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20. No, that's not it - France has failed its own ideals of 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity'.
But, not really. Sarkozy is just full of crap, spouting nonsense again. :mad:
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  -Multiculturalism has failed, says French president onehandle  Feb-11-11 08:34 AM   #0 
  - Multiculturalism in the US has mostly been successful. nt  ZombieHorde   Feb-11-11 08:40 AM   #1 
  - "mostly" is the key phrase  architect359   Feb-11-11 08:48 AM   #4 
  - So which Native American tribe do you belong to?  greiner3   Feb-11-11 09:59 AM   #13 
  - Unlike the European countries,  Moral_Imagination   Feb-12-11 04:30 AM   #39 
  - Our Constitution guarantees certain basic rights.  JDPriestly   Feb-11-11 10:07 AM   #15 
  - Not really.  The Backlash Cometh   Feb-11-11 10:54 AM   #17 
  - As long as you exclude upstate NY  NeoConsSuck   Feb-12-11 07:50 PM   #65 
  - The French President has failed multiculturalism! n / t  Paranoid Pessimist   Feb-13-11 02:39 PM   #79 
  - French president has failed, say people of many cultures n/t  VWolf   Feb-11-11 08:41 AM   #2 
  - agreed.  krabigirl   Feb-11-11 06:09 PM   #25 
  - oui, c'est vire  bajamary   Feb-11-11 08:41 PM   #28 
  - Sarkozy: "Oh, It's just too hard!!!"  gtar100   Feb-13-11 05:33 PM   #80 
  - Says a right wing blowhole  AnOhioan   Feb-11-11 08:46 AM   #3 
  - Says yet ANOTHER right-wing blowhole  KamaAina   Feb-13-11 01:17 PM   #77 
  - delete... dupe  WilmywoodNCparalegal   Feb-11-11 08:50 AM   #5 
  - To a certain extent, I agree with Sarkozy  WilmywoodNCparalegal   Feb-11-11 08:50 AM   #6 
  - And the 'Land of the Free;'  greiner3   Feb-11-11 10:01 AM   #14 
  - I'll give an example of where the USA did not go for multiculturalism: polygamy  muriel_volestrangler   Feb-15-11 02:18 PM   #87 
  - +1  WatsonT   Feb-11-11 10:41 AM   #16 
  - But that's obviously not the sense in which he meant it.  sudopod   Feb-12-11 12:09 PM   #58 
  - 'joining a growing number of world leaders or ex-leaders who have condemned it'  marmar   Feb-11-11 08:50 AM   #7 
  - ususally when numerous world leaders condemn something, it's pretty beneficial  MisterP   Feb-11-11 11:23 PM   #31 
  - Yep, see post below for exact same headline with different conservative names attached...  Turborama   Feb-11-11 11:41 PM   #33 
  - Wonder if he's still kicking Roma Gypsies out of France?  BenzoDia   Feb-11-11 08:51 AM   #8 
  - yep.  krabigirl   Feb-11-11 06:11 PM   #26 
  - How would he know? France is notoriously defensive of its native culture.  DirkGently   Feb-11-11 08:54 AM   #9 
  - rench far right praises British PM for attacking multiculturalism and immigration  pampango   Feb-11-11 08:59 AM   #10 
  - Gee. Are Sarkozy's poll ratings still in the "Cheney zone"...?  regnaD kciN   Feb-11-11 09:01 AM   #11 
  - It's easy to say that when you never even tried.  nyy1998   Feb-11-11 09:11 AM   #12 
  - Like colonialism failed?  muntrv   Feb-11-11 12:11 PM   #18 
  - Bingo. France would not have so many Muslim immigrants if they had not spent hundreds of years...  Ash_F   Feb-12-11 02:39 PM   #62 
  - Multiculturalism in Canada seems successful.  provis99   Feb-11-11 03:10 PM   #19 
  - Not to the Qubcois it does not  panzerfaust   Feb-12-11 07:03 AM   #44 
  - It would not surprise me one bit.  amandabeech   Feb-12-11 03:10 PM   #63 
  - Indeed, multiculturalism is enshrined in their constitution.  pampango   Feb-12-11 07:17 AM   #46 
  - No, that's not it - France has failed its own ideals of 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity'.  closeupready   Feb-11-11 03:37 PM   #20 
  - Well, Sarkozy has most definitely failed!  LeftishBrit   Feb-11-11 05:03 PM   #21 
  - Fuck you Sarko. Your rich friends brought muslims to europe to exploit the cheap labor  conspirator   Feb-11-11 05:44 PM   #22 
  - ironic coming from a Hungarian-Greek Jew who rose to become president of France  stockholmer   Feb-11-11 05:55 PM   #23 
  - by accepting the culture and values of France  panzerfaust   Feb-12-11 06:56 AM   #43 
     - Americans used to say the same thing about Catholics...  LanternWaste   Feb-15-11 02:52 PM   #91 
  - no, Sarkozy has failed. Hoping a socialist will best him in 2012. fascist scum.  krabigirl   Feb-11-11 06:09 PM   #24 
  - as always with the closet fascists - the age-old false-equivalence stunt.  marasinghe   Feb-11-11 06:50 PM   #27 
  - Does that mean they have tired  DeadEyeDyck   Feb-11-11 09:21 PM   #29 
