| 53. It's a Mission Impossible PR stunt |
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If the file contains the cables, it would have been easier just to release it unencrypted. Then everybody would have all the cables and there would be no use going after Assange -- the damage would already be done. Instead, Assange apparently wants to draw this whole thing out and attract as much media attention to himself as possible. The whole Mission Impossible-esque "encrypted file with dead man's keys being emailed out in the event of foul play" game is nothing more than attention-seeking hype.
On the other hand, the file might, as you suggest, contain something so secret and damaging that Assange is using it to actually blackmail the government and ensure his own safety. Of course, if that were true, it would make him the world's biggest hypocrite. The whole point of his (and WikiLeaks') espoused philosophy is that government secrets are bad, and the more the government wants to keep something secret, the more urgent it is that that secret be revealed to the public. By his own logic, something so secret and damaging that it can be used to blackmail the US government is something that he has no right to conceal from the public.
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| -'WikiLeaks WON'T be stopped': Founder reveals 100,000 encrypted versions of secret files have been |
Turborama |
Dec-03-10 11:24 AM |
#0 |
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Very smart man. n/t |
Autumn |
Dec-03-10 11:27 AM |
#1 |
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hope they are hidden in his pelican briefs!!! |
happygoluckytoyou |
Dec-03-10 01:22 PM |
#45 |
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I thought that might be the case |
dipsydoodle |
Dec-03-10 11:32 AM |
#2 |
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Even if he were to release info. on banking shenanigans? n/t |
RKP5637 |
Dec-03-10 11:34 AM |
#4 |
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Those will be the icing on the cake. |
dipsydoodle |
Dec-03-10 11:39 AM |
#8 |
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Yep, I surely would not mind seeing some of these arrogant greedy banksters |
RKP5637 |
Dec-03-10 11:43 AM |
#10 |
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banksters + congressmen ensuring tax cuts for the rich = wikileaks I'd love to soak up |
wordpix |
Dec-03-10 07:39 PM |
#139 |
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I had been thinking that the insurance file was the banking info. |
crikkett |
Dec-05-10 01:23 PM |
#204 |
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Not that |
donquijoterocket |
Dec-03-10 12:38 PM |
#29 |
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Damn. I didn't know about their RepublicOWNED tendencies. |
postulater |
Dec-03-10 01:35 PM |
#51 |
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donquijoterocket |
molly77 |
Dec-03-10 03:51 PM |
#98 |
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I think the reason they pulled the plug |
rbixby |
Dec-03-10 02:55 PM |
#87 |
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If Amazon had not have pulled the plug on Assange, Holder would have pulled |
Creative |
Dec-03-10 04:49 PM |
#116 |
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I am boycotting amazon |
Scruffy1 |
Dec-03-10 08:35 PM |
#149 |
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Aside from anything else, this is as interesting as any movie I've seen in years. |
No Elephants |
Dec-03-10 11:34 AM |
#3 |
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With the added bonus |
dipsydoodle |
Dec-03-10 11:37 AM |
#5 |
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True, but unfortunately... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 05:27 PM |
#125 |
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Let's hope not. |
glinda |
Dec-03-10 11:22 PM |
#165 |
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he will... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 11:45 PM |
#172 |
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I have an idea |
arikara |
Dec-04-10 12:23 AM |
#179 |
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me too... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-04-10 12:29 AM |
#180 |
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Thousands already have |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Dec-03-10 11:23 PM |
#166 |
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hundreds of thousands... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 11:46 PM |
#173 |
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Yeah, great show. |
bemildred |
Dec-03-10 12:01 PM |
#13 |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Uncle Joe |
Dec-03-10 11:38 AM |
#6 |
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color me not surprised... |
northernlights |
Dec-03-10 11:38 AM |
#7 |
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Frankly, I see him as a hero too ... there is a lot of shit going on sometimes and |
RKP5637 |
Dec-03-10 11:46 AM |
#11 |
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You say (and so rightly) |
truedelphi |
Dec-03-10 01:43 PM |
#59 |
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Why do we have to be so freaking arrogant? |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Dec-03-10 11:29 PM |
#168 |
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Yes he did! I also knew of this insurance and 'participated' months ago. n/t |
axollot |
Dec-03-10 12:49 PM |
#32 |
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Somehow I think Obama allowing "going after terrorists" in other Countries no matter who they are |
glinda |
Dec-03-10 04:57 PM |
#117 |
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I completely agree. My other home country Australia has |
axollot |
Dec-04-10 10:37 AM |
#188 |
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+1 |
get the red out |
Dec-03-10 01:48 PM |
#60 |
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Absolutely. |
vanlassie |
Dec-03-10 10:10 PM |
#160 |
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Well, there's no guarantee that he won't release them anyways eventually |
BenzoDia |
Dec-03-10 11:41 AM |
#9 |
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On the contrary, what he's saying is this material will be released |
EFerrari |
Dec-03-10 12:03 PM |
#14 |
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Ah I see. I figured he was gonna hold onto these for as long as he's free. |
BenzoDia |
Dec-03-10 12:24 PM |
#21 |
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No. It means if you try to kill him before a file dump the files are still |
axollot |
Dec-03-10 12:51 PM |
#33 |
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That's why they went after the torrent sites????? |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-03-10 05:19 PM |
#124 |
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...that does make perfect sense. |
