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78. I'm not talking about Swedish law. I'm talking about what you said. eom
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  -WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas ... and I've seen the proof says Julian Assange's lawyer Lars77  Dec-12-10 03:48 PM   #0 
  - Recommend  xchrom   Dec-12-10 03:51 PM   #1 
  - I think the charges were just so they could get him into custody  DJ13   Dec-12-10 03:58 PM   #2 
  - I fear you're right; that's what it seems to be  14thColony   Dec-12-10 04:22 PM   #3 
  - He'd never get to USAmerica...  ProudDad   Dec-12-10 07:51 PM   #36 
     - I think he's too famous at this point to make him disappear  Capitalocracy   Dec-13-10 12:09 AM   #68 
     - I think that the backlash for the sort of actions you suggest, ProudDad  JDPriestly   Dec-13-10 09:31 AM   #107 
  - I think you are right about that.  zeemike   Dec-12-10 04:26 PM   #5 
  - That is my thought as well  MissDeeds   Dec-12-10 06:36 PM   #25 
  - Also, I think the charges were calculated to divide the left against him.  caseymoz   Dec-12-10 10:38 PM   #59 
  - Seems they've been pretty successful. nt  Capitalocracy   Dec-13-10 12:09 AM   #69 
  - I don't know.  caseymoz   Dec-13-10 07:32 PM   #140 
  - .How very RW to use sex crimes (if that's what happened).  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 05:07 AM   #84 
  - I'm sure that's what the calculation was.  caseymoz   Dec-13-10 07:30 PM   #139 
  - Really? Which Left Is That?  NashVegas   Dec-13-10 02:38 PM   #125 
     - I'm lost.  caseymoz   Dec-13-10 07:29 PM   #138 
  - And your evidence is....?????? OTOH, there is evidence of rape...  Honeycombe8   Dec-13-10 07:40 AM   #102 
  - What, specifically, is the charge against him?  Wednesdays   Dec-13-10 08:44 AM   #105 
  - What is your source for the statement that "all Assange had to do to  JDPriestly   Dec-13-10 09:36 AM   #109 
  - Not only that but the STD could come from someone else....taking a test for  tpsbmam   Dec-13-10 11:28 AM   #116 
  - There is no conclusive evidence  davidthegnome   Dec-13-10 01:30 PM   #121 
  - well sure  northzax   Dec-13-10 03:45 PM   #129 
  - Where are the "women's advocates" at DU ???  backtomn   Dec-13-10 01:33 PM   #122 
  - Because most of the women on this site have common sense  ooglymoogly   Dec-13-10 03:37 PM   #128 
     - so now rapists fit a profile  northzax   Dec-13-10 03:49 PM   #130 
        - My god are you corny. nt  ooglymoogly   Dec-13-10 03:54 PM   #131 
           - you're the one profiling accused rapists  northzax   Dec-13-10 03:58 PM   #134 
  - Do we really have to suffer this batshit propaganda on this site of all places. nt  ooglymoogly   Dec-13-10 03:31 PM   #127 
  - exactly.  robinlynne   Dec-13-10 11:10 AM   #114 
  - Cheney will come out of hiding for Torture Time now. nt  valerief   Dec-12-10 04:25 PM   #4 
  - Cheney will have to remain in this country in his undisclosed location.  sabrina 1   Dec-13-10 02:00 AM   #83 
  - Did the women have a hidden agenda or did the government lock on to them once they came forward. May  pam4water   Dec-12-10 04:44 PM   #6 
  - One has absconded to Palestine, the other is in hiding  crikkett   Dec-13-10 06:09 AM   #95 
  - Blatantly appears he was framed to get him into custody. He will receive NO fair trail here.  glinda   Dec-12-10 04:46 PM   #7 
  - They're still talking "he said--she(s) said.  Rozlee   Dec-12-10 04:58 PM   #8 
  - Swedish sexual assault laws seem to be the most peculiar in the world,  Matilda   Dec-12-10 05:09 PM   #10 
     - are you fucking serious?  TorchTheWitch   Dec-12-10 05:56 PM   #17 
