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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 10:45 PM
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65. Seems like easing the suffering of the sick
is something we could all agree is a good thing. If only we could get the "Christians" on the right to go along with it. Sadly where dollar signs are involved they push personal faith to the back burner.
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  -Kucinich: GOP push against healthcare law could revive single-payer push cal04  Jan-01-11 10:45 AM   #0 
  - Indeed! Thanks Pukes (NT)  fascisthunter   Jan-01-11 10:46 AM   #1 
  - I want what Kucinich is smoking nt  LARED   Jan-01-11 10:47 AM   #2 
  - That would be nice, but I like to share.  Jackpine Radical   Jan-01-11 10:51 AM   #3 
  - Obama was smoking the same stuff back in 2004, when  truedelphi   Jan-01-11 07:28 PM   #51 
  - BUT when Obama ran for president he ALWAYS said the single-payer was NOT  Tx4obama   Jan-02-11 01:57 AM   #71 
     - BUT when Obama ran for president he ALWAYS said the public option was essential.  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 04:59 AM   #77 
     - Yeah, I know, no elephants.  truedelphi   Jan-02-11 03:41 PM   #119 
        - I recall very well, not that specific statement, but one very like it.  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 04:01 PM   #122 
     - we need to start from scratch.  haydukelives   Jan-02-11 10:42 AM   #99 
  - Obama should have smoked it two years ago..  sendero   Jan-02-11 07:04 AM   #85 
  - Think About It - This Is A Great Strategy To Get The Repugs To Back Off Repeal Of HCR......  global1   Jan-01-11 10:52 AM   #4 
  - Well he made some very good points that every Dem defending this bill should use  nyy1998   Jan-01-11 12:01 PM   #7 
  - Limiting medical loss ratios have no effect whatsoever on premiums  eridani   Jan-02-11 02:22 AM   #72 
  - Some threat  customerserviceguy   Jan-01-11 01:04 PM   #12 
  - The next great President we have will campaign on and establish single payer.  Skink   Jan-01-11 04:11 PM   #36 
  - Dream on.  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 05:43 AM   #79 
     - Thanks for reminding us.  avaistheone1   Jan-02-11 11:19 AM   #105 
        - Damned death panels!  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 01:26 PM   #110 
  - Clearly, what Dennis MEANT  Ken Burch   Jan-01-11 08:21 PM   #59 
  - Gee, I thought we already worked and donated for that from 11/04 thru 11/08. (Pls see Reply 77,)  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 05:32 AM   #78 
  - The Dems killed single payer  RBitt   Jan-02-11 06:31 AM   #83 
     - Well it is certainly a "fact in evidence".  sendero   Jan-02-11 07:07 AM   #86 
  - Push back from them left  me b zola   Jan-01-11 01:10 PM   #13 
  - Well, exactly!!! that is what should have been tried from the get-go  MadLinguist   Jan-01-11 02:12 PM   #22 
  - Refreshing ain't it?  Enthusiast   Jan-01-11 02:46 PM   #24 
     - Yes indeedy!  me b zola   Jan-03-11 12:47 AM   #125 
  - I'm with you. Go Dennis go.  Larry L. Burks   Jan-01-11 01:42 PM   #17 
  - Between the DLC, er, I mean the DNC, the Citizens United decision and the historic  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 05:55 AM   #80 
  - Only problem is we couldn't get single payer with a Democratic majority.  MilesColtrane   Jan-01-11 01:53 PM   # 
     - Hardly.  Enthusiast   Jan-01-11 03:01 PM   #26 
     - reversing direction on a narrow dirt road with steep drop off  nannah   Jan-01-11 03:59 PM   #35 
     - Thank you, nannah.  Enthusiast   Jan-02-11 04:09 AM   #75 
     - I am tired of being cynical, too, even though I only started being  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 07:02 AM   #84 
        - your words make just as much sense as do mine  nannah   Jan-02-11 11:18 AM   #104 
           - You seem like a wonderful poster. I look forward to reading more of your posts.  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 03:28 PM   #117 
              - thank you :)  nannah   Jan-02-11 03:50 PM   #120 
     - What's the evidence of this awakening?  Beartracks   Jan-02-11 01:49 AM   #70 
        - 70% + of the American people polled  Enthusiast   Jan-02-11 04:18 AM   #76 
           - Only until the NRA, Koch brothers/Tea Party, RW media, etc. really ramped up.  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 07:17 AM   #87 
