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76. Soon everyone using a Bit Torrent to exchange binary files will be identified. n/t
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  -Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans villager  Jan-08-11 01:46 AM   #0 
  - kick  emilyg   Jan-08-11 01:53 AM   #1 
  - Dibs... I call "targetpractice"!  targetpractice   Jan-08-11 01:54 AM   #2 
  - Are you sure you want to be so cavalier with everyone else's privacy, etc.?  snot   Jan-08-11 03:25 AM   #10 
  - Poor attempt at sarcasm on my part...  targetpractice   Jan-08-11 11:13 AM   #89 
  - RV thereby eyes a new candidate for 2012. I hope someone  roguevalley   Jan-08-11 10:47 AM   #87 
  - Ah. So instead of needing a "kill switch" for the whole thing  Duer 157099   Jan-08-11 02:08 AM   #3 
  - Bingo  me b zola   Jan-08-11 05:44 AM   #26 
  - Fascist USA has the right to assassinate any US citizen and  molly77   Jan-08-11 07:01 AM   #44 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-11 08:14 AM   #70 
  - Like those arguing points of view against  Enthusiast   Jan-08-11 07:47 AM   #59 
  - Last week, I went to type a reply to an OP & as soon as I typed the words "cat food commission"  earth mom   Jan-09-11 02:03 AM   #169 
  - I really hope this doesn't materialize!  The Northerner   Jan-08-11 02:10 AM   #4 
  - Echoing your thoughts  ChazII   Jan-08-11 12:48 PM   #103 
     - did you read the article this far....  sam sarrha   Jan-08-11 05:28 PM   #123 
        - What is he talking about there?  LisaL   Jan-08-11 05:56 PM   #134 
        - I have more of a problem with "why" than I do with "what" or "how."  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 05:32 AM   #172 
        - Yes. Is your point that we should swallow Locke's self-serving statement whole?  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 05:20 AM   #171 
  - wonderful idea, Comrade. nt  GSLevel9   Jan-08-11 02:10 AM   #5 
  - Is this supposed to be anti-communist propaganda? Or just anti-Obama?  Ruperto31   Jan-09-11 01:05 PM   #207 
  - Ok, we are going to need some national moderators. Any volunteers? n/t  jtuck004   Jan-08-11 02:17 AM   #6 
  - Motherfuckers can "Internet ID" my fat, white ass.  Systematic Chaos   Jan-08-11 02:18 AM   #7 
  - +1  andlor   Jan-08-11 06:58 AM   #42 
  - +2  4dsc   Jan-08-11 07:04 AM   #47 
  - +1 (n/t)  Maat   Jan-08-11 04:34 PM   #114 
  - +1  Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel   Jan-08-11 06:32 PM   #145 
  - Could be a really bad idea  iamtechus   Jan-08-11 02:19 AM   #8 
  - Does this mean that if I get in an argument with some wacko on a message board  trud   Jan-08-11 04:23 AM   #15 
  - Gives Government another method to track the whereabouts of individuals through Internet usage  LawnKorn   Jan-08-11 07:56 AM   #63 
  - Plus, if you come to my web site and display your ID, now I have it.  Downwinder   Jan-08-11 08:03 AM   #65 
  - Only If You Also Have Their Private Key. This Isn't Like a Credit Card Number  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 05:12 PM   #119 
     - How do YOU know? Article says, "Details about the "trusted identity" project are unusually scarce."  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 05:43 AM   #174 
  - Not to mention  christx30   Jan-09-11 10:18 PM   #214 
  - No. Only if the message board you are using requires you to use a "Trusted I.D."  Ian David   Jan-08-11 08:18 AM   #71 
  - which will be a requirement shortly.  ChairmanAgnostic   Jan-08-11 08:24 AM   #74 
  - That Simply Wouldn't Work. The Internet is International  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 05:24 PM   #122 
     - What if I am willing to limit my board or other internet services to folks from nations  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 05:57 AM   #176 
        - If It is Your Board, You Can Use Any Authentication You Want. That is the Point  AndyTiedye   Jan-09-11 03:57 PM   #212 
  - Please see Reply 174,  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 05:54 AM   #175 
  - Yes it does. If this goes through I'm done with the internet forver  cutlassmama   Jan-08-11 02:20 PM   #110 
  - "It just gets worse and worse with these "change" guys..." Exactly.  snagglepuss   Jan-08-11 02:24 AM   #9 
  - That was an episode from The Twilight Zone  Art_from_Ark   Jan-08-11 05:45 AM   #27 
     - No, it was *originally* a short story by Damon Knight  starroute   Jan-08-11 10:43 AM   #85 
