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Sun Dec-12-10 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 13. What makes you think that? |
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Oh, let me guess. The American media.
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| -WikiLeaks 'rape' victims had hidden agendas ... and I've seen the proof says Julian Assange's lawyer |
Lars77 |
Dec-12-10 03:48 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Dec-12-10 03:51 PM |
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I think the charges were just so they could get him into custody |
DJ13 |
Dec-12-10 03:58 PM |
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I fear you're right; that's what it seems to be |
14thColony |
Dec-12-10 04:22 PM |
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He'd never get to USAmerica... |
ProudDad |
Dec-12-10 07:51 PM |
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I think he's too famous at this point to make him disappear |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-13-10 12:09 AM |
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I think that the backlash for the sort of actions you suggest, ProudDad |
JDPriestly |
Dec-13-10 09:31 AM |
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I think you are right about that. |
zeemike |
Dec-12-10 04:26 PM |
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That is my thought as well |
MissDeeds |
Dec-12-10 06:36 PM |
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Also, I think the charges were calculated to divide the left against him. |
caseymoz |
Dec-12-10 10:38 PM |
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Seems they've been pretty successful. nt |
Capitalocracy |
Dec-13-10 12:09 AM |
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I don't know. |
caseymoz |
Dec-13-10 07:32 PM |
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.How very RW to use sex crimes (if that's what happened). |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 05:07 AM |
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I'm sure that's what the calculation was. |
caseymoz |
Dec-13-10 07:30 PM |
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Really? Which Left Is That? |
NashVegas |
Dec-13-10 02:38 PM |
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I'm lost. |
caseymoz |
Dec-13-10 07:29 PM |
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And your evidence is....?????? OTOH, there is evidence of rape... |
Honeycombe8 |
Dec-13-10 07:40 AM |
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What, specifically, is the charge against him? |
Wednesdays |
Dec-13-10 08:44 AM |
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What is your source for the statement that "all Assange had to do to |
JDPriestly |
Dec-13-10 09:36 AM |
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Not only that but the STD could come from someone else....taking a test for |
tpsbmam |
Dec-13-10 11:28 AM |
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There is no conclusive evidence |
davidthegnome |
Dec-13-10 01:30 PM |
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well sure |
northzax |
Dec-13-10 03:45 PM |
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Where are the "women's advocates" at DU ??? |
backtomn |
Dec-13-10 01:33 PM |
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Because most of the women on this site have common sense |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-13-10 03:37 PM |
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so now rapists fit a profile |
northzax |
Dec-13-10 03:49 PM |
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My god are you corny. nt |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-13-10 03:54 PM |
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you're the one profiling accused rapists |
northzax |
Dec-13-10 03:58 PM |
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Do we really have to suffer this batshit propaganda on this site of all places. nt |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-13-10 03:31 PM |
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exactly. |
robinlynne |
Dec-13-10 11:10 AM |
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Cheney will come out of hiding for Torture Time now. nt |
valerief |
Dec-12-10 04:25 PM |
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Cheney will have to remain in this country in his undisclosed location. |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-13-10 02:00 AM |
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Did the women have a hidden agenda or did the government lock on to them once they came forward. May |
pam4water |
Dec-12-10 04:44 PM |
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One has absconded to Palestine, the other is in hiding |
crikkett |
Dec-13-10 06:09 AM |
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Blatantly appears he was framed to get him into custody. He will receive NO fair trail here. |
glinda |
Dec-12-10 04:46 PM |
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They're still talking "he said--she(s) said. |
Rozlee |
Dec-12-10 04:58 PM |
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Swedish sexual assault laws seem to be the most peculiar in the world, |
Matilda |
Dec-12-10 05:09 PM |
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are you fucking serious? |
TorchTheWitch |
Dec-12-10 05:56 PM |
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Actually, I think she's saying that by the woman changing her mind in |
Rozlee |
Dec-12-10 06:10 PM |
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My GF is an anti-date rape advocate. |
Ruperto31 |
Dec-12-10 06:11 PM |
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then she's not much of an advocate |
northzax |
Dec-13-10 03:56 PM |
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Yes, I do. |
Matilda |
Dec-12-10 06:25 PM |
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Maybe I've misunderstood your comments. |
Rozlee |
Dec-12-10 06:56 PM |
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I stopped reading at "irregardless" n/t |
harmonicon |
Dec-12-10 07:10 PM |
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It may be unfair, but so did I, actually |
psychopomp |
Dec-13-10 01:47 AM |
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You feel compelled to post that, even if it humiliates a fellow DUer who wasn't being mean to you? |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 07:07 AM |
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Please see Reply 100. |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 07:10 AM |
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Oh my...I stopped reading at "irregardless" too, LOL. |
Jazzgirl |
Dec-13-10 08:31 AM |
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I have a teabagger sister and her teabonics are getting to me. n/t |
Rozlee |
Dec-13-10 01:13 PM |
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I agree, there can be many reasons why a woman might change her mind. |
Matilda |
