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42. If you start the smoking at 2, are they nice and fully cured by 3?
I never know these cooking tips for some reason.
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  -Six months of breastfeeding alone could harm babies, scientists now say Turborama  Jan-13-11 08:10 PM   #0 
  - I'll Drink to that!  Demeter   Jan-13-11 08:12 PM   #1 
  - harmful?  Abq_Sarah   Jan-13-11 08:13 PM   #2 
  - They are saying we should start WEANING Children before they are six months old  happyslug   Jan-13-11 08:23 PM   #3 
  - Agreed. I introduced cereal at 3 months, though I continued  enlightenment   Jan-13-11 08:25 PM   #6 
  - well said.  fleabert   Jan-14-11 08:42 AM   #59 
  - Yeah, how about that.  freshwest   Jan-13-11 08:51 PM   #10 
  - I agree. And idealy you should start them smoking at the Olive Garden by age 2.  Liberal Veteran   Jan-13-11 08:24 PM   #4 
  - If you start the smoking at 2, are they nice and fully cured by 3?  boppers   Jan-14-11 01:51 AM   #42 
  - Just when I'd promised myself to maintain a civil tone, this is making it difficult.  enough   Jan-13-11 08:24 PM   #5 
  - Unfortunately, perhaps a lot of Women are not as savy as you.  BlueJazz   Jan-13-11 08:30 PM   #7 
  - It most certainly IS a man's business what a woman feeds his child  Rage for Order   Jan-15-11 12:00 AM   #154 
  - But some mothers are none too bright...  DRex   Jan-13-11 08:39 PM   #9 
  - Something like half of them are even below average  quakerboy   Jan-13-11 10:40 PM   #22 
  - The point of these reports is often to confuse the public -- what's new?  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 11:26 AM   #93 
     - That's rather conspiratorial....  DRex   Jan-14-11 11:40 AM   #99 
        - Remember the "Toxic Sludge is good for you" campaign?  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 12:31 PM   #109 
           - Nowhere does this say not to breastfeed though...  DRex   Jan-14-11 02:01 PM   #117 
              - With no new evidence vs natural breastfeeding, it's suggesting "HARM" can be done -- !!!  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 04:55 PM   #121 
                 - But it's not "VS. Natural Breastfeeding!"  DRex   Jan-14-11 05:11 PM   #127 
                 - Of course, it is "vs breastfeeding" ...  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 05:34 PM   #131 
                    - The issue is not "new evidence"...  DRex   Jan-14-11 06:13 PM   #140 
                    - Baby food industry is using "no new evidence" to try to reverse breastfeeding ....  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 06:22 PM   #141 
                       - I guess they are taking the longview then....  DRex   Jan-14-11 06:31 PM   #142 
                          - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-14-11 06:38 PM   #143 
                    - 4 mo. is still a newborn?!?!  NickB79   Jan-17-11 02:49 PM   #182 
                 - so you've bought the 'salt & sugar are just like bad drugs' propaganda....  StarsInHerHair   Jan-14-11 05:56 PM   #138 
                    - Non-natural salt and sugar are great for you ... if you want high blood pressure and diabetes...???  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 07:06 PM   #147 
  - it seems breast milk can't feed a growing brain enough to make  roguevalley   Jan-14-11 12:25 AM   #33 
  - What you're saying is inane....hormones/chemicals from breastmilk are used into old age...!!!  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 12:35 PM   #111 
     - The article talks about WEANING babies off of breastmilk, not replacing it  NickB79   Jan-14-11 04:58 PM   #122 
        - Your response is an argument against your judgment and reasoning ....  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 05:41 PM   #132 
           - The first step in weaning is introducing solid foods  NickB79   Jan-14-11 07:30 PM   #148 
              - Does it enter your mind that when you "wean" you withdraw breastmilk ... ???  defendandprotect   Jan-15-11 08:50 AM   #156 
