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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #61
64. yes, he authorizes changes n/t
Edited on Sun Feb-06-11 09:18 PM by reorg
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  -Cuba seeks 20-year jail term for detained American Zorro  Feb-04-11 11:30 PM   #0 
  - "Unlawful satellite internet links" = 20 years in prison.  boppers   Feb-04-11 11:35 PM   #1 
  - But but but, they're defying the evil American imperialist running dogs!  TheWraith   Feb-05-11 12:42 AM   #2 
  - ..and they have freedom of the press!*  boppers   Feb-05-11 01:31 AM   #4 
  - I agree it is too harsh, but the same can happen in the US. Even life sentences are possible.  Ash_F   Feb-05-11 02:14 AM   #7 
     - Well put, Ash_F.  Ghost Dog   Feb-05-11 02:50 AM   #8 
     - Thank you.  Ash_F   Feb-05-11 02:53 AM   #9 
     - What people in the US are serving life sentences for connecting somebody to the internet?  boppers   Feb-05-11 04:51 AM   #11 
     - That is not what he is being accused of.  Ash_F   Feb-06-11 10:17 AM   #46 
        - The Cuban state is using Castro's blueprint to the tee.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 07:24 PM   #54 
        - OK, I am new to this board. But I am guessing responding to one-liners is pointless?  Ash_F   Feb-07-11 06:10 PM   #90 
           - It's insulting you don't think I am aware of that side of the story.  joshcryer   Feb-08-11 10:23 AM   #94 
              - You seem pretty preoccupied with the concept of Anarchy.  Ash_F   Feb-08-11 07:37 PM   #95 
        - And just so we're clear, that blueprint says "free communication" = "terrorism."  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 07:27 PM   #55 
     - I'm not going to Cuba, that's for sure  social_critic   Feb-05-11 09:04 AM   #16 
     - Evidently ?  dipsydoodle   Feb-05-11 10:45 AM   #17 
     - Cuba could use a revolution.  boppers   Feb-05-11 10:04 PM   #21 
     - The Cuban military runs the country and is roughly 10% the population including reservists.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 04:06 AM   #36 
     - Yeah, Egypt had it's own revolution too,in 1956.  sufrommich   Feb-05-11 10:14 PM   #23 
     - Dipsy, Cuba's revolution is ancient history - today Castroite Dictatorship is the establishment  social_critic   Feb-06-11 09:15 PM   #62 
        - I think they're waiting for Castro to die so they don't break his heart.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 10:47 PM   #70 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-05-11 10:57 AM   #18 
     - 20 years to life for setting up internet links in the US?  boppers   Feb-05-11 10:05 PM   #22 
     - Your viewpoint is clearly biased.  ronnie624   Feb-06-11 12:48 AM   #32 
        - "foreign agents attempting to secretly promote a political cause in the United States"  boppers   Feb-06-11 01:03 AM   #33 
        - Foreign lobbyist must be registered with the Department of Justice,  ronnie624   Feb-06-11 01:13 AM   #35 
        - Yeah, register with a government.  boppers   Feb-06-11 05:38 AM   #42 
        - And wikileaks...  LanternWaste   Feb-07-11 03:33 PM   #83 
        - Yeah, and the anarchists who got repressed by Castro's regime got funds from American's.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 04:19 AM   #37 
           - So?  boppers   Feb-06-11 05:39 AM   #43 
              - Why, nothing, of course.  ronnie624   Feb-06-11 09:45 AM   #45 
              - I was talking about the American anarchists, not the US government.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 07:20 PM   #53 
              - I actually agree with sending aid to comrades overseas.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 07:20 PM   #52 
     - So Cuba views the jews there as a terrorist organization?  sufrommich   Feb-05-11 10:24 PM   #26 
        - That is a disgusting thing to say. See my second reply to Boppers for more on the situation.  Ash_F   Feb-06-11 10:30 AM   #47 
  - If there is a trial, it will only be for show.  NaturalHigh   Feb-05-11 01:30 AM   #3 
  - Well, the Castro regime did do good things for:  boppers   Feb-05-11 01:37 AM   #5 
  - Seriously, they should just let him die uncharged in custody like America does it.  EFerrari   Feb-05-11 01:49 AM   #6 
     - One does not have to support either. nt  sufrommich   Feb-05-11 10:15 PM   #24 
     - I have no problem with Cuba or any other country in this hemisphere  EFerrari   Feb-05-11 10:48 PM   #27 
        - Giving people the hardware to connect to the internet is not  sufrommich   Feb-05-11 10:52 PM   #28 
           - After blocking net access for Cuba, it's not possible for State to claim  EFerrari   Feb-05-11 10:57 PM   #29 
              - The US is not blocking Cuba from accessing the internet. nt  sufrommich   Feb-05-11 11:15 PM   #30 
                 - Yes, it is. It has refused to allow access to a cable near Cuba.  EFerrari   Feb-05-11 11:30 PM   #31 
                    - That is incorrect, "Cuban Democracy Act of 1992" explicitly *permits* internet.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 04:44 AM   #41 
                       - Very interesting. But Castro knows that the day Cubans are able to freely  msanthrope   Feb-06-11 10:57 AM   #48 
                       - Exactly. Right now I can go outside with a sign that says "Down with Republicans!"  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 07:11 PM   #50 
                       - That is incorrect, the "Cuban Democracy Act of 1992" doesn't mention the internet  reorg   Feb-06-11 08:13 PM   #56 
                          - It certainly did cover it. Cuba doesn't want it from the US.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 09:00 PM   #57 
