| 20. I never was able to get my older son to eat baby gruel |
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Edited on Thu Jan-13-11 09:50 PM by starroute
Whatever guidelines I was following said to start rice cereal at 4 months -- so I dutifully drove both of us nuts for several months trying to maneuver that tiny baby spoon into his mouth and drop its payload before he could spit it out.
Eventually he started getting teeth -- though not till he was more than a year old -- and was ready to eat real food. But he never did accept the infant stuff.
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| -Six months of breastfeeding alone could harm babies, scientists now say |
Turborama |
Jan-13-11 08:10 PM |
#0 |
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I'll Drink to that! |
Demeter |
Jan-13-11 08:12 PM |
#1 |
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harmful? |
Abq_Sarah |
Jan-13-11 08:13 PM |
#2 |
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They are saying we should start WEANING Children before they are six months old |
happyslug |
Jan-13-11 08:23 PM |
#3 |
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Agreed. I introduced cereal at 3 months, though I continued |
enlightenment |
Jan-13-11 08:25 PM |
#6 |
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well said. |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 08:42 AM |
#59 |
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Yeah, how about that. |
freshwest |
Jan-13-11 08:51 PM |
#10 |
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I agree. And idealy you should start them smoking at the Olive Garden by age 2. |
Liberal Veteran |
Jan-13-11 08:24 PM |
#4 |
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If you start the smoking at 2, are they nice and fully cured by 3? |
boppers |
Jan-14-11 01:51 AM |
#42 |
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Just when I'd promised myself to maintain a civil tone, this is making it difficult. |
enough |
Jan-13-11 08:24 PM |
#5 |
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Unfortunately, perhaps a lot of Women are not as savy as you. |
BlueJazz |
Jan-13-11 08:30 PM |
#7 |
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It most certainly IS a man's business what a woman feeds his child |
Rage for Order |
Jan-15-11 12:00 AM |
#154 |
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But some mothers are none too bright... |
DRex |
Jan-13-11 08:39 PM |
#9 |
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Something like half of them are even below average |
quakerboy |
Jan-13-11 10:40 PM |
#22 |
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The point of these reports is often to confuse the public -- what's new? |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 11:26 AM |
#93 |
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That's rather conspiratorial.... |
DRex |
Jan-14-11 11:40 AM |
#99 |
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Remember the "Toxic Sludge is good for you" campaign? |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 12:31 PM |
#109 |
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Nowhere does this say not to breastfeed though... |
DRex |
Jan-14-11 02:01 PM |
#117 |
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With no new evidence vs natural breastfeeding, it's suggesting "HARM" can be done -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 04:55 PM |
#121 |
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But it's not "VS. Natural Breastfeeding!" |
DRex |
Jan-14-11 05:11 PM |
#127 |
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Of course, it is "vs breastfeeding" ... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 05:34 PM |
#131 |
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The issue is not "new evidence"... |
DRex |
Jan-14-11 06:13 PM |
#140 |
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Baby food industry is using "no new evidence" to try to reverse breastfeeding .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 06:22 PM |
#141 |
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I guess they are taking the longview then.... |
DRex |
Jan-14-11 06:31 PM |
#142 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-14-11 06:38 PM |
#143 |
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4 mo. is still a newborn?!?! |
NickB79 |
Jan-17-11 02:49 PM |
#182 |
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so you've bought the 'salt & sugar are just like bad drugs' propaganda.... |
StarsInHerHair |
Jan-14-11 05:56 PM |
#138 |
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Non-natural salt and sugar are great for you ... if you want high blood pressure and diabetes...??? |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 07:06 PM |
#147 |
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it seems breast milk can't feed a growing brain enough to make |
roguevalley |
Jan-14-11 12:25 AM |
#33 |
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What you're saying is inane....hormones/chemicals from breastmilk are used into old age...!!! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 12:35 PM |
#111 |
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The article talks about WEANING babies off of breastmilk, not replacing it |
NickB79 |
Jan-14-11 04:58 PM |
#122 |
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Your response is an argument against your judgment and reasoning .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 05:41 PM |
#132 |
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The first step in weaning is introducing solid foods |
NickB79 |
Jan-14-11 07:30 PM |
#148 |
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Does it enter your mind that when you "wean" you withdraw breastmilk ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Jan-15-11 08:50 AM |
#156 |
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A baby's caloric demands increase as he/she grows |
NickB79 |
Jan-17-11 02:47 PM |
#181 |