        - Chalk me up as number four.  Norrin Radd   Jan-08-11 08:01 PM   #157 
           - And the Leiber story in that issue was "Coming Attraction"  starroute   Jan-08-11 09:06 PM   #164 
              - Clockwork Orange was set where?  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 05:59 AM   #177 
  - Btw, K&R'd, v. impt.  snot   Jan-08-11 03:26 AM   #11 
  - This is Just a Digital Signature. You Won't Have to Use It  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 03:31 AM   #12 
  - Amazing...a voice of reason here!  regnaD kciN   Jan-08-11 05:37 AM   #22 
  - Self delete  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 06:01 AM   #178 
  - that isn't the case in a "soft" totalitarian state  datasuspect   Jan-08-11 06:57 AM   #41 
  - Nothing Gets Signed Unless You Configure It  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 07:23 PM   #153 
  - Just like Social Security numbers are only for government use, right? n/t  PoliticAverse   Jan-08-11 07:20 AM   #50 
  - You won't have to use it. - Really?  LawnKorn   Jan-08-11 08:01 AM   #64 
  - GPS is Built Into the Phone. You Have Control over Certificates and Keypairs in Your Browser  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 05:22 PM   #121 
     - The funny business I'm worried about is identification being required to log on to the Internet  LawnKorn   Jan-08-11 06:06 PM   #139 
        - That is Unworkable. Visitors from Overseas Would Not Have One  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 06:34 PM   #146 
           - Unique identification number issued with visa  LawnKorn   Jan-08-11 07:05 PM   #152 
           - Most European Countries, Canada, Mexico & Singapore are Exempt from Visa Requirements  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 07:34 PM   #155 
              - Okay, you've got me convinced - the Government is not interested in what people do on the Internet  LawnKorn   Jan-08-11 07:42 PM   #156 
                 - The Government has Subpoena Power  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 08:24 PM   #160 
                    - So? let them get a damned subpoena for "probable cause" then.  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 06:47 AM   #182 
                       - So What Would Change Then?  AndyTiedye   Jan-09-11 04:10 PM   #213 
           - Unless their countries follow Obama's lead. Or some private entity starts issuing them, as with  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 06:09 AM   #179 
  - Which can be cross-referenced to my IP address etc. (nt)  iamtechus   Jan-08-11 11:33 AM   #93 
  - If You Have a Static IP Address, That is Easy to Look Up Anyway  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 04:49 PM   #116 
     - you don't have to have a static IP address, though.  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 06:52 AM   #183 
  - the way they swore we wouldn't have to use our Social Security #'s for ID?  villager   Jan-08-11 12:03 PM   #96 
  - You'd better hope no-one reads your income-tax forms on-line.  WinkyDink   Jan-08-11 01:05 PM   #106 
  - This Might Help Prevent That Sort of Thing  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 05:08 PM   #118 
  - Lol,sure. I wouldn't mind living in that fantasy world.  krabigirl   Jan-08-11 05:42 PM   #129 
     - What Do You Think This Will Let Them Do That They Can't Do Already?  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 08:05 PM   #158 
        - Only if you have a static ISP ---AND a judge grants the subpoena on probable cause.  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 06:57 AM   #184 
           - They Can Track a Dynamic IP with the DHCP Logs  AndyTiedye   Jan-09-11 02:36 PM   #210 
  - Prescription for a black market. Alternate DNS, unlisted servers.  Downwinder   Jan-08-11 04:02 AM   #13 
  - do people actually read the article?  OKNancy   Jan-08-11 04:05 AM   #14 
  - The same way I don't have to have a driver's license if I don't drive.  Downwinder   Jan-08-11 04:27 AM   #16 
  - Obviously, you just answered OKNancy's question with a big fat "NO"...  regnaD kciN   Jan-08-11 05:39 AM   #24 
     - I think he was agreeing with you guys  liberation   Jan-08-11 05:42 AM   #25 
     - explain to me the last time Government put a regulation into effect without  Downwinder   Jan-08-11 05:51 AM   #30 
     - A big fat NO to question #1,  polmaven   Jan-08-11 07:37 AM   #53 