     - We could have had single payer had the WH not wanted Romneycare  Hydra   Jan-01-11 05:54 PM   #42 
     - They never made a serious run at single payer.  dflprincess   Jan-01-11 09:54 PM   #63 
     - Single payor was off the table from the primaries.  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 07:32 AM   #88 
     - *couldn't get it*?Single payer was NEVER on the backroom deal made for the legislation  Donnachaidh   Jan-01-11 11:14 PM   #68 
     - And we needed only 50 plus Biden. But I have less than zero problem with at least appearing feisty,  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 06:05 AM   #81 
  - They actually think people favor keeping the insurance and pharmaceutical  brewens   Jan-01-11 10:54 AM   #5 
  - Wouldn't that be ironic  Drale   Jan-01-11 11:42 AM   #6 
  - Think he'll weep for joy? I know I would.  freshwest   Jan-01-11 12:07 PM   #9 
     - O he'll be crying alright but not in joy  Drale   Jan-01-11 12:10 PM   #10 
        - Because he'll lose the insurance company checks to hand out on the floor of Congress.  freshwest   Jan-01-11 12:36 PM   #11 
  - We'll get it state by state. California is first.  roody   Jan-01-11 12:01 PM   #8 
  - Be careful - Massachusetts got it first - right in the keister.  Flatulo   Jan-01-11 01:20 PM   #14 
  - That is why we  Enthusiast   Jan-01-11 03:04 PM   #28 
  - Word  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 08:18 AM   #91 
  - kindly  sweetapogee   Jan-01-11 01:46 PM   #18 
  - Well ya know, if we had Senators and Congress people that could think on their feet  truedelphi   Jan-01-11 07:34 PM   #52 
     - so then  sweetapogee   Jan-01-11 09:23 PM   #62 
     - Does your second question read as you intended?  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 08:22 AM   #92 
     - California is supposed to receive a good deal of money from the Feds to  truedelphi   Jan-02-11 03:24 PM   #116 
     - Ow! That hurts. But true...  freshwest   Jan-02-11 02:55 PM   #114 
  - Actually, Vermont might be first.  subterranean   Jan-01-11 05:58 PM   #43 
  - I believe that smaller, in general, is more efficient.  roody   Jan-01-11 07:22 PM   #50 
     - Any evidence on which that belief is based? Town in which I grew up was  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 08:03 AM   #90 
        - Here is an example---solar energy production.  roody   Jan-02-11 01:19 PM   #109 
           - ONE example?  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 02:43 PM   #113 
  - Whatever it takes!  freshwest   Jan-01-11 06:42 PM   #46 
  - Vermont is going first, possibly this year if they can get a waiver. The problem with  eridani   Jan-02-11 02:37 AM   #74 
  - Yes please!! We still desperately need it.  Overseas   Jan-01-11 01:29 PM   #15 
  - If you cannot enforce a right in court, you may have semantics or rhetoric about  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 08:37 AM   #93 
     - I hope we will move forward and make that happen. //nt  Overseas   Jan-02-11 04:08 PM   #123 
  - Lets do! We just lost our healthcare and I need some dental work.  earcandle   Jan-01-11 01:37 PM   #16 
  - Even single payor, aka Medicare for all, would not cover dental.  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 07:48 AM   #89 
     - Funny how that works... everything that comes into your mouth can source your disease, but the mouth  earcandle   Jan-04-11 09:30 AM   #129 
  - I hope he is right..but I still wish that Dems, Libs, etc would not legitimize FAUX NOISE by  BrklynLiberal   Jan-01-11 01:52 PM   #19 
  - Because the alternative is to give Fox free reign and purity of message  demwing   Jan-01-11 02:52 PM   #25 
  - Sounds like he used it as a forum to say what never gets said there, what Fox listeners never hear.  Demit   Jan-01-11 03:03 PM   #27 
  - Every time a Dem goes on FAUX news:  howmad1   Jan-01-11 06:42 PM   #47 
  - Exactly right  Doctor_J   Jan-01-11 10:53 PM   #67 
     - I feel the same way you do....  BrklynLiberal   Jan-02-11 09:56 AM   #98 
  - Ahmen Dennis!  penndragon69   Jan-01-11 01:53 PM   #20 
  - What a guy! :) n/t  Duval   Jan-01-11 02:08 PM   #21 
  - Bring it, Dennis!  Enthusiast   Jan-01-11 02:42 PM   #23 
  - Kick and rec  Kingofalldems   Jan-01-11 03:04 PM   #29 
  - As long as the DLC controls  hulka38   Jan-01-11 03:08 PM   #30 
