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nyy1998 Donating Member (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-11 12:23 AM
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21. Oh please, most educational wonks think that the unions have stood in the way
of actually progress. He's not paying them any less or getting rid of benefits or anything like that. He's just getting rid of the incompetent or ineffective teachers. I'm sorry, while I generally like unions, I have to go against the teacher's unions on Race to the Top.
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  -Obama Looks to Reagan Legacy as Way to Move Agenda in Congress AlphaCentauri  Jan-02-11 11:24 PM   #0 
  - He needs to stop revering our party's biggest enemy  DJ13   Jan-02-11 11:25 PM   #1 
  - I dont see it as him revering Reagan but rather he is trying  cstanleytech   Jan-02-11 11:50 PM   #10 
  - And there are no inspiring Democrats he could read about  sabrina 1   Jan-02-11 11:57 PM   #12 
  - He's not following through on Reagan's policies, but rather his means of getting bills through  nyy1998   Jan-03-11 12:18 AM   #20 
     - The 'Reagan model' was a disaster.  sabrina 1   Jan-03-11 12:30 AM   #23 
        - I hate to break it to you, but...  Axrendale   Jan-03-11 08:03 AM   #47 
        - Valuable context!  CBHagman   Jan-03-11 11:37 AM   #62 
        - I thought under FDR the repugs took the house after two years  newspeak   Jan-03-11 11:51 AM   #63 
        - The Nazi's were masters at organization  Hawkowl   Jan-03-11 01:58 PM   #70 
        - Of all the stretches to bring the Nazis into a discussion I've seen on the internets over the years,  apocalypsehow   Jan-03-11 03:47 PM   #76 
        - You are ignoring the fact that LBJ had a large contingency of  sabrina 1   Jan-03-11 02:03 PM   #71 
        - Any bill that favors big business and fat cats over the  newspeak   Jan-03-11 11:32 AM   #61 
  - on one hand i'm disappointed that obama's acting like this  alp227   Jan-03-11 09:22 PM   #81 
  - Reagan and the GOP loved workers' unions...in Poland.  jasigirl33   Jan-05-11 10:25 AM   #94 
  - Yes, refusing to learn from our enemies is a *great* idea  Recursion   Jan-03-11 12:26 AM   #22 
  - Obama is a little long in the tooth to be resorting to cautionary tales.  EFerrari   Jan-03-11 02:02 AM   #35 
  - An excellent suggestion.  Axrendale   Jan-03-11 08:05 AM   #48 
  - I know.  LisaM   Jan-04-11 12:06 PM   #91 
  - This is encouraging  mr_liberal   Jan-02-11 11:27 PM   #2 
  - I think Gergen should be in a re-education camp along with all the  Hardrada   Jan-02-11 11:39 PM   #4 
  - You are a totalitarian  democrat2thecore   Jan-04-11 12:38 AM   #86 
     - O my Goodness! I must have forgotten the sarcasm "thingy!"  Hardrada   Jan-04-11 11:35 PM   #92 
  - I see you were going for the ironic angle when you chose your nickname for this site.  liberation   Jan-02-11 11:42 PM   #7 
  - Did I miss something?  laconicsax   Jan-02-11 11:36 PM   #3 
  - Good point.  Hardrada   Jan-02-11 11:39 PM   #5 
  - In one of the many alternative realities...  liberation   Jan-02-11 11:43 PM   #8 
  - I was wondering the same thing. I remember wondering why he  sabrina 1   Jan-03-11 12:01 AM   #13 
  - Yeah, really! I read that and was all like "What. The. Fuck.???"  kath   Jan-03-11 12:37 AM   #24 
  - I had to laugh when I saw that line --  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-03-11 10:00 AM   #55 
  - I guess he hasn't read too much about Reagan...the incompetent president and Union buster  demosincebirth   Jan-02-11 11:42 PM   #6 
  - Actually he was decent enough, not as good as some others of course but not  cstanleytech   Jan-02-11 11:52 PM   #11 
  - Any Union buster and anti-unionist are all in the same class....Scum!  demosincebirth   Jan-03-11 12:05 AM   #14 
  - He wasn't decent to all the people who died of AIDs while he ignored it  EFerrari   Jan-03-11 12:12 AM   #17 
  - HUH?!??? He did an INCREDIBLE amount of damage to this country, in so many ways.  kath   Jan-03-11 12:39 AM   #25 
  - Raygun's admin was a seedbed for Junior's misadministration. n/t  EFerrari   Jan-03-11 12:43 AM   #26 
  - Junior was Saint Ronnie on steroids.  Lasher   Jan-03-11 12:59 AM   #29 
     - It really is a nightmare -  kath   Jan-03-11 01:29 AM   #32 
     - No, he's not.  Lord Magus   Jan-03-11 09:39 PM   #83 
        - Watch what he does, not what he says.  Lasher   Jan-04-11 05:17 AM   #88 
  - But Ronnie loved unions.........in Poland. Remember? nt  jasigirl33   Jan-05-11 10:27 AM   #95 
  - He was a union busting scumbag and on top of that he promoted the failed trickle down BS.  Javaman   Jan-03-11 09:25 AM   #52 
  - Actually, he did very well for his patrons...  rfranklin   Jan-03-11 09:59 AM   #54 
     - True, the wealthy made out like bandits.  Javaman   Jan-03-11 11:12 AM   #59 
  - If you really think that about Ronnie Raygun --  Hell Hath No Fury   Jan-03-11 10:03 AM   #57 