  - yet the Code of Hammurabi was written in 3 languages & pre-dates the 10  StarsInHerHair   Feb-11-11 09:55 PM   #30 
  - Unrec: Seems like a European Conservative memo going around. 1st Merkel, 2nd Cameron & now Sarkozy  Turborama   Feb-11-11 11:34 PM   #32 
  - The fact that these three are coming out on the issue makes me suspect some kind of EU...  JVS   Feb-13-11 02:34 PM   #78 
  - He's Correct  SquireJons   Feb-11-11 11:55 PM   #34 
  - There are countries all over South America, Asia and Africa that are full of different cultures  Turborama   Feb-11-11 11:59 PM   #35 
  - South America???  saras   Feb-12-11 02:33 AM   #36 
  - You're conflating ^race^ with *culture*. As is everyone else replying to me, it seems.  Turborama   Feb-12-11 08:32 AM   #49 
     - Semantics?  SquireJons   Feb-12-11 11:13 PM   #66 
     - Whoever replied to this is Ignored so I can't read what you wrote and quite frankly don't care  Turborama   Feb-14-11 02:00 AM   #85 
        - To be honest, you appear to have just lost this argument  muriel_volestrangler   Feb-15-11 02:34 PM   #88 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-12-11 03:13 AM   #37 
  - Tom Tancredo (speaking at CPAC) would agree.  pampango   Feb-12-11 04:51 AM   #41 
     - "...Democrats would drop their support of immigration  xxqqqzme   Feb-12-11 05:26 PM   #64 
  - This is because they treat their migrant workers  Moral_Imagination   Feb-12-11 04:26 AM   #38 
  - Hardly surprising.  CJvR   Feb-12-11 04:43 AM   #40 
  - Horseshit.  sudopod   Feb-12-11 11:48 AM   #52 
  - Melting Pot: About the only thing I agree with Sarkozy about  panzerfaust   Feb-12-11 06:45 AM   #42 
  - "why move to another country with a different culture, different values, and a different language?"  pampango   Feb-12-11 07:14 AM   #45 
  - Excellent points  LeftishBrit   Feb-12-11 12:05 PM   #56 
  - Vive la France!  SquireJons   Feb-13-11 01:04 AM   #67 
  - It's a bunch of garbage. Multiculturalism has always worked in the US.  Dash87   Feb-12-11 07:45 AM   #47 
  - I have to...  CJvR   Feb-12-11 08:02 AM   #48 
     - It's called acculturation and it works in both directions  LanternWaste   Feb-15-11 02:39 PM   #89 
  - Watch the vast majority of Sarkozy apologists ignore American Mormon and Amish.  closeupready   Feb-12-11 09:00 AM   #50 
  - Mormons? Amish?  SquireJons   Feb-13-11 01:37 AM   #68 
  - Go Sarkozy!  Rage for Order   Feb-12-11 09:12 AM   #51 
  - Have you ever read a US history book?  sudopod   Feb-12-11 12:05 PM   #54 
  - Given the simplemindedness on display, not likely.  closeupready   Feb-12-11 12:09 PM   #59 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-13-11 10:22 AM   #72 
  - I've definitely got a rage.  sudopod   Feb-12-11 12:05 PM   #55 
  - People like Sarkozy and Cameron play on the ambiguity of words like 'multiculturalism'  LeftishBrit   Feb-12-11 12:00 PM   #53 
  - Well said.  sudopod   Feb-12-11 12:06 PM   #57 
  - agreed. i think the new form of racism and most other bigotry  La Lioness Priyanka   Feb-12-11 12:40 PM   #60 
     - why  MikeW   Feb-13-11 11:21 AM   #74 
        - i understand four languages.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-14-11 01:58 AM   #84 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-12-11 01:58 PM   #61 
  - Citoyens do something. Get that buffoon off the stage! Merci en avance. n/t  Catherina   Feb-13-11 08:15 AM   #69 
  - people are blowing this out of proportion  MikeW   Feb-13-11 09:16 AM   #70 
  - people are viewing this too simplistically. immigrants are never beyond the law  La Lioness Priyanka   Feb-13-11 09:54 AM   #71 
  - my post wasnt about 1 culture  MikeW   Feb-13-11 11:20 AM   #73 
     - Tell that to the English expats who've been moving over & Anglicizing areas of France for decades  Turborama   Feb-13-11 10:44 PM   #82 
  - "Britan and France have serious issues with immigrants setting up shop" LMFAO!  Turborama   Feb-14-11 02:13 AM   #86 
  - ... says the Hungarian who rules France.  JVS   Feb-13-11 12:55 PM   #75 
  - correction  MikeW   Feb-13-11 12:59 PM   #76 
  - These denounciations really seem rooted in the fear of Islamic culture.  roamer65   Feb-13-11 06:17 PM   #81 
  - I ate at a Polish restaurant yesterday.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-14-11 01:51 AM   #83 
  - It would seem Sarkozy fears other cultures and andtradtions almost as much as...  LanternWaste   Feb-15-11 02:41 PM   #90 
  - Monoculturism hasn't done so well either, dipshit. nt  bemildred   Feb-15-11 03:08 PM   #92 
 

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