primary role is supreme intimidation |
RufusTFirefly |
Feb-15-11 09:44 AM |
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How would it fall under RICO? |
SnakeEyes |
Feb-15-11 12:26 PM |
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If the killer can be connected |
Pab Sungenis |
Feb-15-11 12:56 PM |
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And if they can't, then we say, "Oh, well."? |
Wednesdays |
Feb-15-11 10:32 PM |
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The effort to pass the law sounds like a conspiracy to commit murder to me. |
JoePhilly |
Feb-15-11 01:42 PM |
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It would still be illegal under state law. Read the bill. It's poorly written, but would not... |
slackmaster |
Feb-15-11 10:26 AM |
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what's next? "honor killings"???? nt |
Locrian |
Feb-15-11 07:09 AM |
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You beat me to it! |
get the red out |
Feb-15-11 07:49 AM |
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yeah, and when you have nuts like Beck talking |
newspeak |
Feb-16-11 10:22 AM |
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It will be struck down as unconstitutional as it's overly broad. |
no_hypocrisy |
Feb-15-11 07:11 AM |
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For me that's not the even the point |
madmax |
Feb-15-11 08:03 AM |
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Really? Even if it makes it to the Supremem Court? |
EnviroBat |
Feb-15-11 08:26 AM |
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Who has the standing to make the Constitutional Challenge? |
happyslug |
Feb-15-11 08:41 AM |
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The last abortion law they passed that was overly broad... |
prairierose |
Feb-15-11 10:47 AM |
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In that case, someone had standing, that could be a woman who wanted an abortion |
happyslug |
Feb-15-11 01:29 PM |
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Does that mean the denial of prenatal care which results in infant |
Vinca |
Feb-15-11 07:13 AM |
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Ha!!! If only. I'm sure that will be covered by 'act of god'. nt |
valerief |
Feb-15-11 09:12 AM |
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As I |
kcks |
Feb-15-11 07:26 AM |
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"It could in theory allow a woman's father, mother, son, daughter, or husband to kill anyone..." |
Hissyspit |
Feb-15-11 07:29 AM |
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Not as |
kcks |
Feb-15-11 07:48 AM |
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Amazing isn't it? |
nalnn |
Feb-15-11 08:58 AM |
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This is called 'mission creep' and we are RIGHT to 'fly off the handle' about it. |
Occulus |
Feb-15-11 09:39 AM |
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I see what you're saying. |
nalnn |
Feb-15-11 09:51 AM |
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Ha! |
WatsonT |
Feb-15-11 09:20 AM |
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Also |
WatsonT |
Feb-15-11 09:24 AM |
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I |
kcks |
Feb-15-11 09:45 AM |
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Not even remotely... |
whopis01 |
Feb-15-11 10:23 AM |
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No it doesn't. |
ronnie624 |
Feb-15-11 10:28 AM |
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This bill has been extensively amended (hoghoused) |
ronnie624 |
Feb-15-11 09:23 AM |
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Timing |
nalnn |
Feb-15-11 09:36 AM |
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Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. n/t |
ronnie624 |
Feb-15-11 09:45 AM |
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Sorry |
nalnn |
Feb-15-11 09:54 AM |
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to protect an unborn baby from anyone who would deliberately attack a pregnant woman. |
AlbertCat |
Feb-15-11 09:57 AM |
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Given that South Dakota already has a "fetal murder" law, the version here wouldn't change anything |
slackmaster |
Feb-15-11 10:32 AM |
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Perhaps it is just a political stunt. |
ronnie624 |
Feb-15-11 10:38 AM |
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Yep. Theoretically, this same "right" already exists in other states like California |
Xithras |
Feb-15-11 12:19 PM |
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Agreed on all factual points but one nit |
slackmaster |
Feb-15-11 12:32 PM |
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Soo..... |
Xithras |
Feb-16-11 05:49 PM |
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The hurder is whether or not you can convince a court that you had a REASONABLE belief that force... |
slackmaster |
Feb-16-11 05:58 PM |
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That means that according to many posters on this thread |
WatsonT |
Feb-15-11 05:23 PM |
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It's okay, reading comprehension isn't a lot of folks strong suit |
snooper2 |
Feb-15-11 11:02 AM |
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They sure know how to take the moral "high groung" |
CanonRay |
Feb-15-11 07:46 AM |
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nuttiest state legislature. |
AlbertCat |
Feb-15-11 10:05 AM |
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This is horrifying! We are now officially a country without sense or conscience. |
MasonJar |
Feb-15-11 07:49 AM |
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We need to bring back the Equal Rights Amendment |
Joanne98 |
Feb-15-11 07:50 AM |
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+ 1,000 |
suffragette |
Feb-15-11 09:40 AM |
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That Is EXACTLY What the Wingnuts Are Aiming For |
RetiredTrotskyite |
Feb-15-11 02:01 PM |
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it doesn't matter if this gets struck down -- the nut wads that a bill like this |