     - LOL. No, Downwinder is drawing the correction conclusion.  EFerrari   Jan-08-11 08:51 AM   #83 
        - I disagree...  polmaven   Jan-08-11 10:46 AM   #86 
        - So, you think people would be okay with this if Bush did it?  EFerrari   Jan-08-11 12:09 PM   #99 
           - Actually, yes, I do.  polmaven   Jan-08-11 12:25 PM   #100 
           - I don't see how anyone who identifies as a progressive could be.  EFerrari   Jan-08-11 12:38 PM   #101 
              - Well, we shall simply  polmaven   Jan-08-11 12:39 PM   #102 
           - Bush certainly WANTED to...  benEzra   Jan-08-11 04:35 PM   #115 
              - Bingo!  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 09:59 AM   #202 
        - Right, and it seems as though we're supposed to feel better...  I Have A Dream   Jan-08-11 06:47 PM   #149 
     - Did you read the article?  EFerrari   Jan-08-11 08:48 AM   #81 
     - Please see Reply 171.  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 07:00 AM   #185 
     - The government has no business even mentioning the word internet  Ter   Jan-09-11 11:48 AM   #206 
  - Because we have learned from experience not to trust the government  eilen   Jan-08-11 05:46 AM   #28 
  - That is the Problem that This is Trying to Solve  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 08:42 PM   #162 
     - Not really.  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 06:35 AM   #181 
  - And you accepted that?  Warren Stupidity   Jan-08-11 07:52 AM   #61 
  - Seriously, right? "the tide goes in , the tide goes out"  Agony   Jan-08-11 08:10 AM   #68 
  - I cannot believe that any liberal would think this is good  ChairmanAgnostic   Jan-08-11 08:29 AM   #75 
  - I did - and I didn't see anything in it that gave me warm fuzzies  enlightenment   Jan-08-11 08:24 AM   #73 
  - They Do  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 06:02 PM   #138 
  - I think it might have something to do with  Boudica the Lyoness   Jan-08-11 08:44 AM   #79 
  - Not to mention...  Boudica the Lyoness   Jan-08-11 08:49 AM   #82 
  - I honestly don't care how the article spins this bullcrap. (nt)  w4rma   Jan-08-11 08:46 PM   #163 
  - Please see Reply 171. Also, how something starts is not necessarily how it remains. See all the  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 06:14 AM   #180 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-11 04:42 AM   # 
  - I dunno  dreamnightwind   Jan-08-11 05:12 AM   #19 
     - Please see Replies 171 and 174, for starters--and everything isn't about Obama.  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 07:04 AM   #186 
  - TERRIBLE IDEA!  Joanne98   Jan-08-11 04:42 AM   #17 
  - Whoever thought this one up needs to be fired.  James48   Jan-08-11 05:00 AM   #18 
  - An era of FASCISM is coming. And it's gonna be ugly n/t  conspirator   Jan-08-11 05:24 AM   #20 
  - Interesting how the story points out this will "please privacy and civil liberties groups"...  regnaD kciN   Jan-08-11 05:37 AM   #21 
  - Where is the need? n/t  Downwinder   Jan-08-11 05:47 AM   #29 
  - Exactly what I was thinking  Caretha   Jan-08-11 06:35 AM   #34 
  - Where is the need for my bank's website to know it's really me?  Recursion   Jan-08-11 06:47 AM   #36 
  - Are you saying that they do not know you now?  Downwinder   Jan-08-11 06:50 AM   #37 
     - Like all sysadmins, I cringed at that question  Recursion   Jan-08-11 06:52 AM   #39 
        - If you issue a certificate, it is as good as if someone else issues one.  Downwinder   Jan-08-11 07:00 AM   #43 
        - If your point is that all self-managed keys would be better, I definitely agree  Recursion   Jan-08-11 07:04 AM   #46 
        - How will this stop ID theft? Please see Reply 181,  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 07:21 AM   #188 
  - .  Bluebear   Jan-08-11 07:46 AM   #57 
  - Agree. Pls. see Reply 180. I'm guessing credit card companies are lobbying for this, bc  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 07:38 AM   #190 
  - How did the author of the article know what will please those groups?  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 07:13 AM   #187 
  - We all must make our sacrifices in the war against kiddie porn...  liberation   Jan-08-11 05:39 AM   #23 
  - kiddie porn has been an issue since I worked for the Post Office  mikehiggins   Jan-08-11 07:14 AM   #49 
  - How is thinking of the children inconsistent with kiddie porn?  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 07:24 AM   #189 