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Most women can keep up with their babies increased caloric needs |
Nikia |
Jan-17-11 08:23 PM |
#185 |
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As for your disdain of medical experts |
NickB79 |
Jan-17-11 02:54 PM |
#183 |
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Many inexperienced mothers rely on others for advice. They don't trust |
Arkansas Granny |
Jan-14-11 10:09 AM |
#85 |
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Exactly ... there has long been an effort to STOP breast feeding ... and they succeeded |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 11:25 AM |
#92 |
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My kids all got rice cereal at three months or so. |
crim son |
Jan-13-11 08:34 PM |
#8 |
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Same here. |
rosesaylavee |
Jan-13-11 08:55 PM |
#12 |
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That would suggest the baby is telling the mother they need more than just milk. |
LiberalFighter |
Jan-14-11 09:17 AM |
#68 |
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i don't know of any studies, but the common sense approach I have found is |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 09:47 AM |
#77 |
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Laughing. |
crim son |
Jan-14-11 12:45 PM |
#112 |
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yeah I fed it to my puppy=same results, healthy, happy |
StarsInHerHair |
Jan-14-11 05:58 PM |
#139 |
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Hi Crim son. Exactly the same here. |
FedUpWithIt All |
Jan-13-11 10:52 PM |
#26 |
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Nice to see you! |
crim son |
Jan-14-11 12:48 PM |
#113 |
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My mom got me on to solid food as fast as she could. |
Codeine |
Jan-14-11 12:33 PM |
#110 |
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That is absolutely the truth! |
crim son |
Jan-14-11 12:51 PM |
#114 |
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I'd like to know who paid for this 'science'? |
DainBramaged |
Jan-13-11 08:53 PM |
#11 |
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Good point |
Nikia |
Jan-13-11 09:33 PM |
#17 |
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I am guessing not them |
quakerboy |
Jan-13-11 10:42 PM |
#23 |
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Good catch! |
Odin2005 |
Jan-13-11 10:50 PM |
#24 |
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See post #37. Terrible fumble, more like. |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 01:21 AM |
#38 |
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DOH, my bad! |
Odin2005 |
Jan-14-11 07:37 AM |
#52 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-14-11 11:25 AM |
#91 |
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Where's the link between Nestle and this study? |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 01:19 AM |
#37 |
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Hmmm, I simply asked a question, strange your dfense of them is |
DainBramaged |
Jan-14-11 06:56 AM |
#51 |
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Yes, Nestle have a bad history. However, it's got nothing to do with this study. Someone cited you |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 09:01 AM |
#61 |
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Yet again, I asked a question, and once again you accused ME of conflating 'my' facts |
DainBramaged |
Jan-14-11 09:56 AM |
#80 |
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Three people believed that Nestle funded this because of what you posted |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 10:06 AM |
#83 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-14-11 10:44 AM |
#87 |
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Nestlé Faces Facebook Crisis Over Greenpeace Rainforest Allegations |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 11:37 AM |
#98 |
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Excellent catch! The article should have been head-lined - |
hedgehog |
Jan-14-11 09:15 AM |
#66 |
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OMG Not another one. Please See Posts #37 & #67 |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 09:22 AM |
#70 |
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Exactly the first question we should ask every time. |
harun |
Jan-14-11 09:23 AM |
#72 |
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So far, it seems the study was from government funded institutions |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 09:24 AM |
#73 |
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* |
ronnie624 |
Jan-14-11 10:03 AM |
#82 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jan-14-11 10:46 AM |
#88 |
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NESTLE strikes again -- |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 11:28 AM |
#95 |
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LOL There is no info. Please read above and let's try and keep DU factual. n/t |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 11:31 AM |
#97 |
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"FACT" ... "Three of four authors of study have taken money from baby food industry" .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 12:15 PM |
#102 |
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FACT They were funded by the university and the Medical Research Council = Gov. funding |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 12:26 PM |
#107 |
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You know how republicans |
laundry_queen |
Jan-16-11 09:22 PM |
#178 |
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Yes I do, not sure if the same thing happens in the UK though. |
Turborama |
Jan-16-11 09:59 PM |
#180 |
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These fuckers make me sick. nt |
thereismore |
Jan-14-11 02:09 PM |