                 - A baby's caloric demands increase as he/she grows  NickB79   Jan-17-11 02:47 PM   #181 
                 - Most women can keep up with their babies increased caloric needs  Nikia   Jan-17-11 08:23 PM   #185 
                 - As for your disdain of medical experts  NickB79   Jan-17-11 02:54 PM   #183 
  - Many inexperienced mothers rely on others for advice. They don't trust  Arkansas Granny   Jan-14-11 10:09 AM   #85 
  - Exactly ... there has long been an effort to STOP breast feeding ... and they succeeded  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 11:25 AM   #92 
  - My kids all got rice cereal at three months or so.  crim son   Jan-13-11 08:34 PM   #8 
  - Same here.  rosesaylavee   Jan-13-11 08:55 PM   #12 
  - That would suggest the baby is telling the mother they need more than just milk.  LiberalFighter   Jan-14-11 09:17 AM   #68 
  - i don't know of any studies, but the common sense approach I have found is  fleabert   Jan-14-11 09:47 AM   #77 
  - Laughing.  crim son   Jan-14-11 12:45 PM   #112 
  - yeah I fed it to my puppy=same results, healthy, happy  StarsInHerHair   Jan-14-11 05:58 PM   #139 
  - Hi Crim son. Exactly the same here.  FedUpWithIt All   Jan-13-11 10:52 PM   #26 
  - Nice to see you!  crim son   Jan-14-11 12:48 PM   #113 
  - My mom got me on to solid food as fast as she could.  Codeine   Jan-14-11 12:33 PM   #110 
     - That is absolutely the truth!  crim son   Jan-14-11 12:51 PM   #114 
  - I'd like to know who paid for this 'science'?  DainBramaged   Jan-13-11 08:53 PM   #11 
  - Good point  Nikia   Jan-13-11 09:33 PM   #17 
  - I am guessing not them  quakerboy   Jan-13-11 10:42 PM   #23 
  - Good catch!  Odin2005   Jan-13-11 10:50 PM   #24 
  - See post #37. Terrible fumble, more like.  Turborama   Jan-14-11 01:21 AM   #38 
     - DOH, my bad!  Odin2005   Jan-14-11 07:37 AM   #52 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-14-11 11:25 AM   #91 
  - Where's the link between Nestle and this study?  Turborama   Jan-14-11 01:19 AM   #37 
  - Hmmm, I simply asked a question, strange your dfense of them is  DainBramaged   Jan-14-11 06:56 AM   #51 
     - Yes, Nestle have a bad history. However, it's got nothing to do with this study. Someone cited you  Turborama   Jan-14-11 09:01 AM   #61 
     - Yet again, I asked a question, and once again you accused ME of conflating 'my' facts  DainBramaged   Jan-14-11 09:56 AM   #80 
        - Three people believed that Nestle funded this because of what you posted  Turborama   Jan-14-11 10:06 AM   #83 
           - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-14-11 10:44 AM   #87 
     - Nestl Faces Facebook Crisis Over Greenpeace Rainforest Allegations  Turborama   Jan-14-11 11:37 AM   #98 
  - Excellent catch! The article should have been head-lined -  hedgehog   Jan-14-11 09:15 AM   #66 
  - OMG Not another one. Please See Posts #37 & #67  Turborama   Jan-14-11 09:22 AM   #70 
  - Exactly the first question we should ask every time.  harun   Jan-14-11 09:23 AM   #72 
  - So far, it seems the study was from government funded institutions  Turborama   Jan-14-11 09:24 AM   #73 
     - *  ronnie624   Jan-14-11 10:03 AM   #82 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-14-11 10:46 AM   #88 
  - NESTLE strikes again --  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 11:28 AM   #95 
  - LOL There is no info. Please read above and let's try and keep DU factual. n/t  Turborama   Jan-14-11 11:31 AM   #97 
     - "FACT" ... "Three of four authors of study have taken money from baby food industry" ....  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 12:15 PM   #102 
        - FACT They were funded by the university and the Medical Research Council = Gov. funding  Turborama   Jan-14-11 12:26 PM   #107 
           - You know how republicans  laundry_queen   Jan-16-11 09:22 PM   #178 
              - Yes I do, not sure if the same thing happens in the UK though.  Turborama   Jan-16-11 09:59 PM   #180 
