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Sun Feb-13-11 09:16 AM
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| 70. people are blowing this out of proportion |
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theres nothing wrong with "If you come to France, you accept to melt into a single community, which is the national community, and if you do not want to accept that, you cannot be welcome in France,"
In fact Britan and France have serious issues with immigrants setting up shop essentially their own little countries and not adopting some French ways.
Sorry but he's right.
Immigration without the immigrants RECOGNITION of the HOST COUNTRY, its values, culture and language doesnt work.
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| -Multiculturalism has failed, says French president |
onehandle |
Feb-11-11 08:34 AM |
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Multiculturalism in the US has mostly been successful. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-11-11 08:40 AM |
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"mostly" is the key phrase |
architect359 |
Feb-11-11 08:48 AM |
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So which Native American tribe do you belong to? |
greiner3 |
Feb-11-11 09:59 AM |
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Unlike the European countries, |
Moral_Imagination |
Feb-12-11 04:30 AM |
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Our Constitution guarantees certain basic rights. |
JDPriestly |
Feb-11-11 10:07 AM |
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Not really. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Feb-11-11 10:54 AM |
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As long as you exclude upstate NY |
NeoConsSuck |
Feb-12-11 07:50 PM |
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The French President has failed multiculturalism! n / t |
Paranoid Pessimist |
Feb-13-11 02:39 PM |
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French president has failed, say people of many cultures n/t |
VWolf |
Feb-11-11 08:41 AM |
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agreed. |
krabigirl |
Feb-11-11 06:09 PM |
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oui, c'est vire |
bajamary |
Feb-11-11 08:41 PM |
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Sarkozy: "Oh, It's just too hard!!!" |
gtar100 |
Feb-13-11 05:33 PM |
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Says a right wing blowhole |
AnOhioan |
Feb-11-11 08:46 AM |
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Says yet ANOTHER right-wing blowhole |
KamaAina |
Feb-13-11 01:17 PM |
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delete... dupe |
WilmywoodNCparalegal |
Feb-11-11 08:50 AM |
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To a certain extent, I agree with Sarkozy |
WilmywoodNCparalegal |
Feb-11-11 08:50 AM |
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And the 'Land of the Free;' |
greiner3 |
Feb-11-11 10:01 AM |
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I'll give an example of where the USA did not go for multiculturalism: polygamy |
muriel_volestrangler |
Feb-15-11 02:18 PM |
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+1 |
WatsonT |
Feb-11-11 10:41 AM |
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But that's obviously not the sense in which he meant it. |
sudopod |
Feb-12-11 12:09 PM |
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'joining a growing number of world leaders or ex-leaders who have condemned it' |
marmar |
Feb-11-11 08:50 AM |
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ususally when numerous world leaders condemn something, it's pretty beneficial |
MisterP |
Feb-11-11 11:23 PM |
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Yep, see post below for exact same headline with different conservative names attached... |
Turborama |
Feb-11-11 11:41 PM |
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Wonder if he's still kicking Roma Gypsies out of France? |
BenzoDia |
Feb-11-11 08:51 AM |
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yep. |
krabigirl |
Feb-11-11 06:11 PM |
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How would he know? France is notoriously defensive of its native culture. |
DirkGently |
Feb-11-11 08:54 AM |
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rench far right praises British PM for attacking multiculturalism and immigration |
pampango |
Feb-11-11 08:59 AM |
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Gee. Are Sarkozy's poll ratings still in the "Cheney zone"...? |
regnaD kciN |
Feb-11-11 09:01 AM |
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It's easy to say that when you never even tried. |
nyy1998 |
Feb-11-11 09:11 AM |
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Like colonialism failed? |
muntrv |
Feb-11-11 12:11 PM |
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Bingo. France would not have so many Muslim immigrants if they had not spent hundreds of years... |
Ash_F |
Feb-12-11 02:39 PM |
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Multiculturalism in Canada seems successful. |
provis99 |
Feb-11-11 03:10 PM |
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Not to the Québécois it does not |
panzerfaust |
Feb-12-11 07:03 AM |
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It would not surprise me one bit. |
amandabeech |
Feb-12-11 03:10 PM |
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Indeed, multiculturalism is enshrined in their constitution. |
pampango |
Feb-12-11 07:17 AM |
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No, that's not it - France has failed its own ideals of 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity'. |
closeupready |
Feb-11-11 03:37 PM |
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Well, Sarkozy has most definitely failed! |
LeftishBrit |
Feb-11-11 05:03 PM |
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Fuck you Sarko. Your rich friends brought muslims to europe to exploit the cheap labor |
conspirator |
Feb-11-11 05:44 PM |
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ironic coming from a Hungarian-Greek Jew who rose to become president of France |
stockholmer |
Feb-11-11 05:55 PM |
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by accepting the culture and values of France |
panzerfaust |
Feb-12-11 06:56 AM |
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Americans used to say the same thing about Catholics... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-15-11 02:52 PM |
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no, Sarkozy has failed. Hoping a socialist will best him in 2012. fascist scum. |
krabigirl |
Feb-11-11 06:09 PM |
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as always with the closet fascists - the age-old false-equivalence stunt. |