#118 |
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Anyone who has read "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn" knows its breastfeeding story: |
elocs |
Jan-13-11 08:55 PM |
#13 |
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Not to worry they always reverse themselves every 5 years.. |
kickysnana |
Jan-13-11 08:57 PM |
#14 |
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they keep changing their minds!! i found out about exclusive feeding AFTER i had already been |
ejpoeta |
Jan-13-11 09:05 PM |
#15 |
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One of the wonderful things you learn as a parent ... |
surrealAmerican |
Jan-13-11 09:16 PM |
#16 |
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My newhpew lost weight after being born because his mother insisted on breast feeding. |
joshcryer |
Jan-13-11 09:41 PM |
#18 |
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it's too bad there wasn't a good lactation consultant, or that the dr. wasn't educated about BF'ing. |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 08:30 AM |
#56 |
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my daughter had a terrible time trying to breastfeed her first child. |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 02:53 PM |
#120 |
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that sounds like a ton of support, which is exactly what she needed. |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 05:42 PM |
#133 |
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Thanks. It just upset me so much to see her crying when it should have been a joyous time. |
CTyankee |
Jan-15-11 02:42 PM |
#164 |
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Yeah, that's basically what happened in this situation. |
joshcryer |
Jan-14-11 07:50 PM |
#150 |
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that's very sad. for both your mom and sister in law. (and the baby) |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 09:23 PM |
#151 |
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She had her tubes tied, we were fully supportive of her breast feeding. |
joshcryer |
Jan-14-11 11:15 PM |
#153 |
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personally, i think three months is way too early for cereal, and rice has no nutritional value. |
fleabert |
Jan-15-11 08:00 AM |
#155 |
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She is overweight and tried for three weeks. |
joshcryer |
Jan-14-11 07:47 PM |
#149 |
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all i am saying is that with a good, ibclc lactation consultant, it never would have gotten that far |
fleabert |
Jan-16-11 08:47 AM |
#171 |
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That would be odd, except ALL babies lose some weight |
Egnever |
Jan-14-11 08:41 AM |
#58 |
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How in the world did humans survive? |
ronnie624 |
Jan-14-11 10:09 AM |
#84 |
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Ding ding ding |
NickB79 |
Jan-14-11 05:04 PM |
#124 |
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Rats Cause Cancer |
Spoonman |
Jan-13-11 09:45 PM |
#19 |
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I never was able to get my older son to eat baby gruel |
starroute |
Jan-13-11 09:47 PM |
#20 |
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Maybe you should have gotten some "Gruel Helper!" |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jan-18-11 01:38 AM |
#186 |
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I don't see the hoopla. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-13-11 10:14 PM |
#21 |
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This is corporate junk science. |
Odin2005 |
Jan-13-11 10:51 PM |
#25 |
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Agree --- |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 11:26 AM |
#94 |
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It appears this was government-funded. |
NickB79 |
Jan-14-11 05:06 PM |
#126 |
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My eldest got organic carrot juice (which I made by grating carrots |
JDPriestly |
Jan-13-11 10:53 PM |
#27 |
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Another missing element is the origin of the good old tonguie. |
TheMadMonk |
Jan-13-11 10:56 PM |
#28 |
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Our first got a fresh pacifer if he dropped it, the 2nd |
SoCalDem |
Jan-16-11 09:52 AM |
#173 |
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I only did formula, glad to say. |
David__77 |
Jan-13-11 11:23 PM |
#29 |
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Yeah, because stuff produced at the Nestle factory must be |
Egnever |
Jan-14-11 08:42 AM |
#60 |
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um, this research was sponsored by baby food companies. |
Monarda |
Jan-13-11 11:38 PM |
#30 |
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I love how I'm staring at a Gerber ad on this page. |
truthisfreedom |
Jan-14-11 12:25 AM |
#32 |
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No, it wans't |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 01:31 AM |
#39 |
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Okay, here's a quote from the article |
Bluesbreaker |
Jan-14-11 01:41 AM |
#40 |
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And the next paragraph... |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 01:47 AM |
#41 |
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No new research |
Monarda |
Jan-14-11 07:40 AM |
#53 |
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"And was not based on any research" - Wrong. It was based on research. |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 09:04 AM |
#62 |
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my DIL and i were just discussing this |
shanti |
Jan-14-11 12:05 AM |
#31 |
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Unrec...study sponsored by Nestle Corporation, maker of BABY FOODS |
