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Thu Dec-30-10 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #77 |
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Why stop at mandatory breathalyzer or blood tests? Let's also do a strip search on them. Wanna be safe and all-- they might be a terrorist and/or have some pot on them. Call up Napolitano, she knows all about this shit.
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| -"No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa |
IScreamSundays |
Dec-30-10 11:59 AM |
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Judges who give curb service? |
asjr |
Dec-30-10 12:09 PM |
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How much is that costing the state? |
Tempest |
Dec-30-10 12:20 PM |
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And who's going to be handling the needle? |
KansDem |
Dec-30-10 12:25 PM |
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Good question |
Tempest |
Dec-30-10 12:33 PM |
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They have a RN on site as well to draw the blood. |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-30-10 07:08 PM |
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More cost to the taxpayer. n/t |
Tempest |
Dec-30-10 07:16 PM |
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Also: more up-close and personal. Just like at the airport. |
Ruperto31 |
Jan-01-11 11:58 AM |
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Not sure about Florida, but... |
jmowreader |
Jan-02-11 08:29 PM |
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How many lives will be saved by keeping drunks from driving |
LynneSin |
Dec-30-10 12:46 PM |
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i'll never submit willingly to a roadside sobriety test and w/o it, they won't have probable cause |
CreekDog |
Dec-30-10 01:08 PM |
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In many states |
RSillsbee |
Jan-01-11 06:43 AM |
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"... if the officer smelled alcohol and so forth...." |
Ruperto31 |
Jan-01-11 12:00 PM |
#124 |
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How many lives are being saved by the Patriot Act |
Wednesdays |
Dec-30-10 02:07 PM |
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seriously you can't even compare the 2 |
LynneSin |
Dec-30-10 02:15 PM |
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You don't support the Patriot Act? Why's that? |
Wednesdays |
Dec-30-10 02:16 PM |
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OMG I have never seen such a strawman of such epic proportion |
LynneSin |
Dec-30-10 02:26 PM |
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It's a valid question pertaining to giving up your rights to "save lives" |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 02:48 PM |
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"You don't support the Patriot Act?" Ooh! Ask ME! Ask ME! |
timtom |
Jan-03-11 07:07 AM |
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True , but it is also a way to raise state revenue |
molly77 |
Dec-30-10 02:22 PM |
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You know maybe because I live in the city and I live near an area where drinkers like to go |
LynneSin |
Dec-30-10 02:32 PM |
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Still not a good enough reason to surrender one's rights... |
truebrit71 |
Dec-30-10 03:09 PM |
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Not really surrendering rights |
kanrok |
Dec-30-10 04:06 PM |
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They are stopping you without any cause AT ALL. |
truebrit71 |
Dec-30-10 04:14 PM |
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Well, the stop is another issue entirely |
kanrok |
Dec-30-10 04:37 PM |
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4th amendment protection requires a "reasonable expectation" of privacy |
KurtNYC |
Jan-03-11 07:52 AM |
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You are assuming the judge is there to make an honest assessment .. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 04:22 PM |
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Yes, I am making that assumption |
kanrok |
Dec-30-10 04:27 PM |
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What problem in law enforcement is my first question? That it's too hard? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 04:42 PM |
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I hope you understand |
kanrok |
Dec-30-10 04:50 PM |
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The defendant's rights are not protected when the ... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 04:59 PM |
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+ 1 |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Jan-01-11 12:25 PM |
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I have faith that the police will be pigs, that's it. Screw "having faith". |
Odin2005 |
Dec-30-10 07:44 PM |
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So what's the defendant doing while the judge is "making observations"? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-31-10 07:03 PM |
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I hope that is the subject of a legal challenge. |
ThomCat |
Jan-01-11 01:59 AM |
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F.Y.I. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-30-10 03:13 PM |
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Thank you for posting that...good real world information. |
MindPilot |
Jan-02-11 05:41 PM |
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I just got back from Australia and the "Checking your breath" thing is done all the time. |
BlueJazz |
Dec-30-10 04:25 PM |
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+1 |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-31-10 04:49 PM |
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How many civil liberties must we forgoe for security? |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Jan-01-11 12:09 PM |
#125 |
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We could probably nail a few child pornographers with house-to-house searches |
MindPilot |
Jan-02-11 03:26 PM |
#128 |
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People just love authority over their lives .... no matter the costs, evidently -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-31-10 11:33 AM |
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When I was getting my drivers license |
CC |
Dec-30-10 12:17 PM |
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The concept you seem unable to grasp is refusing the test .... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 12:47 PM |
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If you read I put the condition on if they |
CC |
Dec-30-10 01:34 PM |
