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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 12:57 AM
Response to Reply #101
107. Agreed
We are on the same team for sure.

I was naive enough to think Obama would be an actual change. Seemed to me that a substantively positive change would be quite easy, given the over-the-top nature of the previous regime, so I am totally blown away at how little "they" will let us have.

I won't let Obama off the hook, though, I mean look who he appointed. He could have chosen people who have our interests at heart, even if they aren't able to fully deliver. They would be working in the right direction, and demonstrating the need to elect more reps who support these not-yet-politically-feasible reforms, and bringing the actual needed changes into the public discourse. Even the MSM would have to have discussions on socialized medicine, for example, if Obama had appointed an active advocate of it to, say, head of HHS, instead of a corporatist like Sebelius. His other appointments just further this point. Summers, Geithner, Gates, McChrystal, Petraeus, it goes on and on. These are not the choices of a change president, it's called more of the same. And we really, really needed a change president at this point in time.

Whether you agree with any of that or not, it seems that we're working towards the same reforms, so tip of the hat and good luck in your efforts.
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  -DoJ veteran sees dangerous precedent in letting Bush officials walk derby378  Jan-17-11 11:54 AM   #0 
  - Obama signaled that when he appointed useless AG! n/t  dmosh42   Jan-17-11 11:58 AM   #1 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-17-11 01:03 PM   #14 
  - Holder needs to go  davidinalameda   Jan-17-11 11:59 AM   #2 
  - Then so must the man that put him in the job  Demeter   Jan-17-11 12:02 PM   #4 
  - "THERE'S NOT A DIME'S WORTH OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN................."  pnorman   Jan-17-11 05:34 PM   #54 
  - I had thought no one could top Ashcroft, Gonzales, and Mukasey: I hope that  indepat   Jan-17-11 01:05 PM   #17 
  - Look up "John Mitchell" and "Edwin Meese"  Art_from_Ark   Jan-17-11 06:19 PM   #61 
     - Remember "tits in the ringer" John, Martha, and Ed well as well as John's conviction:  indepat   Jan-17-11 07:07 PM   #65 
        - Mitchell really overstepped his bounds with that remark, didn't he?  Art_from_Ark   Jan-17-11 07:23 PM   #66 
        - John was the epitome of amoral and arrogant arses and Martha was a  indepat   Jan-17-11 07:38 PM   #69 
           - She was indeed a refreshing hoot  Art_from_Ark   Jan-17-11 08:02 PM   #73 
        - That expression always reminds me of a mammogram, and vice versa.  No Elephants   Jan-18-11 02:24 AM   #86 
  - He goes whenever obama wants  ArcticFox   Jan-17-11 10:51 PM   #77 
  - What difference would that make unless the person who  sabrina 1   Jan-18-11 12:28 AM   #83 
  - Sadly,  dotymed   Jan-18-11 07:04 AM   #88 
  - No Kidding  Demeter   Jan-17-11 12:00 PM   #3 
  - I believe one of the earlier drafts of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address  cognoscere   Jan-17-11 02:07 PM   #26 
  - this Government is Absolutely Corrupted  fascisthunter   Jan-17-11 12:07 PM   #5 
  - Hell, if the GOP gets the WH again, they'll prosecute Obama just for being a black man.  HopeHoops   Jan-17-11 12:16 PM   #6 
  - No doubt on that one. They are already looking for charges of any kind.  glinda   Jan-17-11 12:45 PM   #11 
  - Holder and Obama are both African-American  JDPriestly   Jan-17-11 01:12 PM   #20 
  - So was "Uncle Tom".  TheMadMonk   Jan-17-11 07:32 PM   #67 
  - More than  Athena66   Jan-17-11 02:50 PM   #29 
     - welcome to DU  NewJeffCT   Jan-17-11 03:12 PM   #32 
        - Thanks!  Athena66   Jan-17-11 03:40 PM   #35 
