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11. Fla. judge strikes down health overhaul
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The Associated Press
Monday, January 31, 2011; 3:10 PM



PENSACOLA, Fla. -- A federal judge in Florida says the Obama administration's health overhaul is unconstitutional, siding with 26 states that had sued to block it.

U.S. District Judge Roger Vinson on Monday accepted without trial the states' argument that the new law violates people's rights by forcing them to buy health insurance by 2014 or face penalties.

Attorneys for the administration had argued that the states did not have standing to challenge the law and that the case should be dismissed.

The case is likely to go to the U.S. Supreme Court. Two other federal judges have upheld the insurance requirement, but a federal judge in Virginia also ruled the insurance requirement unconstitutional.
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  -BREAKING: Florida judge strikes down parts of health care reform gauguin57  Jan-31-11 02:06 PM   #0 
  - I wonder the name of the judge, the county...Lousy reporting by CNN...  monmouth   Jan-31-11 02:08 PM   #1 
  - Slate has more information on it...  Dave From Canada   Jan-31-11 02:10 PM   #2 
     - Many thanks...n/t  monmouth   Jan-31-11 04:30 PM   #63 
  - Ah, Florida  texastoast   Jan-31-11 02:10 PM   #3 
  - Nope. We're crazier than Texas.  russspeakeasy   Jan-31-11 02:20 PM   #14 
  - Got more cows too!  BobbyBoring   Jan-31-11 03:05 PM   #49 
     - Probably so  texastoast   Jan-31-11 03:12 PM   #51 
  - Florida elected Rick Scott.. he ripped off $1.9 Billion from medicare  lib2DaBone   Jan-31-11 09:41 PM   #75 
  - The individual mandate was always going to become a SCOTUS issue  Blasphemer   Jan-31-11 02:11 PM   #4 
  - Agree, it was always the most problematic aspect of the bill. nt  alsame   Jan-31-11 02:16 PM   #9 
  - that's what happens when you pass a bill that blatantly hands Americans over  MisterP   Jan-31-11 03:05 PM   #48 
     - Medicare for all  Broderick   Jan-31-11 03:14 PM   #53 
     - I'm gonna grab the barstool next to you  derby378   Jan-31-11 06:45 PM   #72 
     - I agree..  sendero   Feb-01-11 05:55 AM   #82 
        - The majority of the SC are corporate supremacists so I believe they will find a way to uphold  Uncle Joe   Feb-01-11 09:10 AM   #85 
           - That is an interesting point..  sendero   Feb-01-11 11:57 AM   #87 
              - I believe corporate supremacy to be the true dominant dynamic driving American Politics.  Uncle Joe   Feb-01-11 01:58 PM   #88 
                 - Well, I would certainly not disagree..  sendero   Feb-01-11 03:10 PM   #89 
  - I'm sure that'll be on the site in a few minutes ... this was basically the breaking-news bulletin.  gauguin57   Jan-31-11 02:11 PM   #5 
  - A republican judge .... what a surprise  Botany   Jan-31-11 02:11 PM   #6 
  - You're right, it's a shocker, isn't it? Thanks for the link. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jan-31-11 02:32 PM   #17 
  - It will be appealed of course. But the five Republicans in the USSC will have the final say  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-31-11 02:49 PM   #43 
  - This is great  wilt the stilt   Jan-31-11 02:11 PM   #7 
  - one man  warrior1   Jan-31-11 02:14 PM   #8 
     - It won't. It will be 5 evil men.  CLANG   Jan-31-11 06:50 PM   #73 
  - Danged activist judges, legislating from the bench... n/t  madamesilverspurs   Jan-31-11 02:18 PM   #10 
  - Fla. judge strikes down health overhaul  seafan   Jan-31-11 02:19 PM   #11 
  - It's Judge Roger Vinson ... more from AP  gauguin57   Jan-31-11 02:19 PM   #12 
  - Thank you, gauguin57. Not unexpected, as the right-wing will fight like madmen to prevent progress.  Judi Lynn   Jan-31-11 02:19 PM   #13 
  - This means absolutely nothing  LawnLover   Jan-31-11 02:22 PM   #15 
  - Yep. Taxes taken out of each and everyone of our checks to pay for Medicare........  FrenchieCat   Jan-31-11 02:25 PM   #16 
     - I'll mention it  Shrek   Jan-31-11 03:07 PM   #50 
  - So I think I'm gonna sue for the right to not purchase car insurance  LynneSin   Jan-31-11 02:38 PM   #18 
  - The mandate is the problem here.  former9thward   Jan-31-11 02:53 PM   #45 
  - the details matter...  sweetapogee   Jan-31-11 04:35 PM   #64 
  - You are not mandated to buy vehicle coverage  Broderick   Jan-31-11 03:18 PM   #54 
  - Bad analogy. Nobody forces you to buy a car.  Dave From Canada   Jan-31-11 03:27 PM   #56 
  - you don't have to purchase car insurance n/t  pezDispenser   Jan-31-11 04:00 PM   #60 
  - "Letter to the Editor: Repealing health care legislation will do more harm than good"  Judi Lynn   Jan-31-11 02:38 PM   #19 
  - Fdereal Judge rules entire Health Care Reform law to be unconstitutional  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #20 
  - So what follows next -  tabatha   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #21 