  - These fuckers make me sick. nt  thereismore   Jan-14-11 02:09 PM   #118 
  - Anyone who has read "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn" knows its breastfeeding story:  elocs   Jan-13-11 08:55 PM   #13 
  - Not to worry they always reverse themselves every 5 years..  kickysnana   Jan-13-11 08:57 PM   #14 
  - they keep changing their minds!! i found out about exclusive feeding AFTER i had already been  ejpoeta   Jan-13-11 09:05 PM   #15 
  - One of the wonderful things you learn as a parent ...  surrealAmerican   Jan-13-11 09:16 PM   #16 
  - My newhpew lost weight after being born because his mother insisted on breast feeding.  joshcryer   Jan-13-11 09:41 PM   #18 
  - it's too bad there wasn't a good lactation consultant, or that the dr. wasn't educated about BF'ing.  fleabert   Jan-14-11 08:30 AM   #56 
  - my daughter had a terrible time trying to breastfeed her first child.  CTyankee   Jan-14-11 02:53 PM   #120 
  - that sounds like a ton of support, which is exactly what she needed.  fleabert   Jan-14-11 05:42 PM   #133 
  - Thanks. It just upset me so much to see her crying when it should have been a joyous time.  CTyankee   Jan-15-11 02:42 PM   #164 
  - Yeah, that's basically what happened in this situation.  joshcryer   Jan-14-11 07:50 PM   #150 
     - that's very sad. for both your mom and sister in law. (and the baby)  fleabert   Jan-14-11 09:23 PM   #151 
        - She had her tubes tied, we were fully supportive of her breast feeding.  joshcryer   Jan-14-11 11:15 PM   #153 
           - personally, i think three months is way too early for cereal, and rice has no nutritional value.  fleabert   Jan-15-11 08:00 AM   #155 
  - She is overweight and tried for three weeks.  joshcryer   Jan-14-11 07:47 PM   #149 
     - all i am saying is that with a good, ibclc lactation consultant, it never would have gotten that far  fleabert   Jan-16-11 08:47 AM   #171 
  - That would be odd, except ALL babies lose some weight  Egnever   Jan-14-11 08:41 AM   #58 
     - How in the world did humans survive?  ronnie624   Jan-14-11 10:09 AM   #84 
        - Ding ding ding  NickB79   Jan-14-11 05:04 PM   #124 
  - Rats Cause Cancer  Spoonman   Jan-13-11 09:45 PM   #19 
  - I never was able to get my older son to eat baby gruel  starroute   Jan-13-11 09:47 PM   #20 
  - Maybe you should have gotten some "Gruel Helper!"  Manifestor_of_Light   Jan-18-11 01:38 AM   #186 
  - I don't see the hoopla.  Atypical Liberal   Jan-13-11 10:14 PM   #21 
  - This is corporate junk science.  Odin2005   Jan-13-11 10:51 PM   #25 
  - Agree ---  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 11:26 AM   #94 
  - It appears this was government-funded.  NickB79   Jan-14-11 05:06 PM   #126 
  - My eldest got organic carrot juice (which I made by grating carrots  JDPriestly   Jan-13-11 10:53 PM   #27 
  - Another missing element is the origin of the good old tonguie.  TheMadMonk   Jan-13-11 10:56 PM   #28 
  - Our first got a fresh pacifer if he dropped it, the 2nd  SoCalDem   Jan-16-11 09:52 AM   #173 
  - I only did formula, glad to say.  David__77   Jan-13-11 11:23 PM   #29 
  - Yeah, because stuff produced at the Nestle factory must be  Egnever   Jan-14-11 08:42 AM   #60 
  - um, this research was sponsored by baby food companies.  Monarda   Jan-13-11 11:38 PM   #30 
  - I love how I'm staring at a Gerber ad on this page.  truthisfreedom   Jan-14-11 12:25 AM   #32 
  - No, it wans't  Turborama   Jan-14-11 01:31 AM   #39 
     - Okay, here's a quote from the article  Bluesbreaker   Jan-14-11 01:41 AM   #40 
     - And the next paragraph...  Turborama   Jan-14-11 01:47 AM   #41 
     - No new research  Monarda   Jan-14-11 07:40 AM   #53 
        - "And was not based on any research" - Wrong. It was based on research.  Turborama   Jan-14-11 09:04 AM   #62 
  - my DIL and i were just discussing this  shanti   Jan-14-11 12:05 AM   #31 
  - Unrec...study sponsored by Nestle Corporation, maker of BABY FOODS  Wednesdays   Jan-14-11 01:00 AM   #34 
