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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:24 AM
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31. It appears it gives illegal employers the ability to retain illegal employees by paying a tax
penalty. Does it give any legal status to the employees or do they stay "illegal" so that they have no rights? Sounds like a right wing wet dream.
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  -King Outlines Immigration Plans for 2011 AlphaCentauri  Dec-13-10 10:47 PM   #0 
  - Not necessarily a bad thing.  truthisfreedom   Dec-13-10 10:52 PM   #1 
  - He is going to try a National ID n/t  AlphaCentauri   Dec-13-10 11:02 PM   #4 
  - I don't have a problem with national ID  Hello_Kitty   Dec-13-10 11:11 PM   #5 
  - A flat tax system would eliminate redundant bureaucracies in the states  AlphaCentauri   Dec-14-10 12:06 AM   #10 
     - So do you oppose military IDs and passports? Those are national. eom  Hello_Kitty   Dec-14-10 12:13 AM   #11 
        - Do we need a passport to move around in the city? n/t  AlphaCentauri   Dec-14-10 12:20 AM   #12 
           - No, and you wouldn't need a national ID to do so either.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-14-10 12:23 AM   #13 
              - No, but who has to show a national ID to get a job?  AlphaCentauri   Dec-14-10 12:32 AM   #16 
              - Everyone  Hello_Kitty   Dec-14-10 12:41 AM   #17 
                 - I'm worry about Arizona style racial profiling n/t  AlphaCentauri   Dec-14-10 09:59 PM   #36 
              - We have one of those; it's called a "social security number".  Spider Jerusalem   Dec-14-10 02:40 AM   #27 
              - Exactly n/t  AlphaCentauri   Dec-14-10 09:58 PM   #35 
              - Voting as well.  SkyDaddy7   Dec-14-10 06:00 AM   #29 
  - We can get a coalition to oppose that  Ter   Dec-13-10 11:18 PM   #6 
  - What is wrong with it? You do realize we already have forms of national ID.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-13-10 11:21 PM   #7 
     - I don't trust the government  Ter   Dec-13-10 11:56 PM   #8 
     - What's so ominous about a national ID to work?  boppers   Dec-14-10 12:31 AM   #15 
        - Yet somehow passports, SS cards, and military ID haven't led to Nazism.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-14-10 12:43 AM   #18 
           - Which of those three are required to work as an independent contractor?  boppers   Dec-14-10 01:25 AM   #21 
              - So you're arguing against ID because you want cheap child care and landscaping.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-14-10 01:35 AM   #23 
                 - Way to gloss over ongoing massive state abuse.  boppers   Dec-14-10 01:42 AM   #24 
                    - Way to gloss over exploitation.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-14-10 02:23 AM   #25 
                       - We're in a Nazi state, arguing about levels of Nazi-ism.  boppers   Dec-14-10 02:36 AM   #26 
  - No problem with national ID.  emilyg   Dec-14-10 12:48 AM   #19 
     - Why not tie it to the passport for U.S. citizens?  Hello_Kitty   Dec-14-10 01:06 AM   #20 
  - Really?  bitchkitty   Dec-14-10 06:02 AM   #30 
  - It appears it gives illegal employers the ability to retain illegal employees by paying a tax  pampango   Dec-14-10 06:24 AM   #31 
  - Fuck you, King you bigot.  Zoeisright   Dec-13-10 10:52 PM   #2 
  - Be that as it may, since it is illegal to employ illegal immigrants, I don't see how this is bad.  truthisfreedom   Dec-13-10 10:58 PM   #3 
     - Yeah, Steve King is a giant dick but I'm not opposed to what he's proposing here.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-14-10 12:01 AM   #9 
  - sounds like a lot of 'rules' for a 'free markety' GOP'er... where's DE-regulation???  tomm2thumbs   Dec-14-10 12:25 AM   #14 
  - Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid  chuck97   Dec-14-10 01:34 AM   #22 
  - That is a long post but worth reading  AlphaCentauri   Dec-14-10 10:15 PM   #37 
  - Great post. Indeed King hopes to split the "Democratic coalition" by pretending to be "tough on  pampango   Dec-15-10 05:44 AM   #38 
  - So King would let illegal employees keep working, just eliminate illegal employers' tax deductions.  pampango   Dec-14-10 04:35 AM   #28 
     - Why is "going after employers" a wedge issue?  Hello_Kitty   Dec-14-10 10:06 AM   #32 
        - Because the repugs aren't really going after employers  Wednesdays   Dec-14-10 10:28 AM   #33 
           - Oh I know that. I live in AZ.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-14-10 10:39 AM   #34 

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