  - That would be pretty cool actually  notesdev   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #33 
  - Danged activist judges, legislating from the bench... n/t  madamesilverspurs   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #22 
  - Well put.  BlueDemKev   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #23 
     - Agreed. n/t  ChazII   Jan-31-11 05:37 PM   #67 
  - So...this goes up to the Supreme Court and then...any guesses from there? n/t  LiberalLoner   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #24 
  - It would likely go to the Court of Apperals for that circuit first  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #26 
  - talk about the fashion police!  AngryAmish   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #28 
     - Doh!  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #38 
        - all in good fun, my friend.  AngryAmish   Jan-31-11 02:52 PM   #44 
  - Well if they rule it to be constitutional the righties will be up their asses mad  Drale   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #27 
  - District Judge. It goes to the Appeals Court of that circuit, then  MineralMan   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #25 
  - Thanks, everyone, I have no clue about the judicial process I'm afraid. n/t  LiberalLoner   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #39 
  - Single-payer wouldn't be unconstitutional... would it?  qb   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #29 
  - Medicare is constitutional. A public option would be. (nt)  ehrnst   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #32 
  - That's the way I see it.  Broderick   Jan-31-11 03:20 PM   #55 
  - If it's funded by tax revenue then it  Yupster   Jan-31-11 10:41 PM   #77 
  - "Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire act must be  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #30 
  - The judge clearly has no knowledge of Sarbanes-Oxley  ehrnst   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #31 
  - Except HCR doesn't have a severance clause  Recursion   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #35 
  - Neither did Sarbanes-Oxley  underpants   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #37 
  - without a mandate  sweetapogee   Jan-31-11 04:41 PM   #66 
  - I think Roberts loves Severabality  FogerRox   Feb-01-11 02:15 AM   #81 
  - Dems did put (or Repubs kept out) a severability clause but read the reply to your post below  underpants   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #36 
     - They didn't "remove the need for a severability clause"  FBaggins   Feb-01-11 06:04 AM   #83 
  - If the ruling stands that parts are unconstitutional, and the House refuses to amend it...  tomm2thumbs   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #34 
  - Here's a round up of stories throughout the media:  ehrnst   Jan-31-11 02:44 PM   #40 
  - Reagan's solicitor General says it's constitutional.  savalez   Feb-02-11 01:38 PM   #90 
  - Thank goodness we can still carry guns and the CEOs are wealthy.  digitaln3rd   Jan-31-11 02:48 PM   #41 
  - Citizens having access to affordable healthcare is one thing. Forcing them to BUY a PRIVATE service  Dave From Canada   Jan-31-11 03:28 PM   #58 
  - my healthcare went up again this year  pezDispenser   Jan-31-11 04:04 PM   #61 
  - Florida Judge Roger Vinson Rules Health Care Reform Unconstitutional  Judi Lynn   Jan-31-11 02:48 PM   #42 
  - This Judge is a Reaganite  DreamSmoker   Jan-31-11 02:58 PM   #46 
  - So, does this next go to SCOTUS? n/t  SomeGuyInEagan   Jan-31-11 03:03 PM   #47 
  - No, to the Court of Appeals first  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-31-11 03:27 PM   #57 
     - any idea of the timeframe on that?  pezDispenser   Jan-31-11 04:26 PM   #62 
     - Read this story for info on that  savalez   Jan-31-11 08:42 PM   #74 
     - They could bypass the appellate level and go straight to SCOTUS  kudzu22   Jan-31-11 10:33 PM   #76 
  - Florida.  aquart   Jan-31-11 03:14 PM   #52 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-31-11 03:37 PM   #59 
  - Vinson's math  underpants   Jan-31-11 04:37 PM   #65 
  - Thanks Joe Lieberman!!  Kingofalldems   Jan-31-11 06:13 PM   #68 
  - According to NPR, he struck down the whole act. The plaintifs  MasonJar   Jan-31-11 06:31 PM   #69 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-31-11 06:35 PM   #70 
  - One of the plaintiffs lives  KT2000   Jan-31-11 06:45 PM   #71 
  - Shall we dance the U.S. waltz?  M155Y_A1CH   Jan-31-11 11:14 PM   #78 
  - Right wing activist judge?  Democat   Feb-01-11 01:05 AM   #79 
  - however, many challenges to HCR have been rejected too  alp227   Feb-01-11 01:31 AM   #80 
  - The judge is a tea partier  spinbaby   Feb-01-11 08:29 AM   #84 
  - So, had "we" simply gone with the Public Option  panzerfaust   Feb-01-11 10:26 AM   #86 
 

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