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Fri Dec-24-10 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #64 |
| 65. second that and on edit I'll add to that |
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Edited on Fri Dec-24-10 05:48 PM by Bacchus39
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| -Venezuelan students protest university law |
naaman fletcher |
Dec-23-10 01:47 PM |
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Hugo's quite a guy. |
virgogal |
Dec-23-10 02:57 PM |
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The AP propaganda doesn't even describe the new law. |
JackRiddler |
Dec-25-10 11:34 AM |
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Ha, "students". More likely trouble making, rabble rousing |
alex cross |
Dec-23-10 03:41 PM |
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Do you feel the same way about British and Europaean student protesters? |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-23-10 03:59 PM |
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Are you comparing Britain and Europe to Venezuela? |
alex cross |
Dec-23-10 04:01 PM |
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I am comparing authoritarian treatment of students in one country with authoritarian treatment of |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-23-10 04:09 PM |
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+1 n/t |
MrBig |
Dec-23-10 04:54 PM |
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Apples and oranges |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-23-10 11:37 PM |
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"compulsory", education with government control of the curriculum? |
boppers |
Dec-24-10 12:13 AM |
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I don't see anything wrong with it |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-24-10 12:30 AM |
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Pierce v Society of Sisters |
boppers |
Dec-24-10 01:07 AM |
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I guess the SAT and ACT exams set the curricula |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-24-10 10:39 AM |
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Pretty much. Basic knowledge is tested, rather than political perspective. |
boppers |
Dec-24-10 08:51 PM |
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For religious zealots teaching science is indoctrination |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-26-10 01:07 PM |
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Teaching without dissent is a tough issue. |
boppers |
Dec-27-10 12:59 AM |
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Dissent based in lies or based in real history? |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-27-10 10:42 AM |
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Dissent is taught a great deal in the US. |
boppers |
Dec-28-10 12:14 AM |
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I would disagree here about 'socialism'. There is a huge difference between 'socialism' and 'pure |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-28-10 04:06 AM |
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I will agree with you. |
boppers |
Dec-28-10 05:16 AM |
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like in Texas? is that what you mean? |
StarsInHerHair |
Dec-26-10 02:17 AM |
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Yeah, like in Texas. |
boppers |
Dec-27-10 01:08 AM |
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Milton Friedman Liberty Prize? |
JVS |
Dec-27-10 01:50 AM |
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Remember, anyone who disagrees with Chavez is an American spy these days |
Posteritatis |
Dec-24-10 12:04 PM |
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"If he started machine-gunning civilians in the street" is your fantasy. |
JackRiddler |
Dec-26-10 10:57 PM |
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do you have any evidence to support that |
davidinalameda |
Dec-23-10 04:13 PM |
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Does it Matter? |
MrBig |
Dec-23-10 04:53 PM |
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"Wealthy elite" with 300 $/ month |
ChangoLoa |
Dec-24-10 06:38 AM |
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Sounds just like a far right-wing talking point even though it's a far left-wing talking point |
slackmaster |
Dec-23-10 05:16 PM |
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"Authoritarians all sound the same." |
Psephos |
Dec-23-10 10:18 PM |
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BS propaganda... public universities, all social classes. nt |
ChangoLoa |
Dec-24-10 06:26 AM |
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You forgot the 'sarcasm' thingy... |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-24-10 10:09 AM |
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Can you say CIA? |
sulphurdunn |
Dec-23-10 04:10 PM |
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And |
iandhr |
Dec-23-10 04:49 PM |
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One of two attempts against a monster who told his police to open fire on protesters, |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-23-10 05:10 PM |
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So, |
naaman fletcher |
Dec-23-10 05:20 PM |
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Only if they're pro-Chavez as we all should be. nt |
ChangoLoa |
Dec-24-10 06:42 AM |
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Spoken like a true Chavez acoylte. |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-24-10 10:12 AM |
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I think your sarcasm-o-meter is broken. n/t |
msanthrope |
Dec-24-10 01:57 PM |
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To be fair, it gets annoyingly hard to tell in threads like these. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Dec-24-10 04:26 PM |
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They did protest, |
ronnie624 |
Dec-24-10 11:03 AM |
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I guess you think the French Resistance shouldn't have resisted? n/t |
bitchkitty |
Dec-24-10 06:45 AM |
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Didn't we fight back when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-24-10 10:14 AM |
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So, in order to fight against them, let's kick the universities in the teeth. Nice logic. |
ChangoLoa |
Dec-24-10 06:41 AM |
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My comments were not posited |
sulphurdunn |
Dec-24-10 10:42 AM |
