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Sun Jan-02-11 10:28 PM
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| 89. He represents one of the biggest oil-producing countries in the world. |
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His refusal to hand over his oil to Multi Nationals causes fear that other oil producing countries might get the insane idea that their oil belongs to them.
You could say the same thing about Saddam Hussein. How many people had even heard of him in this country until the first Gulf War? But those who stand to profit from oil were obsessed with him. Why? Because he stopped being a compliant puppet regarding Iraq's oil.
All the denials that the War in Iraq was about oil, were shot down when Kucinich revealed the clause in one of the war funding bills, demanding that Iraq's new government hand over over 80% of their oil to Multi Nationals. Kucinich was threatened with sanctions for informing the American people of what the war was really all about.
Ordinary people may not talk or care about Chavez, but to the PTBs, he is an obsession. If you've missed the obsession with Chavez over the past ten years, then you haven't been paying attention. This is not about him specifically, it is about oil, as it always is. And he is standing in the way of all those profits because he has the crazy idea that Venezuela's oil belongs to the people of Venezuela.
We weren't paying attention to Iraq and as a result were taken by surprise when the leaders of this country took this country to war there. Most people fell for the lies, that it was about 'terror'. This time, I hope people will not be taken by surprise regarding Venezuela.
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| -Without ambassadors, US-Venezuela tensions grow |
discocrisco01 |
Jan-01-11 11:49 AM |
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Oh my goodness, can the planet survive? |
bemildred |
Jan-01-11 11:53 AM |
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If the US keeps the pressure up, not likely |
me b zola |
Jan-01-11 01:57 PM |
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I'm OK with it n/t |
Bacchus39 |
Jan-01-11 02:09 PM |
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This is really dumb on the part of the Obama administration. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-01-11 11:54 AM |
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What was openly offensive? |
Zorro |
Jan-01-11 11:59 AM |
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What else would you call a professional diplomat disrespecting |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-01-11 08:53 PM |
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It's dumb because it makes the US look thuggish and clumsy |
EFerrari |
Jan-01-11 12:10 PM |
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Here are the responses in question |
Zorro |
Jan-01-11 12:21 PM |
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For the Senate to invite a prospective ambassador to criticize the country |
EFerrari |
Jan-01-11 12:38 PM |
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It seems a fair and relevant question. |
Lasher |
Jan-02-11 04:18 AM |
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It's not, actually. It's a reframing of the issue. |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 02:26 PM |
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Isn't it you who is trying to reframe this? |
Lasher |
Jan-02-11 03:08 PM |
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Venezuela doesn't need my support. |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 03:17 PM |
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I don't know if Palmer said anything like that or not. |
Lasher |
Jan-03-11 12:06 AM |
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Mark Weisbrot lays it out very clearly here. |
EFerrari |
Jan-03-11 12:24 AM |
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OK, now we're getting somewhere. |
Lasher |
Jan-03-11 03:38 AM |
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Jan-01-11 01:48 PM |
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All of it is offensive. |
ronnie624 |
Jan-02-11 10:01 AM |
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JDPriestly |
molly77 |
Jan-01-11 12:37 PM |
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The Clinton administration??? |
Beacool |
Jan-01-11 03:40 PM |
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Plan Colombia started under POTUS Clinton |
PufPuf23 |
Jan-02-11 07:21 PM |
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I don't like Chavez because he acts like a megalomaniac. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-02-11 01:00 AM |
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Thats the problem with socialism. |
johnroshan |
Jan-03-11 12:22 AM |
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+1000 |
DeSwiss |
Jan-03-11 12:59 AM |
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Like him or not, he's legally elected by his countrymen. |
martymar64 |
Jan-03-11 07:37 PM |
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Why do you understand that this administration would not like |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-01-11 03:15 PM |
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Chavez is a self-declared adversary of the US |
Zorro |
Jan-01-11 04:23 PM |
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No, he is not and has said so over and over again. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-01-11 04:48 PM |
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This administration has continued the abhorrent Bush Policies? |
Zorro |
Jan-01-11 05:14 PM |
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WikiLeaks Honduras: State Department Busted on Support of Coup |
EFerrari |
Jan-01-11 05:28 PM |
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So was it a "military" coup? |
Zorro |
Jan-01-11 06:10 PM |
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According to your government, it absolutely was. |
EFerrari |
Jan-01-11 06:19 PM |
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Pay attention now |
Zorro |
Jan-01-11 07:07 PM |
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You need to direct your incorrect analysis to the State Department. |
EFerrari |
Jan-01-11 07:13 PM |
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Dupe |
Zorro |
Jan-01-11 06:10 PM |
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Evo Morales, among other South American leaders disagree with |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-01-11 05:40 PM |
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Evo Morales is an expert on the US role in Honduras? |
Zorro |
Jan-01-11 05:58 PM |
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Order out of chaos? You mean, the silence of the grave, don't you? |
EFerrari |
Jan-01-11 06:14 PM |
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You are apparently someone who assumes a lot. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-01-11 06:47 PM |
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I am a member of the reality-based community |
Zorro |
Jan-01-11 07:02 PM |
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He seems to be universally shunned, for sure. |
EFerrari |
Jan-01-11 07:12 PM |
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Wow. Those photo ops are certainly conclusive proof that he is |
COLGATE4 |
Jan-01-11 09:55 PM |
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There is genuine warmth and camaraderie in the photos. |
ronnie624 |
Jan-02-11 10:13 AM |
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I made no such claim. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 02:13 PM |
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Thanks for posting these photos. They are completely representative of EVERYTHING we've learned |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-02-11 04:33 AM |
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Dupe |
Zorro |
Jan-02-11 12:24 PM |
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The 2010 Latinobarometro polling |
Zorro |
Jan-02-11 12:24 PM |
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Here I'll make it easy for you |
Zorro |
Jan-02-11 01:49 PM |