Dec-12-10 08:07 PM |
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The woman who says no under the circumstances you describe |
JDPriestly |
Dec-13-10 09:47 AM |
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Giving consent doesn't mean you consent to whatever the other person wants wants to do. |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-12-10 10:30 PM |
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Under Swedish law, it's not necessary for anything else to happen |
Matilda |
Dec-13-10 01:10 AM |
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I'm not talking about Swedish law. I'm talking about what you said. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-13-10 01:14 AM |
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Link re: specific Swedish statute, please? |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 05:43 AM |
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You're wrong. |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 07:03 AM |
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I think that whether sex was rape might depend on what happened |
JDPriestly |
Dec-13-10 09:44 AM |
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The Swedish laws on rape sound as confusing as American ones decades |
Rozlee |
Dec-13-10 01:58 PM |
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really? you've never had sex go wrong? |
northzax |
Dec-13-10 03:54 PM |
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But - wouldn't charge the man with rape. |
Matilda |
Dec-13-10 05:53 PM |
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so you say 'no' and 'stop' |
northzax |
Dec-13-10 06:12 PM |
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I consider that consent given makes the woman at least partly culpable. |
Matilda |
Dec-13-10 08:55 PM |
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+1,000,000 |
DesertDiamond |
Dec-12-10 09:59 PM |
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Agreed. |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-12-10 11:51 PM |
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There is a pretty big difference between Assange and Polanski |
DWilliamsamh |
Dec-13-10 12:43 AM |
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You sure put a lot of words into my mouth |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-13-10 02:05 PM |
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I don't think you can search my past posts for teh Polanski issue but - |
DWilliamsamh |
Dec-13-10 07:05 PM |
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Fair enough, it seems like we are more or less on the same page |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-13-10 07:43 PM |
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I do think we mostly agree on a theoretical level |
DWilliamsamh |
Dec-14-10 09:17 AM |
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Wow, you just jumped to a conclusion I don't think the poster was |
Tunkamerica |
Dec-13-10 12:02 AM |
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Some point? Like a week later? If so, you're right. Otherwise, "stop" means stop. |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 05:22 AM |
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I don't think that was the poster's point. If you do then, agree to disagree. |
Tunkamerica |
Dec-13-10 05:27 AM |
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Speaking of rushing to judgment,....my post said nothing about what the other poster meant or about |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 05:38 AM |
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But you're replying to that post. |
Tunkamerica |
Dec-13-10 05:43 AM |
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Sorry, I an not following the phrasing in your post just before "Am I wrong?" |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 06:33 AM |
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It's rape if she says "stop" and he doesn't. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-13-10 01:58 AM |
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You can't withdraw consent no matter what happens? |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-12-10 10:24 PM |
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Please read some of the other responses. |
Tunkamerica |
Dec-13-10 05:28 AM |
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Men "scorned" never do anything to anyone. So, using a sexist saying works well. |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 05:15 AM |
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Using quotes around "familiar phrasing" makes "points" |
Tunkamerica |
Dec-13-10 05:30 AM |
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Ah, yes, using quotation marks around a very familiar quotation is very meaningful. |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 06:40 AM |
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Well then, why not publish those "secret police documents" on Wikileaks??? |
Rage for Order |
Dec-12-10 05:07 PM |
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What makes you think that? |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 05:33 PM |
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You're probably right |
Rage for Order |
Dec-12-10 05:37 PM |
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You might want to go read up. |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 05:42 PM |
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I didn't say the documents should be off limits |
Rage for Order |
Dec-12-10 05:46 PM |
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It would be inappropriate, and detrimental to his case. |
boppers |
Dec-12-10 05:59 PM |
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Exculpatory evidence for Mr. Assange would be "inappropriate"? |
forty6 |
Dec-12-10 08:22 PM |
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People have a right to privacy. |
boppers |
Dec-13-10 12:26 AM |
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They did screen them--and redacted info that could get people hurt. nt |
tblue37 |
Dec-12-10 06:13 PM |
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boring posts |
Teaser |
Dec-12-10 06:13 PM |
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This Really Pisses you Off |
fascisthunter |
Dec-12-10 07:37 PM |
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Probably because they are material to his defense |
Alcibiades |
Dec-12-10 10:36 PM |
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"But Mr Hurtig remains confident that Mr Assange will get a fair hearing in Sweden ..." |
iandhr |
Dec-12-10 05:11 PM |
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He will never get to trial in Sweden... |
ProudDad |
Dec-12-10 07:56 PM |
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Sweden |
iandhr |
Dec-12-10 08:19 PM |
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The case looks too weak to go to trial. |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 10:08 PM |