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Are you (seriously) suggesting that student protests in Venezuela |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-24-10 10:11 AM |
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Proof? There are libraries of proof. |
sulphurdunn |
Dec-24-10 10:33 AM |
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In other words, you don't have any proof. Thanks for not adding |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-26-10 09:31 AM |
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500 000 dollars is a good incentive to make a student movement in Ve. |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-26-10 01:11 PM |
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Lets see: State control of TV, the Internet, the schools... |
boppers |
Dec-23-10 10:28 PM |
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Has any politician in the US accepted 1/2 million dollars from Cuba or Iran to protest the US |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-23-10 11:44 PM |
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404 on your link.... |
boppers |
Dec-24-10 12:03 AM |
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post #16 |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-24-10 12:06 AM |
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Copy/paste picked up the ellipsis, then. |
boppers |
Dec-24-10 12:10 AM |
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sorry about that n/t |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-24-10 12:31 AM |
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Milton Friedman was snuggling up to the Military Junta in Santiago, |
ronnie624 |
Dec-24-10 11:01 PM |
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Alfred Nobel was responsible for the deaths of millions. |
boppers |
Dec-25-10 09:59 PM |
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problem is, Nobel is not selecting the winners of the Peace award anymore |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-26-10 01:15 PM |
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Friedman died in 2006. |
boppers |
Dec-27-10 12:57 AM |
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How many times will you use the lie about "state control of TV," etc.? |
JackRiddler |
Dec-25-10 11:35 AM |
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Until "Alo presidente" is not required programming. |
boppers |
Dec-25-10 09:46 PM |
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Alo Presidente is NOT required programming on private channels. |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-26-10 02:41 AM |
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The use of the takeover of all national TV channels for Presidential acts |
social_critic |
Dec-26-10 07:50 AM |
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(social_critic) You're probably trying to say something. Try syntax. |
JackRiddler |
Dec-26-10 02:38 PM |
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As I said, it has ALWAYS been the pattern here in the U.S. for standard broadcast channels |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-26-10 02:52 PM |
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Not required on WB. UPN. |
boppers |
Dec-27-10 01:32 AM |
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"Nationally focused Presidential speeches are expected to be carried" |
boppers |
Dec-27-10 01:01 AM |
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Carrying Presidential speeches on national tv stations, on STANDARD stations, |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-27-10 04:20 AM |
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Did FDR revoke licenses of stations that didn't carry his chats? |
boppers |
Dec-28-10 12:10 AM |
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Dec-26-10 02:37 PM |
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Such as the lie that state run media is a solution to dissent? |
boppers |
Dec-27-10 01:05 AM |
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Interesting article on the history of Venezuela's student movement, |
bitchkitty |
Dec-24-10 06:58 AM |
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What an utter nonsense from venezuelanalysis |
ChangoLoa |
Dec-24-10 07:23 AM |
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Absolutely right. |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-24-10 10:13 AM |
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Wait a minute. |
bitchkitty |
Dec-24-10 11:00 PM |
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No - what I have repeatedly said is that these boards are filled |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-26-10 09:34 AM |
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I didn't mean it that way. |
bitchkitty |
Dec-26-10 10:46 AM |
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I seriously doubt you have any interest in exploring any point |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-26-10 02:22 PM |
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Not if it comes from you and yours. |
bitchkitty |
Dec-28-10 08:22 AM |
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More than 70% of university students come from the wealthiest quintile of the population |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-24-10 10:47 AM |
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Says who? |
ChangoLoa |
Dec-24-10 11:34 AM |
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the 1999 constitution |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-24-10 11:50 AM |
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You're diffusing misinformation on purpose. |
ChangoLoa |
Dec-27-10 07:56 AM |
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Make it easy for others, show the facts and your sources n/t |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-27-10 10:47 AM |
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Ultra right wing seems excessive |
social_critic |
Dec-24-10 08:49 AM |
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Going to reread your article. Great to see it. It's hard to impugn articles which contain THE FACTS. |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-26-10 02:49 PM |
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Anywhere else |
SpartanDem |
Dec-24-10 11:19 AM |
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This is because those whom claim outrage at such things... |
Imajika |
Dec-24-10 11:58 AM |
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students are also motivated by awards given in the US if they protest against Chavez |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-24-10 12:23 PM |
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University Education isn't all free, and it's not compulsory |