Wednesdays |
Jan-14-11 01:00 AM |
#34 |
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You should try reading the article instead of going by what post #11 says |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 01:17 AM |
#36 |
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Only if you're breastfeeding at Olive Garden. |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-14-11 01:06 AM |
#35 |
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What is it about having children that turns rational adults into mindless zomboids? |
boppers |
Jan-14-11 02:07 AM |
#43 |
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Way to insult the whole world: "every new parent into a psychotic expert about everything?" |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 02:20 AM |
#44 |
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Every parent without a science degree who is an expert on immunization. |
boppers |
Jan-14-11 02:56 AM |
#45 |
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Well, let's put it this way. |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 03:09 AM |
#46 |
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Well, it's part of the shift to a Technocracy. |
boppers |
Jan-14-11 04:45 AM |
#47 |
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that first comment is perfect! my views exactly. |
MBS |
Jan-14-11 05:51 AM |
#48 |
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Back in the day when me and my brothers and sisters were born |
madokie |
Jan-14-11 06:19 AM |
#49 |
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When my kids were babies |
Marthe48 |
Jan-14-11 06:50 AM |
#50 |
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My pediatrician had me introduce solid foods early also. Two or the four |
Arkansas Granny |
Jan-14-11 10:47 AM |
#89 |
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Best plan - find a doctor that you really really like and do whatever they say. |
cbdo2007 |
Jan-14-11 07:41 AM |
#54 |
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i'd like to see who funded the study... |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 08:26 AM |
#55 |
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From the article: "We are a university and Medical Research Council-funded group" |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 09:07 AM |
#64 |
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yep. I started on the BMJ article, just got interrupted by the baby... |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 09:08 AM |
#65 |
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The MRC is government funded |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 09:15 AM |
#67 |
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she's 5mo :-) |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 09:41 AM |
#76 |
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Congratulations to you, too. |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 09:48 AM |
#78 |
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a quote from the BMJ story... |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 08:38 AM |
#57 |
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This is how the authors' university is reporting it. |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 09:18 AM |
#69 |
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the issue i have is the pratical application of this advice |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 09:37 AM |
#75 |
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I used a liquid vitamin supplement to ward against the possibility of anemia. |
gkhouston |
Jan-14-11 09:05 AM |
#63 |
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All kinds of unanswered questions here - for example, is there something |
hedgehog |
Jan-14-11 09:22 AM |
#71 |
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Makes sense for a number of reasons.. |
snooper2 |
Jan-14-11 09:27 AM |
#74 |
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The Unicef response... |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 09:52 AM |
#79 |
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Here's the NHS response, published 10 minutes ago.... |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 10:02 AM |
#81 |
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a much more balanced response to the revised advice. wish it was what was headlined all day. |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 05:49 PM |
#135 |
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la leche league's advice on when to begin weaning/introduce solids...awesome imho. |
fleabert |
Jan-14-11 05:55 PM |
#137 |
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+1000% -- |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 11:29 AM |
#96 |
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The guidelines change all the time on when to introduce solid foods. |
Arkansas Granny |
Jan-14-11 10:14 AM |
#86 |
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Babies digestive abilities don't change however ... probably slight differences from |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 12:18 PM |
#105 |
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Meh, why don't they all just admit that they have no clue, period. |
krabigirl |
Jan-14-11 11:06 AM |
#90 |
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MERRY CHRISTMAS |
DainBramaged |
Jan-14-11 12:09 PM |
#100 |
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"Three of the four authors 'have performed consultancy work and/or received funds .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 12:11 PM |
#101 |
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They were funded by the British government. Here's the next paragraph... |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 12:17 PM |
#104 |
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The study is flawed ... and the links are acknowledged --- |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 12:25 PM |
