joshcryer
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Sun Feb-06-11 04:33 AM
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| 40. Treason is 5 years minimum up to death. Trials for treason are extremely rare, and convictions are.. |
| -Cuba seeks 20-year jail term for detained American |
Zorro |
Feb-04-11 11:30 PM |
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"Unlawful satellite internet links" = 20 years in prison. |
boppers |
Feb-04-11 11:35 PM |
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But but but, they're defying the evil American imperialist running dogs! |
TheWraith |
Feb-05-11 12:42 AM |
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..and they have freedom of the press!* |
boppers |
Feb-05-11 01:31 AM |
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I agree it is too harsh, but the same can happen in the US. Even life sentences are possible. |
Ash_F |
Feb-05-11 02:14 AM |
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Well put, Ash_F. |
Ghost Dog |
Feb-05-11 02:50 AM |
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Thank you. |
Ash_F |
Feb-05-11 02:53 AM |
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What people in the US are serving life sentences for connecting somebody to the internet? |
boppers |
Feb-05-11 04:51 AM |
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That is not what he is being accused of. |
Ash_F |
Feb-06-11 10:17 AM |
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The Cuban state is using Castro's blueprint to the tee. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 07:24 PM |
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OK, I am new to this board. But I am guessing responding to one-liners is pointless? |
Ash_F |
Feb-07-11 06:10 PM |
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It's insulting you don't think I am aware of that side of the story. |
joshcryer |
Feb-08-11 10:23 AM |
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You seem pretty preoccupied with the concept of Anarchy. |
Ash_F |
Feb-08-11 07:37 PM |
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And just so we're clear, that blueprint says "free communication" = "terrorism." |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 07:27 PM |
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I'm not going to Cuba, that's for sure |
social_critic |
Feb-05-11 09:04 AM |
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Evidently ? |
dipsydoodle |
Feb-05-11 10:45 AM |
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Cuba could use a revolution. |
boppers |
Feb-05-11 10:04 PM |
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The Cuban military runs the country and is roughly 10% the population including reservists. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 04:06 AM |
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Yeah, Egypt had it's own revolution too,in 1956. |
sufrommich |
Feb-05-11 10:14 PM |
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Dipsy, Cuba's revolution is ancient history - today Castroite Dictatorship is the establishment |
social_critic |
Feb-06-11 09:15 PM |
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I think they're waiting for Castro to die so they don't break his heart. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 10:47 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Feb-05-11 10:57 AM |
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20 years to life for setting up internet links in the US? |
boppers |
Feb-05-11 10:05 PM |
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Your viewpoint is clearly biased. |
ronnie624 |
Feb-06-11 12:48 AM |
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"foreign agents attempting to secretly promote a political cause in the United States" |
boppers |
Feb-06-11 01:03 AM |
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Foreign lobbyist must be registered with the Department of Justice, |
ronnie624 |
Feb-06-11 01:13 AM |
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Yeah, register with a government. |
boppers |
Feb-06-11 05:38 AM |
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And wikileaks... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-07-11 03:33 PM |
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Yeah, and the anarchists who got repressed by Castro's regime got funds from American's. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 04:19 AM |
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So? |
boppers |
Feb-06-11 05:39 AM |
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Why, nothing, of course. |
ronnie624 |
Feb-06-11 09:45 AM |
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I was talking about the American anarchists, not the US government. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 07:20 PM |
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I actually agree with sending aid to comrades overseas. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 07:20 PM |
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So Cuba views the jews there as a terrorist organization? |
sufrommich |
Feb-05-11 10:24 PM |
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That is a disgusting thing to say. See my second reply to Boppers for more on the situation. |
Ash_F |
Feb-06-11 10:30 AM |
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If there is a trial, it will only be for show. |
NaturalHigh |
Feb-05-11 01:30 AM |
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Well, the Castro regime did do good things for: |
boppers |
Feb-05-11 01:37 AM |
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Seriously, they should just let him die uncharged in custody like America does it. |
EFerrari |
Feb-05-11 01:49 AM |
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One does not have to support either. nt |
sufrommich |
Feb-05-11 10:15 PM |
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I have no problem with Cuba or any other country in this hemisphere |
EFerrari |
Feb-05-11 10:48 PM |
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Giving people the hardware to connect to the internet is not |
sufrommich |
Feb-05-11 10:52 PM |
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After blocking net access for Cuba, it's not possible for State to claim |
EFerrari |
Feb-05-11 10:57 PM |
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The US is not blocking Cuba from accessing the internet. nt |
sufrommich |
Feb-05-11 11:15 PM |
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Yes, it is. It has refused to allow access to a cable near Cuba. |
EFerrari |
Feb-05-11 11:30 PM |
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That is incorrect, "Cuban Democracy Act of 1992" explicitly *permits* internet. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 04:44 AM |
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Very interesting. But Castro knows that the day Cubans are able to freely |
msanthrope |
Feb-06-11 10:57 AM |
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Exactly. Right now I can go outside with a sign that says "Down with Republicans!" |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 07:11 PM |