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But that's not the way it's working. Is it? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 02:52 PM |
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BTW, you can't permanently give up your 4th and 5th amendment rights.... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 03:11 PM |
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Are you saying that losing a loved one doesn't count? |
Bugenhagen |
Dec-30-10 03:17 PM |
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Where The Constitution is concerned? Absolutely. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 03:32 PM |
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Interesting user name for this thread |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-31-10 05:00 PM |
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LOL. I'm an Aristocrat! See here: |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-31-10 06:55 PM |
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Moderation is the key. It can also be a way to give out tickets |
molly77 |
Dec-30-10 02:24 PM |
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Wow. Stunning. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-30-10 12:18 PM |
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This is such an easily resolved issue - don't drive drunk |
LynneSin |
Dec-30-10 12:49 PM |
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The issue is not drunk driving as much as it is violation of 5th Amendment rights. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-30-10 01:14 PM |
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Another one for the "if you got nothing to hide" file. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 02:43 PM |
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Haley Barbour |
molly77 |
Dec-30-10 02:25 PM |
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Imagine. Strangers sticking a needle in your arm... |
KansDem |
Dec-30-10 12:22 PM |
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Unqualified strangers |
Tempest |
Dec-30-10 12:33 PM |
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It'll get thrown out of court |
Wednesdays |
Dec-30-10 02:12 PM |
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I like your moniker |
howaboutme |
Dec-31-10 10:06 PM |
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As a type 1 diabetic who sticks themselves multiple times a day these idiots will |
Jennicut |
Dec-30-10 02:15 PM |
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Already happening |
Magleetis |
Dec-30-10 12:33 PM |
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What a huge flip-flop |
Submariner |
Dec-30-10 12:59 PM |
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It actually better than questionable breathalyzers |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Dec-30-10 01:31 PM |
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I don't get it... |
Auggie |
Dec-30-10 01:35 PM |
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I think the only thing done on-site is the issuing of the warrant. |
Moosepoop |
Dec-30-10 01:53 PM |
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That makes sense. The OP makes it sounds like blood is drawn on the spot. |
Auggie |
Dec-30-10 02:25 PM |
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I would like to see some confirmation one way or the other. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 02:55 PM |
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Don't be so sure of that. See here: |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 03:35 PM |
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Why doesn't it surprise me that this occurs in Arizona? |
kanrok |
Dec-30-10 04:40 PM |
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Yep. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 04:49 PM |
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On this we agree. |
kanrok |
Dec-30-10 04:51 PM |
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It would depend upon how the state law governing blood draws is written |
kanrok |
Dec-30-10 04:13 PM |
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I know! Appoint every law enforcement officer to be a judge! |
Wednesdays |
Dec-30-10 02:10 PM |
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I don`t drink, and I will refuse. I want to make them spend as much money as possible. |
fatbuckel |
Dec-30-10 02:11 PM |
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Theirs, or yours? |
Wednesdays |
Dec-30-10 02:13 PM |
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Theirs, of coarse. |
fatbuckel |
Dec-30-10 02:42 PM |
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And their money comes from your tax dollars |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-31-10 05:08 PM |
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Only somebody named Unfried could supportt this. |
rug |
Dec-30-10 02:13 PM |
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This shit always sounds like the shit we were told happened in the USSR |
CBGLuthier |
Dec-30-10 02:19 PM |
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Yep. How 'bout it. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 02:46 PM |
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Way to make up garbage. |
Bugenhagen |
Dec-30-10 03:13 PM |
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Yeah, but regardless of how highly we think of Scandinavian countries, ... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 03:53 PM |
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10 foot monsters |
underpants |
Dec-30-10 07:38 PM |
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There are states that don't do this already? |
jeff47 |
Dec-30-10 03:28 PM |
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I think you are missing the point. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-30-10 03:49 PM |
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'Fraid not |
jeff47 |
Dec-31-10 01:02 AM |
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'fraid so. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-31-10 10:08 AM |
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One step closer to Judge Dredd ---> |
onehandle |
Dec-30-10 03:37 PM |
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Welcome to China...or Russia...or "East Germany...or North Korea...or Iran...etc. |
SoapBox |
Dec-30-10 04:00 PM |
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So when are they going to clamp down on texters/cell phone users? |
Dappleganger |
Dec-30-10 04:55 PM |
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never bc the cell phone lobby pays up; the booze lobby stopped paying |
KurtNYC |
Jan-03-11 07:39 AM |
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Hell, make it even better why not just have prosecutors on site as well? |
Rex |
Dec-30-10 05:28 PM |