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This is a claim made over and over and over and for years |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 02:19 PM |
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I see |
Zorro |
Jan-02-11 03:21 PM |
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You have an entire -- poll vs. repeated, clean re-election |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 03:26 PM |
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Heard you the first time |
Zorro |
Jan-02-11 06:49 PM |
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Ahh, the DLC.... |
DeSwiss |
Jan-03-11 01:02 AM |
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With that vast background in Latin America I can see how you |
COLGATE4 |
Jan-01-11 09:58 PM |
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The butchery of Uribe is not a secret. |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 02:22 PM |
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Why, thank you. I can opine on the Civil War also, and even the |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-02-11 11:42 PM |
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You find many people who love the US and hate Chavez. |
bitchkitty |
Jan-02-11 07:54 PM |
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You obviously didn't read the 2010 Latinobarometro report either |
Zorro |
Jan-02-11 08:02 PM |
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Well duh. When has the US EVER interfered when there was a coup |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-01-11 09:28 PM |
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Not to mention this administration's support of the coup in Honduras |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jan-01-11 09:26 PM |
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Jan-02-11 08:37 AM |
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The goal of the U.S. political power structure, |
ronnie624 |
Jan-02-11 10:46 AM |
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If the US wanted to dominate SA, they would have done it long ago. |
Bluest Dog |
Jan-02-11 04:04 PM |
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Um, they did since long ago. However, BushCo was so obsessed |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 04:06 PM |
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Jan-02-11 04:05 PM |
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nobody here thinks he's a god, but some do think he is the devil |
fascisthunter |
Jan-02-11 01:54 PM |
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Jan-02-11 04:06 PM |
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Go away. |
Hardrada |
Jan-03-11 12:32 AM |
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Chavez is a self-described adversary of imperial policy |
EFerrari |
Jan-01-11 04:52 PM |
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+1 |
roody |
Jan-01-11 05:34 PM |
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Is Obama getting ready for another war? |
roody |
Jan-01-11 11:59 AM |
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Well as somebody pointed out here recently |
tularetom |
Jan-01-11 12:35 PM |
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"Wars". Without legally-declaring them, naturally. |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-01-11 12:57 PM |
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And the unhappys are #1 in complaining about the USA. |
jaxx |
Jan-01-11 12:59 PM |
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Excuse me, but some of us find solutions to the problems that |
InkAddict |
Jan-01-11 01:40 PM |
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Yes, you made my point quite well. |
jaxx |
Jan-01-11 02:20 PM |
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Compare the US' defense budget with the rest of the world's. |
roody |
Jan-01-11 05:37 PM |
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let us all know when you find solutions from those you defend |
fascisthunter |
Jan-02-11 01:53 PM |
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Sometimes I think my problem is I remember when Jackie Kennedy went to Paris |
EFerrari |
Jan-01-11 01:55 PM |
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You're not old, just reasonable |
me b zola |
Jan-01-11 02:09 PM |
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It's not hard to be more reasonable than Senate Republicans. |
EFerrari |
Jan-01-11 03:05 PM |
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Happy New Year to you, E |
me b zola |
Jan-01-11 10:02 PM |
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no, your wisdom is shared and ageless |
fascisthunter |
Jan-02-11 01:53 PM |
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No. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jan-01-11 05:23 PM |
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I hope you are right. |
roody |
Jan-02-11 01:20 PM |
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Why would the tension grow |
dipsydoodle |
Jan-01-11 04:38 PM |
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Ever been in a bad marriage? |
ret5hd |
Jan-01-11 05:11 PM |
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Not too disturbing. |
CJvR |
Jan-01-11 07:03 PM |
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The lack of attention must drive Chavez nuts. nt |
hack89 |
Jan-02-11 07:56 AM |
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On the contrary, |
ronnie624 |
Jan-02-11 12:43 PM |
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Chavez's actions generate plenty of negativity |
hack89 |
Jan-02-11 04:55 PM |
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It's sort of bizarre that our government pushes 2 or 3 negative articles a week |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 02:28 PM |
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He can't stand the idea that we don't really need an ambassador |
hack89 |
Jan-02-11 04:53 PM |
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And you know this how? |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 04:56 PM |
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Well, he really is insignificant on the world stage. |
hack89 |
Jan-02-11 04:59 PM |
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True, so why is the U.S. government so obsessed with him? |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-02-11 09:15 PM |
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I don't think they are |
hack89 |
Jan-02-11 09:58 PM |
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He represents one of the biggest oil-producing countries in the world. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-02-11 10:28 PM |
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Yet he has no choice but to sell us all they oil he can |
hack89 |
Jan-02-11 10:38 PM |
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No, we are the ones in the bind as one of the most voracious |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-02-11 11:31 PM |
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So he gets in bed with the most cut throat capitalists in the world? |
hack89 |
Jan-03-11 05:17 AM |
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Lol, so it's okay for the U.S. to get in bed with China. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-03-11 01:31 PM |
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You missed my point completely |
hack89 |
Jan-03-11 06:34 PM |
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You're saying there was no coup, backed by the U.S. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-03-11 08:02 PM |
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Baloney. There is a concerted and ongoing multimilion dollar infowar |
EFerrari |
Jan-02-11 11:46 PM |
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Only in your imagination. |
hack89 |
Jan-03-11 05:19 AM |
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Yeah, it's just my imagination! |
EFerrari |
Jan-03-11 01:38 PM |
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no real tension will arise, just posturing by an ineffective and dishonest US government |
fascisthunter |
Jan-02-11 01:59 PM |
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