  - .. the attacks on teachers is an indirect assault on their union ... one of the biggest ....  defendandprotect   Jan-03-11 12:17 AM   #19 
     - Oh please, most educational wonks think that the unions have stood in the way  nyy1998   Jan-03-11 12:23 AM   #21 
        - Progress, my granny. They're privatizing our school system  EFerrari   Jan-03-11 12:50 AM   #28 
        - Privatizing how? By letting charter schools come into existence.  nyy1998   Jan-03-11 01:32 PM   #67 
           - The charter school industry fixes their numbers  EFerrari   Jan-03-11 01:47 PM   #69 
           - I've using the New Republic, they've been covering this issue pretty closely themselves and  nyy1998   Jan-03-11 04:08 PM   #77 
           - It has the potential to work as well as privatizing our police force, or fire department ... !!  defendandprotect   Jan-03-11 03:25 PM   #73 
        - Democrats support strong teacher's unions.  corpseratemedia   Jan-03-11 05:56 AM   #40 
        - No, they supports Unions in general, but there's plenty of Dems, that's willing to go against a  nyy1998   Jan-03-11 01:27 PM   #65 
           - "Plenty" of Democrats are effected by right wing propaganda ....  defendandprotect   Jan-03-11 03:28 PM   #74 
           - Little Boot's "no child left behind" BS  newspeak   Jan-03-11 09:35 PM   #82 
        - Obama agenda is to support charter schools ... and Obama/Duncan are carrying out that agenda....  defendandprotect   Jan-03-11 03:24 PM   #72 
           - You misread my posts, I didn't say the teachers are, just union leadership  nyy1998   Jan-03-11 04:13 PM   #78 
              - If you're in favor of charter schools, you are in favor of attacking teachers and unions ....  defendandprotect   Jan-03-11 04:29 PM   #79 
                 - Your argument makes no sense nt  nyy1998   Jan-04-11 12:28 AM   #85 
  - I guess he's angling for what we'll refer to in the future as "Obama Democrats."  PSPS   Jan-02-11 11:46 PM   #9 
  - Whatever happened to Democrats looking up to Democrats? Like Franklin D. Roosevelt?  Octafish   Jan-03-11 12:08 AM   #15 
  - This year is the centennial of Raygun's birth.  EFerrari   Jan-03-11 12:14 AM   #18 
     - We need a Gipperpalooza, DU Style.  Octafish   Jan-03-11 08:37 PM   #80 
  - He's going tostart taking more naps? Need more aides to tell him where he is?  Thor_MN   Jan-03-11 12:08 AM   #16 
  - How fucking inspirational  somone   Jan-03-11 12:47 AM   #27 
  - #3 cartoon sums it up perfectly  corpseratemedia   Jan-03-11 05:59 AM   #41 
     - Excellent toon.....and yes, it does some up our problems with the low-info voters. nt/  whathehell   Jan-03-11 08:19 AM   #50 
  - I don't ever want to see the  Golden Raisin   Jan-03-11 01:08 AM   #30 
  - + a brazillion.  kath   Jan-03-11 01:34 AM   #33 
  - +1000  avaistheone1   Jan-03-11 01:53 AM   #34 
  - Is there anything else to concede or give up? I think we covered everything  Safetykitten   Jan-03-11 01:20 AM   #31 
  - Reagan was a B-rated actor and at best a B-rated President  Larkspur   Jan-03-11 03:08 AM   #36 
  - Reagan legacy?  PoliticAverse   Jan-03-11 03:22 AM   #37 
  - quelle shock! nt  xchrom   Jan-03-11 03:37 AM   #38 
  - It's really sad when good kids fall in with a bad crowd.  GaltFreeDiet   Jan-03-11 04:06 AM   #39 
  - Maybe he plans to run as an Indy next time?  Hubert Flottz   Jan-03-11 06:17 AM   #42 
  - obama does`t have a clue about reagan and the 80`s......  madrchsod   Jan-03-11 07:06 AM   #43 
  - Reagan? FUCK THAT NOISE!  Odin2005   Jan-03-11 07:18 AM   #44 
  - no excuse...  kgnu_fan   Jan-03-11 07:20 AM   #45 
  - Great, he's gonna use one of the WORST to be a role model  RoccoR5955   Jan-03-11 07:51 AM   #46 
  - Mr. President, rather than reading the Reagan biography, I suggest  ladjf   Jan-03-11 08:16 AM   #49 
  - Oh how wonderful, David Gergen!!  Jefferson23   Jan-03-11 08:40 AM   #51 
  - Oh well...  Javaman   Jan-03-11 09:31 AM   #53 
  - Typical.  TacticalPeek   Jan-03-11 10:02 AM   #56 
  - AACK!  Joanne98   Jan-03-11 10:06 AM   #58 
  - Nice choice of role models  timtom   Jan-03-11 11:18 AM   #60 
  - We have Reagan II, when we needed FDR II  alarimer   Jan-03-11 12:19 PM   #64 
  - Drones are illegal now?  Lord Magus   Jan-03-11 09:41 PM   #84 
  - If This is the Case, he is Soft in the Noggin  fascisthunter   Jan-03-11 01:31 PM   #66 
  - Do the people getting upset about this  SpartanDem   Jan-03-11 01:34 PM   #68 
  - You're right, of course, but these responses just astound me  democrat2thecore   Jan-04-11 12:47 AM   #87 
     - I'm old enough to remember LBJ  Art_from_Ark   Jan-04-11 08:53 AM   #89 
  - 2011 is the Year of the Reagasm  BuelahWitch   Jan-03-11 03:45 PM   #75 
  - Since Reagan made this country so much more conservative,  mvd   Jan-04-11 11:59 AM   #90 
  - We're in a near-depression, Obama should look to FDR, not Reagan who led us into a Recession...  defendandprotect   Jan-04-11 11:53 PM   #93 
  - FUCK. RONALD. REAGAN.  PurityOfEssence   Jan-05-11 02:11 PM   #96 
 

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