  - You should try reading the article instead of going by what post #11 says  Turborama   Jan-14-11 01:17 AM   #36 
  - Only if you're breastfeeding at Olive Garden.  MilesColtrane   Jan-14-11 01:06 AM   #35 
  - What is it about having children that turns rational adults into mindless zomboids?  boppers   Jan-14-11 02:07 AM   #43 
  - Way to insult the whole world: "every new parent into a psychotic expert about everything?"  Turborama   Jan-14-11 02:20 AM   #44 
     - Every parent without a science degree who is an expert on immunization.  boppers   Jan-14-11 02:56 AM   #45 
        - Well, let's put it this way.  Turborama   Jan-14-11 03:09 AM   #46 
           - Well, it's part of the shift to a Technocracy.  boppers   Jan-14-11 04:45 AM   #47 
  - that first comment is perfect! my views exactly.  MBS   Jan-14-11 05:51 AM   #48 
  - Back in the day when me and my brothers and sisters were born  madokie   Jan-14-11 06:19 AM   #49 
  - When my kids were babies  Marthe48   Jan-14-11 06:50 AM   #50 
  - My pediatrician had me introduce solid foods early also. Two or the four  Arkansas Granny   Jan-14-11 10:47 AM   #89 
  - Best plan - find a doctor that you really really like and do whatever they say.  cbdo2007   Jan-14-11 07:41 AM   #54 
  - i'd like to see who funded the study...  fleabert   Jan-14-11 08:26 AM   #55 
  - From the article: "We are a university and Medical Research Council-funded group"  Turborama   Jan-14-11 09:07 AM   #64 
     - yep. I started on the BMJ article, just got interrupted by the baby...  fleabert   Jan-14-11 09:08 AM   #65 
        - The MRC is government funded  Turborama   Jan-14-11 09:15 AM   #67 
           - she's 5mo :-)  fleabert   Jan-14-11 09:41 AM   #76 
              - Congratulations to you, too.  Turborama   Jan-14-11 09:48 AM   #78 
  - a quote from the BMJ story...  fleabert   Jan-14-11 08:38 AM   #57 
  - This is how the authors' university is reporting it.  Turborama   Jan-14-11 09:18 AM   #69 
     - the issue i have is the pratical application of this advice  fleabert   Jan-14-11 09:37 AM   #75 
  - I used a liquid vitamin supplement to ward against the possibility of anemia.  gkhouston   Jan-14-11 09:05 AM   #63 
  - All kinds of unanswered questions here - for example, is there something  hedgehog   Jan-14-11 09:22 AM   #71 
  - Makes sense for a number of reasons..  snooper2   Jan-14-11 09:27 AM   #74 
  - The Unicef response...  fleabert   Jan-14-11 09:52 AM   #79 
  - Here's the NHS response, published 10 minutes ago....  Turborama   Jan-14-11 10:02 AM   #81 
  - a much more balanced response to the revised advice. wish it was what was headlined all day.  fleabert   Jan-14-11 05:49 PM   #135 
  - la leche league's advice on when to begin weaning/introduce solids...awesome imho.  fleabert   Jan-14-11 05:55 PM   #137 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 11:29 AM   #96 
  - The guidelines change all the time on when to introduce solid foods.  Arkansas Granny   Jan-14-11 10:14 AM   #86 
  - Babies digestive abilities don't change however ... probably slight differences from  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 12:18 PM   #105 
  - Meh, why don't they all just admit that they have no clue, period.  krabigirl   Jan-14-11 11:06 AM   #90 
  - MERRY CHRISTMAS  DainBramaged   Jan-14-11 12:09 PM   #100 
  - "Three of the four authors 'have performed consultancy work and/or received funds ....  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 12:11 PM   #101 
  - They were funded by the British government. Here's the next paragraph...  Turborama   Jan-14-11 12:17 PM   #104 
     - The study is flawed ... and the links are acknowledged ---  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 12:25 PM   #106 
        - Look, someone upthread has made an allegation that Nestle funded this study  Turborama   Jan-14-11 12:28 PM   #108 
           - Why would you expect a DIRECT link to Nestle ....?  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 05:00 PM   #123 