     - Actually, I think she's saying that by the woman changing her mind in  Rozlee   Dec-12-10 06:10 PM   #19 
     - My GF is an anti-date rape advocate.  Ruperto31   Dec-12-10 06:11 PM   #20 
     - then she's not much of an advocate  northzax   Dec-13-10 03:56 PM   #133 
     - Yes, I do.  Matilda   Dec-12-10 06:25 PM   #23 
     - Maybe I've misunderstood your comments.  Rozlee   Dec-12-10 06:56 PM   #28 
     - I stopped reading at "irregardless" n/t  harmonicon   Dec-12-10 07:10 PM   #30 
     - It may be unfair, but so did I, actually  psychopomp   Dec-13-10 01:47 AM   #81 
     - You feel compelled to post that, even if it humiliates a fellow DUer who wasn't being mean to you?  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 07:07 AM   #100 
     - Please see Reply 100.  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 07:10 AM   #101 
     - Oh my...I stopped reading at "irregardless" too, LOL.  Jazzgirl   Dec-13-10 08:31 AM   #103 
     - I have a teabagger sister and her teabonics are getting to me. n/t  Rozlee   Dec-13-10 01:13 PM   #120 
     - I agree, there can be many reasons why a woman might change her mind.  Matilda   Dec-12-10 08:07 PM   #38 
     - The woman who says no under the circumstances you describe  JDPriestly   Dec-13-10 09:47 AM   #111 
     - Giving consent doesn't mean you consent to whatever the other person wants wants to do.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-12-10 10:30 PM   #57 
     - Under Swedish law, it's not necessary for anything else to happen  Matilda   Dec-13-10 01:10 AM   #77 
        - I'm not talking about Swedish law. I'm talking about what you said. eom  Hello_Kitty   Dec-13-10 01:14 AM   #78 
        - Link re: specific Swedish statute, please?  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 05:43 AM   #93 
     - You're wrong.  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 07:03 AM   #99 
     - I think that whether sex was rape might depend on what happened  JDPriestly   Dec-13-10 09:44 AM   #110 
     - The Swedish laws on rape sound as confusing as American ones decades  Rozlee   Dec-13-10 01:58 PM   #123 
     - really? you've never had sex go wrong?  northzax   Dec-13-10 03:54 PM   #132 
        - But - wouldn't charge the man with rape.  Matilda   Dec-13-10 05:53 PM   #135 
           - so you say 'no' and 'stop'  northzax   Dec-13-10 06:12 PM   #136 
              - I consider that consent given makes the woman at least partly culpable.  Matilda   Dec-13-10 08:55 PM   #143 
     - +1,000,000  DesertDiamond   Dec-12-10 09:59 PM   #47 
     - Agreed.  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-12-10 11:51 PM   #66 
     - There is a pretty big difference between Assange and Polanski  DWilliamsamh   Dec-13-10 12:43 AM   #74 
        - You sure put a lot of words into my mouth  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-13-10 02:05 PM   #124 
           - I don't think you can search my past posts for teh Polanski issue but -  DWilliamsamh   Dec-13-10 07:05 PM   #137 
              - Fair enough, it seems like we are more or less on the same page  WildEyedLiberal   Dec-13-10 07:43 PM   #142 
                 - I do think we mostly agree on a theoretical level  DWilliamsamh   Dec-14-10 09:17 AM   #144 
     - Wow, you just jumped to a conclusion I don't think the poster was  Tunkamerica   Dec-13-10 12:02 AM   #67 
     - Some point? Like a week later? If so, you're right. Otherwise, "stop" means stop.  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 05:22 AM   #87 
        - I don't think that was the poster's point. If you do then, agree to disagree.  Tunkamerica   Dec-13-10 05:27 AM   #88 