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not at all, it is legal if the death penalty is not on the table |
Pavulon |
Dec-12-10 10:12 PM |
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I wouldn't be surprised if Sweden doesn't prosecute Assange |
Vattel |
Dec-12-10 10:13 PM |
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This. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-13-10 05:27 AM |
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It smacked of a stitch up from the outset |
dipsydoodle |
Dec-12-10 05:25 PM |
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Ditto. |
SoapBox |
Dec-13-10 12:29 AM |
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Sure Mr. Hurtig. You're right. All rape victims are liars. nt |
newtothegame |
Dec-12-10 06:34 PM |
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Where did THAT come from??? |
LadyHawkAZ |
Dec-12-10 06:43 PM |
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I find the selective vetting of rape victims interesting, thats all. nt |
newtothegame |
Dec-12-10 07:08 PM |
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Did you even read the article? Do you know what the accusation really is? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Dec-12-10 07:29 PM |
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Not sure what your point is. What you quoted, IF TRUE, describes two rapes. |
No Elephants |
Dec-13-10 06:52 AM |
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There are NO rape accusations, that is a creation of the MSM. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-12-10 07:32 PM |
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They aren't rape victims. |
LadyHawkAZ |
Dec-12-10 10:23 PM |
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Dec-12-10 09:00 PM |
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What a shocker! Someone's attorney says the other side is lying |
WolverineDG |
Dec-12-10 06:54 PM |
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And that's he's got 'secret evidence' to prove it!!! Quelle Suprise!! |
msanthrope |
Dec-12-10 07:50 PM |
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I thought Wikileaks was all about making "secret evidence" not so secret!... |
forty6 |
Dec-12-10 08:24 PM |
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Assange is exempt from the transparency he demands from everyone else |
WolverineDG |
Dec-12-10 09:47 PM |
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No ... Assange's lawyer is working for transparency ....read the article... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-12-10 10:58 PM |
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He hasn't demanded transparency from me...? |
LanternWaste |
Dec-13-10 03:15 PM |
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Did you read the article? He could be disbarred for releasing |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 10:10 PM |
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+1 |
Alcibiades |
Dec-12-10 10:39 PM |
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If Assange were abusive with women and 39 and active |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:40 PM |
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And it came at a very convenient time |
Alcibiades |
Dec-13-10 09:32 AM |
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The first woman, Ardin, seems to have a lot of turmoil in her life |
EFerrari |
Dec-13-10 11:29 AM |
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It is...that's why his lawyer wants to release it ...but would be disbarred for doing so.... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-12-10 10:57 PM |
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Dec-13-10 01:07 AM |
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Nonsense.... Assange's lawyer is trying to get permission to relate the evidence... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-12-10 10:56 PM |
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K & R nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-12-10 07:21 PM |
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They're not the only ones. Many here on DU appear to have agendas of their own... |
ProudDad |
Dec-12-10 08:07 PM |
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My only agenda is to get as close to the truth as possible, be it about .. |
forty6 |
Dec-12-10 08:27 PM |
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I've been trying to figure that one out, too |
MrMickeysMom |
Dec-12-10 10:23 PM |
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Many of them were pro TSA porn scanners |
Boudica the Lyoness |
Dec-13-10 12:21 AM |
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The "charges" are based on the complaints |
azureblue |
Dec-12-10 08:56 PM |
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Ardin was "working with the CIA as an agent/activist"? Sure she was |
Vattel |
Dec-12-10 10:04 PM |
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She was deported from Cuba for associating with a State Department front group. |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 10:12 PM |
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+1 She sure did. n/t |
Shining Jack |
Dec-13-10 01:15 AM |
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lol, sounds less sinister now |
Vattel |
Dec-13-10 10:16 AM |
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She's probably not, she doesn't seem smart enough. |
EFerrari |
Dec-13-10 11:19 AM |
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Encouraging ... but I'd really like to know how many cases like this have actually |
defendandprotect |
Dec-12-10 10:54 PM |
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Accused but not even charged at the time the red notice went out. |
EFerrari |
Dec-13-10 12:35 AM |
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How can you be raped by a website? |
HEyHEY |
Dec-13-10 12:47 AM |
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Rotten.com. I rest my case. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-13-10 08:50 AM |
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K&R n/t |
Shining Jack |
Dec-13-10 01:16 AM |
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Not surprised at all. One appears to be an agent for intel. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-13-10 05:18 AM |
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K&R |
pleah |
Dec-13-10 08:44 AM |
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I'd say both sides are highly motivated to discredit the other |
Love Bug |
Dec-13-10 10:05 AM |
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charges to just get him in custody--no shit?! |
katty |
Dec-13-10 11:57 AM |
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I don't believe he's been charged yet. |
EFerrari |
Dec-13-10 12:06 PM |
#119 |
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So leak the documents already! Why the delay exposing the |
24601 |
Dec-13-10 07:42 PM |
#141 |
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