  - Considering that there are plenty of more important things  eilen   Jan-08-11 05:55 AM   #31 
  - At last the change we can believe in!  BlueJac   Jan-08-11 06:17 AM   #32 
  - Those 'right wing' ideas?  Enthusiast   Jan-08-11 07:50 AM   #60 
  - Wow: almost none of you understand what this is  Recursion   Jan-08-11 06:29 AM   #33 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-11 06:44 AM   #35 
  - I think people understand it just fine, including the part where  EFerrari   Jan-08-11 08:57 AM   #84 
  - Good one!  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 07:59 AM   #193 
  - What part about "heard this assurance before" is difficult to grasp?  WinkyDink   Jan-08-11 01:06 PM   #107 
  - Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.  boppers   Jan-08-11 05:48 PM   #132 
  - LOL!  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 07:53 AM   #192 
  - Why do you assume people who have a view different from yours do not understand this?  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 07:49 AM   #191 
     - I don't. But I see people complaining about things that don't apply to this initiative  Recursion   Jan-09-11 01:10 PM   #209 
  - With Democrats like this, who needs Republicans... (n/t)  NeoGreen   Jan-08-11 06:51 AM   #38 
  - +1  readmoreoften   Jan-08-11 04:58 PM   #117 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-11 06:54 AM   #40 
  - The homeless and jobless just aren't as interesting to Obama ....  defendandprotect   Jan-08-11 08:09 AM   #67 
  - Wasn't this tried years ago?  canoeist52   Jan-08-11 07:02 AM   #45 
  - Clinton had pushed for something like this  Recursion   Jan-08-11 07:06 AM   #48 
     - You seem to have missed the LESS SAFE part of canoeist's post, despite all cap/  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 08:24 AM   #196 
  - It sounds like we ARE talking about a national ID card.  Renew Deal   Jan-08-11 07:20 AM   #51 
  - Sounds like just one more step toward national ID.  Paper Roses   Jan-08-11 07:29 AM   #52 
  - 20 minutes after this gets implemented  Thav   Jan-08-11 07:39 AM   #54 
  - you nailed it  TK421   Jan-08-11 11:49 AM   #94 
  - Millions of people across lines of every  Enthusiast   Jan-08-11 07:45 AM   #55 
  - "Identity ecosystem"? Don't worry, we're just nice environmentalists, not jackbooted Storm Troopers  leveymg   Jan-08-11 07:46 AM   #56 
  - Ouch! My jaw just hit the keyboard.  Vinca   Jan-08-11 07:46 AM   #58 
  - Your Gubmint Moderator...  Hubert Flottz   Jan-08-11 07:52 AM   #62 
  - This simply makes it easier  TomClash   Jan-08-11 08:08 AM   #66 
  - The move also is likely to please privacy and civil liberties groups  NeoConsSuck   Jan-08-11 08:11 AM   #69 
  - When I read that line about pleasing privacy and civil liberties groups...  wakemewhenitsover   Jan-08-11 11:32 AM   #92 
  - Where do you suppose the author of the article got that gem? No  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 08:21 AM   #195 
  - Agree--but, whether they're pleased or appalled. I will think for myself.  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 08:07 AM   #194 
  - A beautiful idea...we can name the new system  Cutatious   Jan-08-11 08:23 AM   #72 
  - Soon everyone using a Bit Torrent to exchange binary files will be identified. n/t  LawnKorn   Jan-08-11 08:35 AM   #76 
  - Exactly!  Hayabusa   Jan-08-11 06:13 PM   #142 
  - There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge,"  IDemo   Jan-08-11 08:36 AM   #77 
  - Oh no, NO centralized database AT ALL  BuelahWitch   Jan-08-11 12:04 PM   #97 
  - Carnivore Knows Who You Are Already  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 05:29 PM   #125 
  - In fact, we didn't even mention the war!  WinkyDink   Jan-08-11 01:07 PM   #108 
  - I think it is for them, not us  Maineman   Jan-08-11 08:38 AM   #78 
  - Mr. Maineman, we have a question about your actions during the week of January 2nd  LawnKorn   Jan-08-11 08:47 AM   #80 
  - They know the activities of " bank robbers,  Autumn   Jan-08-11 01:12 PM   #109 
  - JUST AS USEFUL AS THE DMV.  Gregorian   Jan-08-11 11:12 AM   #88 
  - Far more potential for harm than the DMV.  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 08:34 AM   #198 
  - For reference, where I live  kryckis   Jan-08-11 11:25 AM   #90 
  - This is in a different country? Have the online IDs ever been abused there?  villager   Jan-08-11 11:28 AM   #91 