xchrom |
Feb-15-11 07:53 AM |
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Yes. It's a dog whistle. nt |
snappyturtle |
Feb-15-11 08:05 AM |
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How LOW can THEY sink?? n/t |
orbitalman |
Feb-15-11 07:53 AM |
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I presume they mean by stoning them publicly in the town square. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Feb-15-11 07:57 AM |
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The fact |
Scottybeamer70 |
Feb-15-11 07:59 AM |
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Since 2000k I've had a gut feeling about us |
madmax |
Feb-15-11 07:59 AM |
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Sadly... |
EnviroBat |
Feb-15-11 08:28 AM |
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Yes, I think you're right. |
madmax |
Feb-15-11 10:32 AM |
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When I think that I've seen everything... |
Shining Jack |
Feb-15-11 08:10 AM |
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You have GOT to be kidding me |
LynneSin |
Feb-15-11 08:15 AM |
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legalizing Murder ? |
AsahinaKimi |
Feb-15-11 08:16 AM |
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It's official: this country has gone insane. Recd. nt |
raccoon |
Feb-15-11 08:23 AM |
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just when i thought i couldn't be shocked |
barbtries |
Feb-15-11 08:25 AM |
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Jeezus wept. |
AzDar |
Feb-15-11 08:26 AM |
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Someone get this Republican self-immolation on film please, for the 2012 campaign |
L. Coyote |
Feb-15-11 08:29 AM |
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What's the current law? A pregnant mother can't kill in defense of their unborn? |
newtothegame |
Feb-15-11 08:36 AM |
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This law doesn't hold abortion providers liable as murderers. |
whopis01 |
Feb-15-11 10:22 AM |
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So the OP and accompanying headline are completely misleading. nt |
newtothegame |
Feb-15-11 11:34 AM |
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Absolutely n/t |
whopis01 |
Feb-16-11 01:27 PM |
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What the HELL? |
LiberalEsto |
Feb-15-11 08:51 AM |
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this is pro-life? |
Buenaventura |
Feb-15-11 08:54 AM |
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Yep. Pro-life Rethug style. It totally amazes me that people who believe this |
tpsbmam |
Feb-15-11 10:34 AM |
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Still amazes me... |
ndsgn00 |
Feb-15-11 02:53 PM |
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Welcome to DU! |
tpsbmam |
Feb-15-11 10:03 PM |
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they are probably big on the death penalty too.... |
lunasun |
Feb-15-11 11:40 AM |
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In Republican Wingnut World, life begins at conception... |
beac |
Feb-15-11 12:15 PM |
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on the plus side murder in general would become very easy |
reggie the dog |
Feb-15-11 09:01 AM |
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Now that's some serious "half full" reasoning |
MattBaggins |
Feb-15-11 10:23 AM |
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i was trying to think like a tea bagger.... |
reggie the dog |
Feb-15-11 10:25 AM |
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Can anyone explain to me what the story is with the Dakotas? |
primavera |
Feb-15-11 09:01 AM |
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Um, I suggest that guy be put in jail for inciting murder |
PatrynXX |
Feb-15-11 09:11 AM |
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essentially what they are doing is telling people to commit murder, and that is legal? /nt |
still_one |
Feb-15-11 09:24 AM |
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Christian-Taliban in South Dakota? |
defendandprotect |
Feb-15-11 09:25 AM |
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Republican Insanity is going unchecked and should be stopped |
santamargarita |
Feb-15-11 09:41 AM |
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I swear this country is going out of its collective mind. |
Paper Roses |
Feb-15-11 09:45 AM |
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This is in direct violation of federal law. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Feb-15-11 09:57 AM |
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Un-fucking-real. |
Zoeisright |
Feb-15-11 09:58 AM |
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So South Dakota is legalizing honor killings now? |
blackspade |
Feb-15-11 10:05 AM |
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Poorly written, and would not justify killing someone for performing lawful abortions |
slackmaster |
Feb-15-11 10:16 AM |
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Wouldn't that make the state financially liable under federal law if someone then did it? |
closeupready |
Feb-15-11 10:21 AM |
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Two Americas. |
SpankMe |
Feb-15-11 10:23 AM |
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Time to move west |
AlbertCat |
Feb-15-11 11:40 AM |
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We are no longer "going to hell in a handbasket." No. |
montanto |
Feb-15-11 10:36 AM |
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..... |
varkam |
Feb-15-11 10:56 AM |
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Anyone who introduced this legislation or sponsors it is in VIOLATION |
forty6 |
Feb-15-11 10:56 AM |
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Good Lord Help Us. This has gone into insanity. |
northoftheborder |
Feb-15-11 10:58 AM |
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Tea Nazi's strike again eh? |
feslen |
Feb-15-11 11:02 AM |
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Is anyone at the clinic a fair target? The receptionist? |
sharesunited |
Feb-15-11 11:05 AM |