  - Really? Have any evidence of that? Oh wait,,,,,never mind.  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 06:20 AM   #82 
  - talk talk talk  texshelters   Jan-01-11 03:30 PM   #31 
  - Death panels.  Atypical Liberal   Jan-01-11 03:33 PM   #32 
  - I think Kucinich is really, really stretching on this.  robcon   Jan-01-11 03:43 PM   #33 
  - Necessity is the mother of invention  bhikkhu   Jan-01-11 03:50 PM   #34 
  - not this congress, probably not the next one either, but maybe...  0rganism   Jan-01-11 05:27 PM   #40 
  - The first step is recognizing that the 'reform' just passed will NOT  RaleighNCDUer   Jan-01-11 06:47 PM   #49 
  - Maybe it will happen when we have a Democratic president and majorities in both houses.  elocs   Jan-01-11 07:50 PM   #55 
     - we also need a public educated on the issue  0rganism   Jan-03-11 12:04 AM   #124 
  - Depends on his reasons for saying it. Since when is every pronouncement by a politician  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 09:08 AM   #95 
  - Who cares?  primavera   Jan-04-11 09:43 AM   #130 
  - I luvs ya Dennis! Keep up with the work...  SoapBox   Jan-01-11 04:22 PM   #37 
  - I think making Medicare available to everyone who  Cleita   Jan-01-11 05:16 PM   #38 
  - Let's hope.  davidwparker   Jan-01-11 05:21 PM   #39 
  - Single payer  tooeyeten   Jan-01-11 05:32 PM   #41 
  - Me, too! And if Kucinich's seat somehow disappears in Ohio, let's get him into the Senate!  Roland99   Jan-01-11 06:03 PM   #44 
     - Excellent idea.  Cleita   Jan-01-11 07:41 PM   #54 
  - YES, yesssss! nt  madmax   Jan-01-11 06:26 PM   #45 
  - Brokerage jobs??  saras   Jan-01-11 06:43 PM   #48 
  - Petition for Federal Election Reform  watstearns   Jan-01-11 07:41 PM   #53 
  - Thanks! I will share that on Facebook! nt  patrice   Jan-01-11 08:42 PM   #61 
  - Thanks, done.  Stardust   Jan-02-11 09:45 AM   #97 
  - Scrap the big gift to Big Insurance...we can't wait until 2014...Single Payer NOW..  lib2DaBone   Jan-01-11 07:56 PM   #56 
  - State by state, and  ProSense   Jan-01-11 07:59 PM   #57 
  - yeah...sure...  SHRED   Jan-01-11 08:09 PM   #58 
  - We should take a stand to defend Medicare Reform, so that it can become Medicare for All and thence  patrice   Jan-01-11 08:39 PM   #60 
  - single payer is dead. I wish they'd quit wasting time on the past.  provis99   Jan-01-11 10:10 PM   #64 
  - The best way to "save" social security is to leave it alone  bhikkhu   Jan-02-11 12:01 PM   #107 
  - Seems like easing the suffering of the sick  raouldukelives   Jan-01-11 10:45 PM   #65 
  - It might make pigs fly over my house too  Doctor_J   Jan-01-11 10:50 PM   #66 
  - Are the unions willing to negotiate away their healthcare now?  boppers   Jan-01-11 11:40 PM   #69 
  - "Cadillac plans" is Right-Wing framing - and those plans are not "free" to workers  bread_and_roses   Jan-02-11 10:49 AM   #103 
  - Health Care Costs To Bankrupt US in 7-8 Years  Chipster   Jan-02-11 02:22 AM   #73 
  - another chance to fold!  mdmc   Jan-02-11 09:06 AM   #94 
  - I favor Medicare for All, but feel that's only a step toward a single payer national health system.  RickFromMN   Jan-02-11 09:27 AM   #96 
  - I suspect we are subsidizing massive ad campaigns  bhikkhu   Jan-02-11 12:00 PM   #106 
  - I do not agree with your entire post, but thanks for a very thoughtful post.  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 03:54 PM   #121 
  - Dennis is an honorable politician.  dotymed   Jan-02-11 10:44 AM   #100 
  - I strongly disagree with your statement  robcon   Jan-02-11 12:15 PM   #108 
     - Heh. Even at his worst, Dennis would do way better than our current president  Zorra   Jan-02-11 02:02 PM   #112 
     - Just look around.  freshwest   Jan-02-11 03:01 PM   #115 
     - No, that is only another way of saying any electorate deserves the government it has and only  No Elephants   Jan-02-11 03:34 PM   #118 
     - I didn't say we didn't need him and more like him.  dotymed   Jan-04-11 08:38 AM   #128 
  - I hope this backfires on those GOP asssholes...for good reason!! n/t  orbitalman   Jan-02-11 10:45 AM   #101 
  - Gee, lemons make lemonade?  lonestarnot   Jan-02-11 10:49 AM   #102 
  - Yummy! Pour me one!  ClassWarrior   Jan-02-11 01:41 PM   #111 
     - !  lonestarnot   Jan-03-11 08:56 PM   #126 
  - "...we'll have a single-payer system,"  unkachuck   Jan-03-11 09:22 PM   #127 

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