           - Speaking of rushing to judgment, post said nothing about what the other poster meant or about  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 05:38 AM   #92 
              - But you're replying to that post.  Tunkamerica   Dec-13-10 05:43 AM   #94 
                 - Sorry, I an not following the phrasing in your post just before "Am I wrong?"  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 06:33 AM   #96 
     - It's rape if she says "stop" and he doesn't.  Le Taz Hot   Dec-13-10 01:58 AM   #82 
     - You can't withdraw consent no matter what happens?  Hello_Kitty   Dec-12-10 10:24 PM   #56 
     - Please read some of the other responses.  Tunkamerica   Dec-13-10 05:28 AM   #90 
     - Men "scorned" never do anything to anyone. So, using a sexist saying works well.  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 05:15 AM   #85 
        - Using quotes around "familiar phrasing" makes "points"  Tunkamerica   Dec-13-10 05:30 AM   #91 
           - Ah, yes, using quotation marks around a very familiar quotation is very meaningful.  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 06:40 AM   #97 
  - Well then, why not publish those "secret police documents" on Wikileaks???  Rage for Order   Dec-12-10 05:07 PM   #9 
  - What makes you think that?  EFerrari   Dec-12-10 05:33 PM   #13 
  - You're probably right  Rage for Order   Dec-12-10 05:37 PM   #14 
     - You might want to go read up.  EFerrari   Dec-12-10 05:42 PM   #15 
     - I didn't say the documents should be off limits  Rage for Order   Dec-12-10 05:46 PM   #16 
        - It would be inappropriate, and detrimental to his case.  boppers   Dec-12-10 05:59 PM   #18 
           - Exculpatory evidence for Mr. Assange would be "inappropriate"?  forty6   Dec-12-10 08:22 PM   #41 
              - People have a right to privacy.  boppers   Dec-13-10 12:26 AM   #71 
     - They did screen them--and redacted info that could get people hurt. nt  tblue37   Dec-12-10 06:13 PM   #21 
     - boring posts  Teaser   Dec-12-10 06:13 PM   #22 
     - This Really Pisses you Off  fascisthunter   Dec-12-10 07:37 PM   #34 
  - Probably because they are material to his defense  Alcibiades   Dec-12-10 10:36 PM   #58 
  - "But Mr Hurtig remains confident that Mr Assange will get a fair hearing in Sweden ..."  iandhr   Dec-12-10 05:11 PM   #11 
  - He will never get to trial in Sweden...  ProudDad   Dec-12-10 07:56 PM   #37 
     - Sweden  iandhr   Dec-12-10 08:19 PM   #40 
     - The case looks too weak to go to trial.  EFerrari   Dec-12-10 10:08 PM   #49 
     - not at all, it is legal if the death penalty is not on the table  Pavulon   Dec-12-10 10:12 PM   #52 
     - I wouldn't be surprised if Sweden doesn't prosecute Assange  Vattel   Dec-12-10 10:13 PM   #53 
     - This.  TexasObserver   Dec-13-10 05:27 AM   #89 
  - It smacked of a stitch up from the outset  dipsydoodle   Dec-12-10 05:25 PM   #12 
  - Ditto.  SoapBox   Dec-13-10 12:29 AM   #72 
  - Sure Mr. Hurtig. You're right. All rape victims are liars. nt  newtothegame   Dec-12-10 06:34 PM   #24 
  - Where did THAT come from???  LadyHawkAZ   Dec-12-10 06:43 PM   #26 
  - I find the selective vetting of rape victims interesting, thats all. nt  newtothegame   Dec-12-10 07:08 PM   #29 
     - Did you even read the article? Do you know what the accusation really is?  WillYourVoteBCounted   Dec-12-10 07:29 PM   #32 
     - Not sure what your point is. What you quoted, IF TRUE, describes two rapes.  No Elephants   Dec-13-10 06:52 AM   #98 
     - There are NO rape accusations, that is a creation of the MSM.  Odin2005   Dec-12-10 07:32 PM   #33 