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Another one! |
bongbong |
Feb-15-11 11:17 AM |
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so there are no unemployed people, underfunded schools, or anything else to worry about in SD? |
yurbud |
Feb-15-11 11:20 AM |
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What part of "Thou shalt not kill" don't these Bible-thumpers understand? |
KamaAina |
Feb-15-11 11:31 AM |
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What part of "Thou shalt not kill" don't these Bible-thumpers understand? |
AlbertCat |
Feb-15-11 11:50 AM |
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What scumbags. Now |
moobu2 |
Feb-15-11 11:46 AM |
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What if the abortion MD were a PREGNANT woman? Heh, gocha! nt. |
mistertrickster |
Feb-15-11 11:56 AM |
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wow...this is sicker than an abortion...these people are perverted. |
SoapBox |
Feb-15-11 11:56 AM |
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Did you read the bill? |
joeglow3 |
Feb-15-11 12:31 PM |
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I hear this happenes all the time |
WatsonT |
Feb-15-11 01:55 PM |
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Civilization: DOA. nt |
BlueIris |
Feb-15-11 12:12 PM |
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The repukes wanna take us back |
kratos00 |
Feb-15-11 12:16 PM |
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To quote Bill Hicks: "we're pro-life and we'll kill your ass!" |
Initech |
Feb-15-11 12:24 PM |
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My Poor Country |
danbee46 |
Feb-15-11 12:58 PM |
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So that means that it is legal to kill the killing baby killers. |
Marnie |
Feb-15-11 01:00 PM |
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"while resisting an attempt to harm" |
Marnie |
Feb-15-11 01:32 PM |
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Source of my confusion |
nalnn |
Feb-15-11 01:40 PM |
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Sounds like the GOP in SD just admited to developing a conspiracy to commit murder. |
JoePhilly |
Feb-15-11 01:41 PM |
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What about killing Native Americans and stealing their land? |
RedCloud |
Feb-15-11 02:04 PM |
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That is mind-bendingly horrifying. |
ChadwickHenryWard |
Feb-15-11 02:26 PM |
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I submit... |
humbled_opinion |
Feb-15-11 02:33 PM |
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I did a double-take when I logged on and saw this. |
AngryOldDem |
Feb-15-11 02:35 PM |
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A perfect marriage of gun righters and choose lifers. |
onehandle |
Feb-15-11 02:41 PM |
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Interesting. So they want a CHOICE over whether or not they can kill those doctors, while... |
CrossChris |
Feb-15-11 02:43 PM |
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right, they want an "OK to Murder" -- sick f****! |
katty |
Feb-15-11 02:58 PM |
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They never cease to amaze. The other day I was joking about their stance on child labor laws |
CrossChris |
Feb-15-11 03:06 PM |
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geezus, who knows anymore-the psychotic POV is being |
katty |
Feb-15-11 03:10 PM |
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WHY are these people NOT called out for inciting potential MURDER? |
katty |
Feb-15-11 02:52 PM |
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I think you just did |
slackmaster |
Feb-15-11 03:01 PM |
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i suppose-however, wish this view was discussed front & center |
katty |
Feb-15-11 03:06 PM |
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And these are the same people afraid of Shria law. This is basically the same thing. |
craigmatic |
Feb-15-11 02:52 PM |
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Because We all know that harming a live person is less murder than a fetus. |
Spiderzumbie |
Feb-15-11 03:00 PM |
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What do you expect from the state that has the highest rates of rape in the country? |
Odin2005 |
Feb-15-11 03:04 PM |
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Then they will have to shoot the woman who is going for an abortion also. |
glinda |
Feb-15-11 04:39 PM |
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Who cares about her? She has a uterus and is choosing not to use it, so she deserves death. |
BlueIris |
Feb-15-11 04:49 PM |
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Insert a rider including election thieves and see where it goes then. |
sofa king |
Feb-15-11 04:40 PM |
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what next? |
DesertFlower |
Feb-15-11 05:03 PM |
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I've read through this whole thing. The OP's headline is incredibly misleading and irresponsible. n |
newtothegame |
Feb-15-11 06:01 PM |
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Here's the update they posted: |
Hissyspit |
Feb-15-11 06:57 PM |
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And what if you shoot Scot Roeder shooting George Tiller in SD?... |
cascadiance |
Feb-15-11 06:22 PM |
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then they are insane... legislating right wing religious doctrine |
fascisthunter |
Feb-15-11 07:25 PM |
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This is why Roe vs. Wade is a terrible law |
Ter |
Feb-15-11 07:57 PM |
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this poses a conundrum... |
provis99 |
Feb-16-11 04:40 AM |
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How anyone can attempt to legalize murder is beyond any... |
rasputin1952 |
Feb-16-11 06:42 AM |
#150 |
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To paraphrase Judge Roy Bean, some politicians should be hanged, because they need hangin'. |
Vidar |
Feb-16-11 11:16 AM |
#152 |
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