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Maybe they can pat my junk like they do in the airports...whee this is fun!!! |
U4ikLefty |
Dec-30-10 06:12 PM |
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So much for 4th amendment rights. |
VeryLibGal |
Dec-30-10 06:14 PM |
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Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Sitz |
davepc |
Dec-30-10 08:15 PM |
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Interesting. have to wonder what the layout of the Michigan SCOTUS |
VeryLibGal |
Dec-30-10 09:16 PM |
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I'll save you the work: |
boppers |
Dec-30-10 11:20 PM |
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The "reasonable search" in the case you are citing pertains only to the ... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-31-10 11:05 AM |
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Police state America. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-30-10 07:52 PM |
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"NO REFUSAL" Dui check points could be coming to Tampa |
Bo |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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How is this consitutional? |
midnight |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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Better... Why should anyone be able to deem it necessary? |
Fearless |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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Highest prison population and this will only add to that stat. |
sarcasmo |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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More profit for the privatized prison system. I wonder if we'll stop when |
RKP5637 |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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Arrrrrghhh! |
Towlie |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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Don't pull your hair out. The fascists will test it for drugs. |
Webster Green |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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Not to mention check points are the most expensive way to catch drunk |
mrcheerful |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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Not to mention texting, email and other advanced ways |
Hardrada |
Jan-02-11 11:50 PM |
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We need mobile nude-o-scopes |
high density |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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someone should stick their finger down their throat and vomit into their little tube |
tomm2thumbs |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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You are under arrest |
notesdev |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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To quote a statistic; '40% of all traffic fatalities involve alcohol'. |
The Doctor. |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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Too bad for the drunks! |
PuppyBismark |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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I think you are missing the point. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-31-10 10:57 AM |
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After what I went through, a small needle stick has no meaning to me. |
PuppyBismark |
Dec-31-10 06:56 PM |
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How about representation by an attorney? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-31-10 07:09 PM |
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The suspect is still a suspect, just collecting evidence |
PuppyBismark |
Dec-31-10 07:55 PM |
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Here, you can refuse to blow.... |
BobTheSubgenius |
Dec-30-10 10:22 PM |
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assholes drink and drive |
timo |
Dec-30-10 11:36 PM |
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So you're saying we should get over it? n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-30-10 11:46 PM |
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what I am saying is |
timo |
Dec-31-10 08:13 AM |
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What if you haven't been drinking and you refuse the tests? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-31-10 11:08 AM |
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i think |
timo |
Dec-31-10 04:21 PM |
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Does the defendant get an attorney in your new fangled kangaroo courts? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-31-10 05:02 PM |
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sure |
timo |
Dec-31-10 11:25 PM |
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That has nothing to do with whether or not this violates |
ThomCat |
Jan-01-11 02:13 AM |
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no they need probable cause which isn't being in line for the checkpoint |
CreekDog |
Jan-01-11 04:46 AM |
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Name removed |
Dec-31-10 06:09 AM |
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I'm so afraid of everything that I'll relinguish my Bill of Rights |
howaboutme |
Dec-31-10 05:26 PM |
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Why should we dare question the actions of the benvolent government? |
tabasco |
Dec-31-10 08:19 PM |
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what do you expect? |
Nossida |
Dec-31-10 10:57 PM |
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What is this country coming too |
4dsc |
Jan-01-11 09:04 AM |
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Gee I wonder what they do after their shift is over ? |
NikRik |
Jan-01-11 10:19 AM |
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I live near Las vegas |
newspeak |
Jan-02-11 02:09 PM |
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nothing like fulfilling the stereotype of the "big government liberal" |
MindPilot |
Jan-02-11 04:57 PM |
#129 |
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The whole reason implied consent laws exist. |
MindPilot |
Jan-02-11 05:16 PM |
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MADD= Auto Insurance Lobby n/t |
moriverrat |
Jan-02-11 05:29 PM |
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If I called the cop an a-hole for violating my rights, can he arrest me and impound my car? |
E-Z-B |
Jan-03-11 07:49 AM |
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How do you make a cop hit you in the head with his flashlight ? |
KurtNYC |
Jan-03-11 07:56 AM |
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