           - Welcome to DU!  Carolina   Jan-17-11 07:53 PM   #71 
  - ...  xchrom   Jan-17-11 12:17 PM   #7 
  - We've only been turning blue saying it these last two years.  The Backlash Cometh   Jan-17-11 12:23 PM   #8 
  - +1  Hissyspit   Jan-17-11 03:25 PM   #33 
  - Policy differences.  OnyxCollie   Jan-17-11 12:27 PM   #9 
  - Plus one. nt  Enthusiast   Jan-17-11 05:29 PM   #50 
  - So torture is 'just a policy difference'? Who knew? n/t  sabrina 1   Jan-18-11 12:33 AM   #84 
     - Unfortunately the pursuit of aggressive war is not even a policy difference.  JackRiddler   Jan-18-11 08:59 AM   #92 
  - To be fair,  bvar22   Jan-17-11 12:40 PM   #10 
  - And how did the Repubes  The Wizard   Jan-17-11 01:04 PM   #15 
  - Well, they let him live. nt  valerief   Jan-17-11 02:49 PM   #28 
  - He now has primo T-times with Papa Bush, doesn't he?  liberation   Jan-17-11 04:19 PM   #43 
  - Warren Commission and JFK assassination  Submariner   Jan-17-11 01:43 PM   #22 
  - No question. nt  Enthusiast   Jan-17-11 05:30 PM   #52 
  - For a precedent to be set  avaistheone1   Jan-17-11 02:02 PM   #24 
  - goes back to Nixon at least  jobendorfer   Jan-17-11 03:47 PM   #37 
  - BIN to the GO!  liberation   Jan-17-11 04:16 PM   #40 
  - Rumsfeld was another low-mid level Nixonite  hootinholler   Jan-18-11 08:41 AM   #90 
  - Clinton was not President in 1992. He was sworn in January 1993  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-17-11 04:17 PM   #42 
  - And even further back...but sadly so true, so true  FailureToCommunicate   Jan-17-11 04:41 PM   #45 
  - Yes, Clinton set the precedent and paved the way for Bush Jr.  JackRiddler   Jan-18-11 09:01 AM   #93 
  - +1 re: the OP and every single reply so far  abq e streeter   Jan-17-11 12:52 PM   #12 
  - I agree with him totally. But let the world try them at the hague  goforit   Jan-17-11 12:58 PM   #13 
  - The two tiers of justice...  Paka   Jan-17-11 06:37 PM   #63 
  - Crime Family  JJW   Jan-17-11 01:04 PM   #16 
  - It's nothing new...  smuglysmiling   Jan-17-11 01:07 PM   #18 
  - the relationship between the 2 main parties has too cozy  Rosa Luxemburg   Jan-17-11 03:05 PM   #30 
  - Obama's Justice Department is a bit of a joke.  JDPriestly   Jan-17-11 01:10 PM   #19 
  - Correctamundo. It's almost as big a joke as the "Supreme Court".  cognoscere   Jan-17-11 02:10 PM   #27 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   Jan-17-11 01:26 PM   #21 
  - The "rule of law" depends on your class status. Black or brown the law comes down hard on minor  Citizen Worker   Jan-17-11 01:46 PM   #23 
  - K&R  DeSwiss   Jan-17-11 02:05 PM   #25 
  - Ya think....? Duh!  AlbertCat   Jan-17-11 03:11 PM   #31 
  - Oh, so do I.  aquart   Jan-17-11 03:28 PM   #34 
  - As the Brits piece together the crimes  hulka38   Jan-17-11 03:44 PM   #36 
  - In a class war, would you expect any thing different? Why do you think Bush/Cheney left office so  rhett o rick   Jan-17-11 04:01 PM   #38 
  - But it is so blatant now.  Enthusiast   Jan-17-11 05:33 PM   #53 
     - Seriously, they have no shame. The ruling class is made up of sociopaths.  rhett o rick   Jan-17-11 05:37 PM   #56 
  - Obama is simply following the rules of n-dimensional chess.  liberation   Jan-17-11 04:14 PM   #39 
  - It would appear to me that Eric Holder is the guilty party  russspeakeasy   Jan-17-11 04:17 PM   #41 
  - Obama himself said it was time to "MOVE FORWARD" from Bush-era crimes. nt  Bluebear   Jan-17-11 04:31 PM   #44 
  - Well, then, dammit Bluebear, git bizzzzy and figure out what crimes are being committed in the  bobbolink   Jan-17-11 07:37 PM   #68 
     - lol  Bluebear   Jan-17-11 10:49 PM   #75 
        - It takes one to know one. OK, it takes two.  bobbolink   Jan-18-11 08:43 AM   #91 
  - Obama has directly intervened to protect the Bush War  sabrina 1   Jan-18-11 12:41 AM   #85 