                          - How do you know?  reorg   Feb-06-11 09:14 PM   #60 
                             - You just proved it for me.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 09:16 PM   #63 
                             - empty blather n/t  reorg   Feb-06-11 09:17 PM   #65 
                                - Cuban Democracy Act of 1992  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 10:23 PM   #68 
                                   - How immensely generous  reorg   Feb-07-11 01:12 AM   #73 
                                      - Yes. which is why Gross is going to jail the rest of his life. He was in under the guise of USAID.  joshcryer   Feb-07-11 03:21 AM   #75 
                                         - According to your logic, Chavez will soon be imprisoned in Cuba n/t  reorg   Feb-07-11 04:02 PM   #86 
                             - Just because the Castroian government claims it was restrained from having internet...  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 10:32 PM   #69 
                                - Google for info on how the US blocked a signed agreement to lay internet cable from FL to Cuba nt  flamingdem   Feb-07-11 12:32 PM   #81 
                                   - Still looking but I found this:  joshcryer   Feb-07-11 03:25 PM   #82 
                                      - Really, really alarming  reorg   Feb-07-11 04:01 PM   #85 
                          - I did not say it "mentioned the internet" I said it permitted it. Big difference.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 09:02 PM   #58 
                             - you said it "explicitly" permits, but it doesn't  reorg   Feb-06-11 09:11 PM   #59 
                                - Obama is not "permitting" anything, he's authorizing.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 09:14 PM   #61 
                                   - yes, he authorizes changes n/t  reorg   Feb-06-11 09:16 PM   #64 
                                   - Yes, additions, not permission.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 10:17 PM   #67 
                                      - Obama initiated some changes in US policy towards Cuba  reorg   Feb-07-11 01:07 AM   #72 
                                         - You're still missing the point, the US would have happily given Cuba access if Cuba asked.  joshcryer   Feb-07-11 03:16 AM   #74 
                                            - So why don't you stick to the point  reorg   Feb-07-11 04:29 PM   #87 
                                               - US permits access if authorized. US had not authorized because Cuba didn't ask.  joshcryer   Feb-07-11 04:37 PM   #88 
     - Yeah!  JVS   Feb-08-11 07:44 AM   #93 
  - Its the same penalty  dipsydoodle   Feb-05-11 03:40 AM   #10 
  - "for the avoidance of doubt the full list accompanies entry slip application forms."  boppers   Feb-05-11 04:56 AM   #12 
     - It would make sense if you'd been there  dipsydoodle   Feb-05-11 05:14 AM   #13 
        - I'm going to go somewhere where internet access is regulated? Uh, no.  boppers   Feb-05-11 09:28 PM   #20 
        - Foreign tourists have plenty of free access to internet. The plebs can't use it though.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 04:21 AM   #38 
        - "any item - including literature- attempting against the security and internal order of the country"  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 04:23 AM   #39 
           - The sad part is "socialists" who hate property.  boppers   Feb-06-11 05:47 AM   #44 
              - The anarchists view state owned property as capitalist, though.  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 07:16 PM   #51 
  - I think you aware  dipsydoodle   Feb-05-11 05:24 AM   #14 
  - Man, hard to believe they wouldn't fess up after seeing Gross  sufrommich   Feb-05-11 10:18 PM   #25 
     - US Jewish groups with ties to Cuba are progressive, Gross is right wing  flamingdem   Feb-06-11 01:04 AM   #34 
        - "Gross is right wing" lol, link? nt  sufrommich   Feb-06-11 11:03 AM   #49 
           - He works as an agent of an imperialist power  ronnie624   Feb-06-11 11:38 PM   #71 
              - Um, the best progressives work to undermine totalitarian regimes.  joshcryer   Feb-07-11 03:22 AM   #76 
              - I assume you were against Che working in Congo and Bolivia, btw?  joshcryer   Feb-07-11 03:33 AM   #77 
                 - I didn't have much of an opinion on such things as a small child.  ronnie624   Feb-07-11 10:35 AM   #79 
                    - I'm not particularly fond of Che (I think he had a death wish and did things haphazardly).  joshcryer   Feb-07-11 03:36 PM   #84 
                    - Here's an example of *individuals* helping bloggers in Cuba:  joshcryer   Feb-08-11 03:45 AM   #92 
  - Actual wording was  dipsydoodle   Feb-05-11 07:02 AM   #15 
  - Treason is 5 years minimum up to death. Trials for treason are extremely rare, and convictions are..  joshcryer   Feb-06-11 04:33 AM   #40 
  - The solution is EASY. Release the Cuban Five  flamingdem   Feb-05-11 11:06 AM   #19 
  - So it's done to get a prisoner exchange  social_critic   Feb-06-11 09:19 PM   #66 
  - No. Just stating the obvious. By the way were you born in Cuba? nt  flamingdem   Feb-07-11 12:24 PM   #80 
  - I suspect that is the Plan of the Cuban Government  happyslug   Feb-07-11 11:23 PM   #91 
  - Video shows Cuban fears of Internet, social media  Zorro   Feb-07-11 09:30 AM   #78 
     - Saw that.  joshcryer   Feb-07-11 04:53 PM   #89 

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