     - They aren't rape victims.  LadyHawkAZ   Dec-12-10 10:23 PM   #54 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-12-10 09:00 PM   #45 
  - What a shocker! Someone's attorney says the other side is lying  WolverineDG   Dec-12-10 06:54 PM   #27 
  - And that's he's got 'secret evidence' to prove it!!! Quelle Suprise!!  msanthrope   Dec-12-10 07:50 PM   #35 
     - I thought Wikileaks was all about making "secret evidence" not so secret!...  forty6   Dec-12-10 08:24 PM   #42 
     - Assange is exempt from the transparency he demands from everyone else  WolverineDG   Dec-12-10 09:47 PM   #46 
     - No ... Assange's lawyer is working for transparency the article...  defendandprotect   Dec-12-10 10:58 PM   #64 
     - He hasn't demanded transparency from me...?  LanternWaste   Dec-13-10 03:15 PM   #126 
     - Did you read the article? He could be disbarred for releasing  EFerrari   Dec-12-10 10:10 PM   #50 
     - +1  Alcibiades   Dec-12-10 10:39 PM   #60 
        - If Assange were abusive with women and 39 and active  EFerrari   Dec-12-10 11:40 PM   #65 
           - And it came at a very convenient time  Alcibiades   Dec-13-10 09:32 AM   #108 
              - The first woman, Ardin, seems to have a lot of turmoil in her life  EFerrari   Dec-13-10 11:29 AM   #117 
     - It is...that's why his lawyer wants to release it ...but would be disbarred for doing so....  defendandprotect   Dec-12-10 10:57 PM   #63 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-13-10 01:07 AM   #76 
     - Nonsense.... Assange's lawyer is trying to get permission to relate the evidence...  defendandprotect   Dec-12-10 10:56 PM   #62 
  - K & R nt  laughingliberal   Dec-12-10 07:21 PM   #31 
  - They're not the only ones. Many here on DU appear to have agendas of their own...  ProudDad   Dec-12-10 08:07 PM   #39 
  - My only agenda is to get as close to the truth as possible, be it about ..  forty6   Dec-12-10 08:27 PM   #43 
  - I've been trying to figure that one out, too  MrMickeysMom   Dec-12-10 10:23 PM   #55 
  - Many of them were pro TSA porn scanners  Boudica the Lyoness   Dec-13-10 12:21 AM   #70 
  - The "charges" are based on the complaints  azureblue   Dec-12-10 08:56 PM   #44 
  - Ardin was "working with the CIA as an agent/activist"? Sure she was  Vattel   Dec-12-10 10:04 PM   #48 
     - She was deported from Cuba for associating with a State Department front group.  EFerrari   Dec-12-10 10:12 PM   #51 
        - +1 She sure did. n/t  Shining Jack   Dec-13-10 01:15 AM   #79 
        - lol, sounds less sinister now  Vattel   Dec-13-10 10:16 AM   #113 
           - She's probably not, she doesn't seem smart enough.  EFerrari   Dec-13-10 11:19 AM   #115 
  - Encouraging ... but I'd really like to know how many cases like this have actually  defendandprotect   Dec-12-10 10:54 PM   #61 
  - Accused but not even charged at the time the red notice went out.  EFerrari   Dec-13-10 12:35 AM   #73 
  - How can you be raped by a website?  HEyHEY   Dec-13-10 12:47 AM   #75 
  - I rest my case. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-13-10 08:50 AM   #106 
  - K&R n/t  Shining Jack   Dec-13-10 01:16 AM   #80 
  - Not surprised at all. One appears to be an agent for intel.  TexasObserver   Dec-13-10 05:18 AM   #86 
  - K&R  pleah   Dec-13-10 08:44 AM   #104 
  - I'd say both sides are highly motivated to discredit the other  Love Bug   Dec-13-10 10:05 AM   #112 
  - charges to just get him in custody--no shit?!  katty   Dec-13-10 11:57 AM   #118 
  - I don't believe he's been charged yet.  EFerrari   Dec-13-10 12:06 PM   #119 
  - So leak the documents already! Why the delay exposing the  24601   Dec-13-10 07:42 PM   #141 

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