  - Looking forward has it's consequences for the country and Obama  Jefferson23   Jan-17-11 04:59 PM   #46 
  - Looking forward = dereliction of duty. nt  Enthusiast   Jan-17-11 05:35 PM   #55 
     - In this case, absolutely true, pathetic state of affairs. n/t  Jefferson23   Jan-17-11 06:00 PM   #59 
  - This enrages me. Move forward my ass. That whole 9/11 thing was in the past too.  amyrose2712   Jan-17-11 05:09 PM   #47 
  - SHIT! more post-partisan crap. Recommended!  JohnWxy   Jan-17-11 05:25 PM   #48 
  - K&R Very disturbing.  Enthusiast   Jan-17-11 05:25 PM   #49 
  - *ahem*  Capitalocracy   Jan-17-11 05:29 PM   #51 
  - Just moves fascism along a litltle faster when DOJ doesn't address these issues ....  defendandprotect   Jan-17-11 05:39 PM   #57 
  - re: DoJ veteran sees dangerous precedent in letting Bush officials walk  rschop   Jan-17-11 05:41 PM   #58 
  - My earlier prediction was if Obama's DoJ was going to  alfredo   Jan-17-11 06:18 PM   #60 
  - Yes I do!  dreamnightwind   Jan-18-11 06:39 AM   #87 
     - Prosecuting bush would not have created jobs or fixed healthcare.  alfredo   Jan-18-11 02:09 PM   #95 
        - Ridiculous  dreamnightwind   Jan-18-11 09:27 PM   #96 
           - We were in such dire straits I don't blame him for putting  alfredo   Jan-19-11 12:21 AM   #98 
              - Thanks for your reasonable response  dreamnightwind   Jan-19-11 01:22 AM   #100 
                 - By the time Obama took over, the banks already had us  alfredo   Jan-19-11 11:25 AM   #101 
                    - Agreed  dreamnightwind   Jan-20-11 12:57 AM   #107 
                       - I never saw Obama as a Liberal. I remember his first vote  alfredo   Jan-20-11 11:20 AM   #110 
  - Aw, you worry too much. After all, we let Nixon walk  RaleighNCDUer   Jan-17-11 06:30 PM   #62 
  - Obama and the Justice Department are complicit  lovuian   Jan-17-11 07:01 PM   #64 
  - YEP and NOW Obama is complicit  Veracious   Jan-17-11 07:46 PM   #70 
  - I am disappointed that Dick Cheney is going to die a free man  LawnKorn   Jan-17-11 07:54 PM   #72 
  - Disappointed doesn't begin to touch it. Travesty of justice. n/t  JudyM   Jan-17-11 10:49 PM   #76 
  - It Will Be Obama's ONLY Legacy  Senator   Jan-17-11 10:07 PM   #74 
  - Mr Hebert is absolutely correct!  ElsewheresDaughter   Jan-17-11 10:54 PM   #78 
  - LOL.  Robeson   Jan-17-11 11:10 PM   #79 
  - Obama might end up being America's downfall . n/t  orbitalman   Jan-17-11 11:15 PM   #80 
  - K & R  Raksha   Jan-17-11 11:28 PM   #81 
  - Get used to it, folks. This today's Democratic party. The leadership is as corrupt  bertman   Jan-17-11 11:48 PM   #82 
  - More change we can believe in. nt  obxhead   Jan-18-11 07:41 AM   #89 
  - I wrote to the White House months ago  floriduck   Jan-18-11 11:49 AM   #94 
  - Very few still see this as 11-dimensional chess. The rest realize it's a shell game.  Poll_Blind   Jan-18-11 09:41 PM   #97 
  - Yup. Sometimes things are very simple. For example:  JackRiddler   Jan-19-11 01:53 PM   #103 
     - Depresing but I can't find much to disagree with. I have to say, though, that...  Poll_Blind   Jan-19-11 04:53 PM   #105 
     - I think that's mainly a function of how far to the right all the rhetoric has continued to move.  JackRiddler   Jan-19-11 05:04 PM   #106 
     - Wow...  Youth Uprising   Jan-20-11 01:07 AM   #109 
  - why do you think Obama was allowed to win?  yurbud   Jan-19-11 01:17 AM   #99 
  - Bingo!!! Rigged election again and again.  goforit   Jan-19-11 11:40 AM   #102 
  - Boy Howdy, ME TOO!. . . . . n/t  annabanana   Jan-19-11 03:44 PM   #104 
  - It's over... It's time to primary Obama  Youth Uprising   Jan-20-11 12:58 AM   #108 
  - Thinking more about this - I really think this was a turning point to our country.  cbdo2007   Jan-20-11 05:54 PM   #111 

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