              - So, let me get this straight  NickB79   Jan-14-11 05:13 PM   #128 
              - Suspect whomever you want -- or not ....  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 05:52 PM   #136 
                 - This isn't an American study  Turborama   Jan-14-11 06:57 PM   #145 
                    - We know that ... what's your point? That our government agencies are totally honest and reliable?  defendandprotect   Jan-15-11 08:55 AM   #158 
                       - We? Are you more than one person?  Turborama   Jan-15-11 01:49 PM   #161 
                          - Might also be said "you are looking at this through the 'wrong lens'" ....  defendandprotect   Jan-15-11 05:18 PM   #165 
                             - My "strong interest" is in keeping the facts straight. I hate dishonest discussion, wherever it is  Turborama   Jan-15-11 11:15 PM   #167 
                                - FACT: 3 of the 4 authors did "consulting work for formula/baby food industry" and $$ for research !  defendandprotect   Jan-16-11 08:53 PM   #175 
                                   - "We couldn't ever trust what they were "putting in the baby food" -- that's another fact" Really?  Turborama   Jan-16-11 09:48 PM   #179 
              - "Why would we suspect that anyone but dishonest people have been involved in it?"  Turborama   Jan-14-11 06:46 PM   #144 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-15-11 08:59 AM   #159 
                 - Why would we suspect that dishonest people have any involvement in government ....  defendandprotect   Jan-15-11 05:21 PM   #166 
                    - This study has nothing to do with the founding fathers or Thatcher  Turborama   Jan-15-11 11:24 PM   #168 
                       - Our discussion has to do with "dishonest" men and corrupt government and its agencies...  defendandprotect   Jan-16-11 08:15 AM   #169 
                          - I'm glad you finally understood what my "goal" was. I thought I'd made it quite clear from the start  Turborama   Jan-16-11 08:24 AM   #170 
  - Junk Science!  Emillereid   Jan-14-11 12:16 PM   #103 
  - Dear God. I breast fed exclusively for 6 months, and my kid's healthy as a horse.  ehrnst   Jan-14-11 01:38 PM   #115 
  - It's amazing the difference in children who are breast fed ... and how long the medical industry  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 05:05 PM   #125 
     - My son was enthusiastic - they put him in my arms, he sniffed the air  ehrnst   Jan-14-11 05:16 PM   #129 
        - Lovely story --  defendandprotect   Jan-14-11 05:22 PM   #130 
  - self-delete  ehrnst   Jan-14-11 01:38 PM   #116 
  - Am I too late? Is the popcorn all gone?  CTyankee   Jan-14-11 02:39 PM   #119 
  - No, but the butter's getting low  Turborama   Jan-14-11 07:01 PM   #146 
     - Oh, Turborama....don't you know better?  CTyankee   Jan-15-11 01:10 PM   #160 
        - LOL, I do now!  Turborama   Jan-15-11 01:58 PM   #162 
           - Good luck to you both! Please let us know when your baby is born and how  CTyankee   Jan-15-11 02:38 PM   #163 
  - kids-actually babies start to get ricketts (however u spell it) I know someone  StarsInHerHair   Jan-14-11 05:49 PM   #134 
  - The current recommendation for breastfeeding babies is vit D drops  laundry_queen   Jan-16-11 09:16 PM   #177 
  - My daughter's digestive system was un-able to handle baby food before 6 mos.  Devil_Fish   Jan-14-11 09:40 PM   #152 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-15-11 08:53 AM   #157 
  - Good grief..  SoCalDem   Jan-16-11 09:47 AM   #172 
  - What they mean to say is that it hurts corporate profit. n/t  Catherina   Jan-16-11 10:09 AM   #174 
  - This frustrates the crap out of me  laundry_queen   Jan-16-11 09:14 PM   #176 
  - and this puts my thought out there best...great response from my fave resource  fleabert   Jan-17-11 07:01 PM   #184 
  - I'm allergic to soy.  Manifestor_of_Light   Jan-18-11 01:43 AM   #187 
 

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