  - Sweden  kryckis   Jan-08-11 12:02 PM   #95 
     - well, here in America, numbers for Social Security and Drivers Licenses  villager   Jan-08-11 12:09 PM   #98 
        - Fewer Mistakes and Less Fraud  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 05:37 PM   #126 
  - Obvious? Really? What did the article say about a card reader?  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 08:31 AM   #197 
     - Do You Really Think the Folks in Washington Want to Put the Credit Card Companies Out of Business???  AndyTiedye   Jan-09-11 03:43 PM   #211 
  - Is it Fascism Yet??  BrklynLiberal   Jan-08-11 12:59 PM   #104 
  - I'm SURE it's to help us not have to remember ALL those passwords of ours! NOT for any DATA-BASE!  WinkyDink   Jan-08-11 01:03 PM   #105 
  - Enhancing privacy with an ID!! Yes... yes that is right  high density   Jan-08-11 02:22 PM   #111 
  - +10000000000 nt  woo me with science   Jan-08-11 05:41 PM   #127 
  - "Enhancing privacy with an ID!!"  christx30   Jan-08-11 05:59 PM   #136 
  - What a progressive idea!  somone   Jan-08-11 02:34 PM   #112 
  - Seems "progressive" to me, but I make a huge distinction between "progressive" and "liberal,."  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 09:03 AM   #199 
  - how can they make me have an american internet id  reggie the dog   Jan-08-11 04:28 PM   #113 
  - The USA is Generally Better About Internet Privacy than France  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 05:44 PM   #130 
     - how?  reggie the dog   Jan-09-11 01:08 PM   #208 
  - This is, hands down, the dumbest idea ever  toddaa   Jan-08-11 05:12 PM   #120 
  - "No chance that a centralized database will emerge...."  Gormy Cuss   Jan-08-11 05:29 PM   #124 
  - It is Just a Certificate and Key. You Choose When and Where to Use It  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 05:47 PM   #131 
     - Really? Your financial institution can't require the use as part of the TOS?  Gormy Cuss   Jan-08-11 06:00 PM   #137 
        - You Don't Get to be Anonymous With Your Bank Anyway  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 06:17 PM   #143 
           - Who said anything about anonymity within the financial institution?  Gormy Cuss   Jan-08-11 06:40 PM   #148 
  - Horrible...just horrible.  krabigirl   Jan-08-11 05:42 PM   #128 
  - Who will profit from this?  subterranean   Jan-08-11 05:54 PM   #133 
  - This sort of thing is already being done  high density   Jan-08-11 05:59 PM   #135 
  - Way to much government control now, Internet ID no thanks big brother.  sarcasmo   Jan-08-11 06:10 PM   #140 
  - It's to be expected. Obama and the teabaggers are paid for by the same  Vidar   Jan-08-11 06:10 PM   #141 
  - Whats next? Barcodes on the back of the neck or just a Chip?  Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel   Jan-08-11 06:31 PM   #144 
  - Self delete-dupe  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 09:15 AM   #200 
  - Forehead or hand.  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 09:15 AM   #201 
  - Are you friggin' kidding me?!!  I Have A Dream   Jan-08-11 06:34 PM   #147 
  - One more potential for big brother to watch our every move. Sucks big time to me.  williesgirl   Jan-08-11 06:54 PM   #150 
  - To hell with him. n/t  Catherina   Jan-08-11 06:54 PM   #151 
  - Wow. He's going to end up making * look like a commie pinko.  Edweird   Jan-08-11 07:28 PM   #154 
  - why just Americans why not other countries  lovuian   Jan-08-11 08:15 PM   #159 
  - I hate to say it, but as of now I think I'd prefer Bush in the White House. (nt)  w4rma   Jan-08-11 08:36 PM   #161 
  - I Can't Bear to See a Fellow Ham So Upset  AndyTiedye   Jan-08-11 09:08 PM   #165 
  - More:  ProSense   Jan-08-11 09:42 PM   #166 
  - Good luck with that, Mr. President.  BlueIris   Jan-08-11 09:44 PM   #167 
  - Sounds like bullshit to me  bluestateguy   Jan-09-11 01:33 AM   #168 
  - Yeah, not as though any of those stories ever turn out to be 100% right.  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 05:06 AM   #170 
  - Land of the Free  panzerfaust   Jan-09-11 05:39 AM   #173 
  - How could anything possibly go wrong?  No Elephants   Jan-09-11 10:11 AM   #203 
  - I call dibs on Rusty Shackleford and Jamastiene as usernames.  Jamastiene   Jan-09-11 10:30 AM   #204 
  - The hell with that  Ter   Jan-09-11 11:45 AM   #205 
 

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