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That is incorrect, the "Cuban Democracy Act of 1992" doesn't mention the internet |
reorg |
Feb-06-11 08:13 PM |
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It certainly did cover it. Cuba doesn't want it from the US. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 09:00 PM |
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How do you know? |
reorg |
Feb-06-11 09:14 PM |
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You just proved it for me. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 09:16 PM |
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empty blather n/t |
reorg |
Feb-06-11 09:17 PM |
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Cuban Democracy Act of 1992 |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 10:23 PM |
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How immensely generous |
reorg |
Feb-07-11 01:12 AM |
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Yes. which is why Gross is going to jail the rest of his life. He was in under the guise of USAID. |
joshcryer |
Feb-07-11 03:21 AM |
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According to your logic, Chavez will soon be imprisoned in Cuba n/t |
reorg |
Feb-07-11 04:02 PM |
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Just because the Castroian government claims it was restrained from having internet... |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 10:32 PM |
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Google for info on how the US blocked a signed agreement to lay internet cable from FL to Cuba nt |
flamingdem |
Feb-07-11 12:32 PM |
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Still looking but I found this: |
joshcryer |
Feb-07-11 03:25 PM |
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Really, really alarming |
reorg |
Feb-07-11 04:01 PM |
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I did not say it "mentioned the internet" I said it permitted it. Big difference. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 09:02 PM |
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you said it "explicitly" permits, but it doesn't |
reorg |
Feb-06-11 09:11 PM |
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Obama is not "permitting" anything, he's authorizing. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 09:14 PM |
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yes, he authorizes changes n/t |
reorg |
Feb-06-11 09:16 PM |
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Yes, additions, not permission. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 10:17 PM |
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Obama initiated some changes in US policy towards Cuba |
reorg |
Feb-07-11 01:07 AM |
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You're still missing the point, the US would have happily given Cuba access if Cuba asked. |
joshcryer |
Feb-07-11 03:16 AM |
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So why don't you stick to the point |
reorg |
Feb-07-11 04:29 PM |
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US permits access if authorized. US had not authorized because Cuba didn't ask. |
joshcryer |
Feb-07-11 04:37 PM |
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Yeah! |
JVS |
Feb-08-11 07:44 AM |
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Its the same penalty |
dipsydoodle |
Feb-05-11 03:40 AM |
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"for the avoidance of doubt the full list accompanies entry slip application forms." |
boppers |
Feb-05-11 04:56 AM |
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It would make sense if you'd been there |
dipsydoodle |
Feb-05-11 05:14 AM |
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I'm going to go somewhere where internet access is regulated? Uh, no. |
boppers |
Feb-05-11 09:28 PM |
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Foreign tourists have plenty of free access to internet. The plebs can't use it though. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 04:21 AM |
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"any item - including literature- attempting against the security and internal order of the country" |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 04:23 AM |
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The sad part is "socialists" who hate property. |
boppers |
Feb-06-11 05:47 AM |
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The anarchists view state owned property as capitalist, though. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 07:16 PM |
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I think you aware |
dipsydoodle |
Feb-05-11 05:24 AM |
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Man, hard to believe they wouldn't fess up after seeing Gross |
sufrommich |
Feb-05-11 10:18 PM |
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US Jewish groups with ties to Cuba are progressive, Gross is right wing |
flamingdem |
Feb-06-11 01:04 AM |
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"Gross is right wing" lol, link? nt |
sufrommich |
Feb-06-11 11:03 AM |
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He works as an agent of an imperialist power |
ronnie624 |
Feb-06-11 11:38 PM |
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Um, the best progressives work to undermine totalitarian regimes. |
joshcryer |
Feb-07-11 03:22 AM |
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I assume you were against Che working in Congo and Bolivia, btw? |
joshcryer |
Feb-07-11 03:33 AM |
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I didn't have much of an opinion on such things as a small child. |
ronnie624 |
Feb-07-11 10:35 AM |
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I'm not particularly fond of Che (I think he had a death wish and did things haphazardly). |
joshcryer |
Feb-07-11 03:36 PM |
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Here's an example of *individuals* helping bloggers in Cuba: |
joshcryer |
Feb-08-11 03:45 AM |
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Actual wording was |
dipsydoodle |
Feb-05-11 07:02 AM |
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Treason is 5 years minimum up to death. Trials for treason are extremely rare, and convictions are.. |
joshcryer |
Feb-06-11 04:33 AM |
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The solution is EASY. Release the Cuban Five |
flamingdem |
Feb-05-11 11:06 AM |
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So it's done to get a prisoner exchange |
social_critic |
Feb-06-11 09:19 PM |
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No. Just stating the obvious. By the way were you born in Cuba? nt |
flamingdem |
Feb-07-11 12:24 PM |
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I suspect that is the Plan of the Cuban Government |
happyslug |
Feb-07-11 11:23 PM |
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Video shows Cuban fears of Internet, social media |
Zorro |
Feb-07-11 09:30 AM |
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Saw that. |
joshcryer |
Feb-07-11 04:53 PM |
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