marasinghe |
Feb-11-11 06:50 PM |
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Does that mean they have tired |
DeadEyeDyck |
Feb-11-11 09:21 PM |
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yet the Code of Hammurabi was written in 3 languages & pre-dates the 10 |
StarsInHerHair |
Feb-11-11 09:55 PM |
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Unrec: Seems like a European Conservative memo going around. 1st Merkel, 2nd Cameron & now Sarkozy |
Turborama |
Feb-11-11 11:34 PM |
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The fact that these three are coming out on the issue makes me suspect some kind of EU... |
JVS |
Feb-13-11 02:34 PM |
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He's Correct |
SquireJons |
Feb-11-11 11:55 PM |
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There are countries all over South America, Asia and Africa that are full of different cultures |
Turborama |
Feb-11-11 11:59 PM |
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South America??? |
saras |
Feb-12-11 02:33 AM |
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You're conflating ^race^ with *culture*. As is everyone else replying to me, it seems. |
Turborama |
Feb-12-11 08:32 AM |
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Semantics? |
SquireJons |
Feb-12-11 11:13 PM |
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Whoever replied to this is Ignored so I can't read what you wrote and quite frankly don't care |
Turborama |
Feb-14-11 02:00 AM |
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To be honest, you appear to have just lost this argument |
muriel_volestrangler |
Feb-15-11 02:34 PM |
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Feb-12-11 03:13 AM |
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Tom Tancredo (speaking at CPAC) would agree. |
pampango |
Feb-12-11 04:51 AM |
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"...Democrats would drop their support of immigration |
xxqqqzme |
Feb-12-11 05:26 PM |
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This is because they treat their migrant workers |
Moral_Imagination |
Feb-12-11 04:26 AM |
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Hardly surprising. |
CJvR |
Feb-12-11 04:43 AM |
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Horseshit. |
sudopod |
Feb-12-11 11:48 AM |
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Melting Pot: About the only thing I agree with Sarkozy about |
panzerfaust |
Feb-12-11 06:45 AM |
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"why move to another country with a different culture, different values, and a different language?" |
pampango |
Feb-12-11 07:14 AM |
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Excellent points |
LeftishBrit |
Feb-12-11 12:05 PM |
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Vive la France! |
SquireJons |
Feb-13-11 01:04 AM |
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It's a bunch of garbage. Multiculturalism has always worked in the US. |
Dash87 |
Feb-12-11 07:45 AM |
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I have to... |
CJvR |
Feb-12-11 08:02 AM |
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It's called acculturation and it works in both directions |
LanternWaste |
Feb-15-11 02:39 PM |
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Watch the vast majority of Sarkozy apologists ignore American Mormon and Amish. |
closeupready |
Feb-12-11 09:00 AM |
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Mormons? Amish? |
SquireJons |
Feb-13-11 01:37 AM |
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Go Sarkozy! |
Rage for Order |
Feb-12-11 09:12 AM |
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Have you ever read a US history book? |
sudopod |
Feb-12-11 12:05 PM |
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Given the simplemindedness on display, not likely. |
closeupready |
Feb-12-11 12:09 PM |
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Feb-13-11 10:22 AM |
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I've definitely got a rage. |
sudopod |
Feb-12-11 12:05 PM |
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People like Sarkozy and Cameron play on the ambiguity of words like 'multiculturalism' |
LeftishBrit |
Feb-12-11 12:00 PM |
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Well said. |
sudopod |
Feb-12-11 12:06 PM |
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agreed. i think the new form of racism and most other bigotry |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Feb-12-11 12:40 PM |
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why |
MikeW |
Feb-13-11 11:21 AM |
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i understand four languages. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-14-11 01:58 AM |
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Feb-12-11 01:58 PM |
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Citoyens do something. Get that buffoon off the stage! Merci en avance. n/t |
Catherina |
Feb-13-11 08:15 AM |
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people are blowing this out of proportion |
MikeW |
Feb-13-11 09:16 AM |
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people are viewing this too simplistically. immigrants are never beyond the law |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Feb-13-11 09:54 AM |
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my post wasnt about 1 culture |
MikeW |
Feb-13-11 11:20 AM |
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Tell that to the English expats who've been moving over & Anglicizing areas of France for decades |
Turborama |
Feb-13-11 10:44 PM |
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"Britan and France have serious issues with immigrants setting up shop" LMFAO! |
Turborama |
Feb-14-11 02:13 AM |
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... says the Hungarian who rules France. |
JVS |
Feb-13-11 12:55 PM |
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correction |
MikeW |
Feb-13-11 12:59 PM |
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These denounciations really seem rooted in the fear of Islamic culture. |
roamer65 |
Feb-13-11 06:17 PM |
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I ate at a Polish restaurant yesterday. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-14-11 01:51 AM |
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It would seem Sarkozy fears other cultures and andtradtions almost as much as... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-15-11 02:41 PM |
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Monoculturism hasn't done so well either, dipshit. nt |
bemildred |
Feb-15-11 03:08 PM |
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