#106 |
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Look, someone upthread has made an allegation that Nestle funded this study |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 12:28 PM |
#108 |
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Why would you expect a DIRECT link to Nestle ....? |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 05:00 PM |
#123 |
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So, let me get this straight |
NickB79 |
Jan-14-11 05:13 PM |
#128 |
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Suspect whomever you want -- or not .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 05:52 PM |
#136 |
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This isn't an American study |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 06:57 PM |
#145 |
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We know that ... what's your point? That our government agencies are totally honest and reliable? |
defendandprotect |
Jan-15-11 08:55 AM |
#158 |
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We? Are you more than one person? |
Turborama |
Jan-15-11 01:49 PM |
#161 |
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Might also be said "you are looking at this through the 'wrong lens'" .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-15-11 05:18 PM |
#165 |
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My "strong interest" is in keeping the facts straight. I hate dishonest discussion, wherever it is |
Turborama |
Jan-15-11 11:15 PM |
#167 |
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FACT: 3 of the 4 authors did "consulting work for formula/baby food industry" and $$ for research ! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-16-11 08:53 PM |
#175 |
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"We couldn't ever trust what they were "putting in the baby food" -- that's another fact" Really? |
Turborama |
Jan-16-11 09:48 PM |
#179 |
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"Why would we suspect that anyone but dishonest people have been involved in it?" |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 06:46 PM |
#144 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-15-11 08:59 AM |
#159 |
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Why would we suspect that dishonest people have any involvement in government .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-15-11 05:21 PM |
#166 |
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This study has nothing to do with the founding fathers or Thatcher |
Turborama |
Jan-15-11 11:24 PM |
#168 |
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Our discussion has to do with "dishonest" men and corrupt government and its agencies... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-16-11 08:15 AM |
#169 |
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I'm glad you finally understood what my "goal" was. I thought I'd made it quite clear from the start |
Turborama |
Jan-16-11 08:24 AM |
#170 |
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Junk Science! |
Emillereid |
Jan-14-11 12:16 PM |
#103 |
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Dear God. I breast fed exclusively for 6 months, and my kid's healthy as a horse. |
ehrnst |
Jan-14-11 01:38 PM |
#115 |
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It's amazing the difference in children who are breast fed ... and how long the medical industry |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 05:05 PM |
#125 |
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My son was enthusiastic - they put him in my arms, he sniffed the air |
ehrnst |
Jan-14-11 05:16 PM |
#129 |
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Lovely story -- |
defendandprotect |
Jan-14-11 05:22 PM |
#130 |
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self-delete |
ehrnst |
Jan-14-11 01:38 PM |
#116 |
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Am I too late? Is the popcorn all gone? |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 02:39 PM |
#119 |
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No, but the butter's getting low |
Turborama |
Jan-14-11 07:01 PM |
#146 |
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Oh, Turborama....don't you know better? |
CTyankee |
Jan-15-11 01:10 PM |
#160 |
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LOL, I do now! |
Turborama |
Jan-15-11 01:58 PM |
#162 |
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Good luck to you both! Please let us know when your baby is born and how |
CTyankee |
Jan-15-11 02:38 PM |
#163 |
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kids-actually babies start to get ricketts (however u spell it) I know someone |
StarsInHerHair |
Jan-14-11 05:49 PM |
#134 |
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The current recommendation for breastfeeding babies is vit D drops |
laundry_queen |
Jan-16-11 09:16 PM |
#177 |
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My daughter's digestive system was un-able to handle baby food before 6 mos. |
Devil_Fish |
Jan-14-11 09:40 PM |
#152 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-15-11 08:53 AM |
#157 |
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Good grief.. |
SoCalDem |
Jan-16-11 09:47 AM |
#172 |
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What they mean to say is that it hurts corporate profit. n/t |
Catherina |
Jan-16-11 10:09 AM |
#174 |
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This frustrates the crap out of me |
laundry_queen |
Jan-16-11 09:14 PM |
#176 |
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and this puts my thought out there best...great response from my fave resource |
fleabert |
Jan-17-11 07:01 PM |
#184 |
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I'm allergic to soy. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jan-18-11 01:43 AM |
#187 |
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