social_critic |
Dec-24-10 01:17 PM |
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There are private schools of course |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-24-10 02:52 PM |
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My analysis of what's happening in Venezuela's universities |
social_critic |
Dec-26-10 07:28 AM |
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Brilliant analysis! Thanks for posting. |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-26-10 09:36 AM |
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I don't think thats the case |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-26-10 01:28 PM |
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Your point fails to respond to my analysis |
social_critic |
Dec-28-10 07:59 AM |
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Your analysis fail to address the causes for the government to take control of the universities |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-28-10 12:28 PM |
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Sorry, but you are posting propaganda, and you miss the point |
social_critic |
Dec-29-10 08:50 AM |
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There is still outrage here, except from the hypocrites. |
FLPanhandle |
Dec-24-10 03:56 PM |
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I just don't understand this |
MrBig |
Dec-24-10 01:42 PM |
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Welcome to DU! Here, Chavez, Castro, and a few other dictators are held |
msanthrope |
Dec-24-10 02:04 PM |
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The Chavez cheerleaders... |
Imajika |
Dec-24-10 02:08 PM |
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Well said and to the point |
Mudoria |
Dec-24-10 02:35 PM |
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+1 |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-26-10 09:37 AM |
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The simple answer to your last two questions are that they should not, and they cannot |
Posteritatis |
Dec-24-10 04:24 PM |
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Yes, it is can be depressing... |
Imajika |
Dec-24-10 05:01 PM |
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The cheerleaders of the visionless Venezuelan opoosition parties... |
Prometheus Bound |
Dec-26-10 07:50 PM |
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Visionless Venezuelan opposition parties? |
social_critic |
Dec-27-10 07:25 AM |
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funny how these incidents are portrayed |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-24-10 03:00 PM |
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What does that have to do with anything? |
MrBig |
Dec-24-10 03:20 PM |
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Dec-24-10 04:14 PM |
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Have you red those comments like Dictator Chavez is trying to repress students? |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-26-10 01:35 PM |
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Our own protesters would be able to put up a better fight if the US didn't go ballistic against them |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-24-10 04:41 PM |
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I see your trying to change the subject again... |
Imajika |
Dec-24-10 05:26 PM |
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second that and on edit I'll add to that |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-24-10 05:39 PM |
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If this was a protest in DC that image would be in 20 different DU threads, some started with it. |
joshcryer |
Dec-25-10 06:23 AM |
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In what progressive moral grounds Bush was allowed to do it and Chavez don't? n/t |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-26-10 01:44 PM |
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Venezuela’s Resurgent Revolutionary Student Movement |
ronnie624 |
Dec-25-10 12:58 AM |
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yeah |
naaman fletcher |
Dec-25-10 01:40 AM |
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It is a source of information, as is the AP. |
ronnie624 |
Dec-25-10 01:57 AM |
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Venezuela Analysis is a well known source of Chavez support.. |
Mudoria |
Dec-25-10 07:19 AM |
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Pointless. n/t |
ronnie624 |
Dec-25-10 09:13 AM |
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it's hardly "pointless" |
paulk |
Dec-25-10 01:19 PM |
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You got it. |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-26-10 09:38 AM |
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Well sure |
naaman fletcher |
Dec-25-10 04:55 PM |
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Another copy/paste from Huge Ego's own Fox News |
Cutatious |
Dec-25-10 12:23 PM |
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Do you have the story which explains that photo? Would you do the honor of POSTING THE INFO? |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-26-10 03:08 PM |
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No se encontró ninguna página Web estándar con todos los términos de su búsqueda. |
Cutatious |
Dec-26-10 03:20 PM |
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here you go. and more pics showing the Ven government repression |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-26-10 11:10 PM |
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Looks like the Gestapo beating a protestor |
Mudoria |
Dec-26-10 11:40 PM |
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It looks more like Abu Ghraib or MacArthur Park may day 2007 n/t |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-27-10 11:15 AM |
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oooh! Slingshots! |
boppers |
Dec-27-10 01:14 AM |
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cobarde n/t |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-27-10 10:22 AM |
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This AP report says thousands of protesters, while the BBC and Reuters say hundreds. |
Prometheus Bound |
Dec-27-10 05:53 AM |
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Prometheus: An insider's view |
social_critic |
Dec-27-10 07:13 AM |
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Hey, thanks for the perspective. |
boppers |
Dec-28-10 12:19 AM |
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Dec-28-10 12:19 AM |
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