bhikkhu |
Dec-03-10 08:19 PM |
#145 |
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I'm just connecting dots too but makes sense does it not? That's |
axollot |
Dec-04-10 10:44 AM |
#189 |
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Please excuse my ignorance |
kaffy4x4 |
Dec-04-10 04:43 AM |
#183 |
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Wiki is good source for that: |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-04-10 09:40 AM |
#187 |
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file sharing that uses a program called 'bit-torrent' (originally there are others) |
axollot |
Dec-04-10 10:47 AM |
#190 |
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Nice edit |
NoGOPZone |
Dec-03-10 12:27 PM |
#23 |
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eh? |
BenzoDia |
Dec-03-10 12:43 PM |
#30 |
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This is the first time I've truly felt hopeful in years. |
Gregorian |
Dec-03-10 11:51 AM |
#12 |
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Glad I'm not the only one. It is the first cracks in what seemed an unstoppable conglomeration |
harun |
Dec-03-10 12:54 PM |
#36 |
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Yes! Time for the curtain to fall! n/t |
axollot |
Dec-04-10 10:53 AM |
#192 |
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THE SHINING |
Moonbat2 |
Dec-03-10 04:21 PM |
#110 |
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Whistleblowers in general won't be stopped, too many people are fed up |
StarburstClock |
Dec-03-10 12:05 PM |
#15 |
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Exactly!!! Capitalism only works to benefit the majority "if" well regulated, if not, |
RKP5637 |
Dec-03-10 01:22 PM |
#44 |
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RKP5637 |
molly77 |
Dec-03-10 04:06 PM |
#104 |
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we all drift sometimes |
Moonbat2 |
Dec-03-10 04:25 PM |
#112 |
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Thanks for your reply!!! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Dec-03-10 05:16 PM |
#122 |
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Who are these 2 f'n women? |
elias49 |
Dec-03-10 12:13 PM |
#16 |
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You seriously don't know? |
Alcibiades |
Dec-03-10 12:52 PM |
#34 |
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The two women who are accusing Assange of rape |
molly77 |
Dec-03-10 04:15 PM |
#108 |
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Foreskin Assistant? |
Nihil |
Dec-03-10 04:24 PM |
#111 |
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That's exactly how I kept wanting to read that, too. |
Systematic Chaos |
Dec-04-10 03:37 AM |
#182 |
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he is smart, and of course he put something in place like this |
katty |
Dec-03-10 12:18 PM |
#17 |
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Just WOW ! n/t |
orbitalman |
Dec-03-10 12:19 PM |
#18 |
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Hopefully the insurance file has some "smoking gun" type stuff in it.... |
cbdo2007 |
Dec-03-10 12:21 PM |
#19 |
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just masturbation for his ego? |
smiley |
Dec-03-10 12:29 PM |
#24 |
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bingo. |
axollot |
Dec-03-10 12:55 PM |
#37 |
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They're scared of what he *might* have but what's actually been released so far.... |
cbdo2007 |
Dec-03-10 01:06 PM |
#40 |
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And the fact that more will be released even if he is killed, makes me think there is something |
felinetta |
Dec-03-10 02:48 PM |
#84 |
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"the worst things we're finding out is that Hillary Clinton called someone a bad name" |
laughingliberal |
Dec-03-10 01:10 PM |
#42 |
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laughingliberal |
molly77 |
Dec-03-10 04:12 PM |
#107 |
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I haven't seen the film yet, but I think that president was |
Goldstein1984 |
Dec-04-10 12:00 AM |
#177 |
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The "nothing important here" meme isn't holding |
Bragi |
Dec-03-10 08:08 PM |
#144 |
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You have not been paying attention to the state dept. cables |
ProudDad |
Dec-03-10 01:31 PM |
#50 |
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Where have you been? Seriously!!..In my view, the most despicable |
truth2power |
Dec-03-10 02:23 PM |
#75 |
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You mean like |
Frisbee |
Dec-03-10 03:12 PM |
#91 |
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As I see it, |
Yavapai |
Dec-03-10 06:37 PM |
#130 |
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You're not paying attention. |
byrok |
Dec-03-10 06:10 PM |
#129 |
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yeah |
shanti |
Dec-03-10 07:48 PM |
#141 |
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You are vastly understating what has already been linked. |
tekisui |
Dec-04-10 09:12 AM |
#185 |
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Going viral is the key. |
Crowman1979 |
Dec-03-10 12:21 PM |
#20 |
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As I said last night: |
Hissyspit |
Dec-03-10 12:26 PM |
#22 |
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We need to undo this "national security" state which has created national insecurity .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-10 12:35 PM |
#26 |
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"Threats to their lives" .... no doubt of that ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-10 12:32 PM |
#25 |
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Love me some Assange. K&R. |
davidwparker |
Dec-03-10 12:36 PM |
#27 |
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Ha ha! Fuck LIEberman. I hope his name comes up a lot. |
Hardrada |
Dec-03-10 12:37 PM |
#28 |
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Old news made new. This was the reason for Homeland Security raids |
axollot |
Dec-03-10 12:45 PM |
#31 |
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Why encrypt them if he is going to release them anyway? |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 12:52 PM |
#35 |
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I imagine he's letting them know - killing me wont shut it down. That is all. |
axollot |
Dec-03-10 12:59 PM |
#38 |
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I don't know anything about the technical stuff but I've read it's like onion rings |
Turborama |
Dec-03-10 01:05 PM |
#39 |
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It's a Mission Impossible PR stunt |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 01:35 PM |
#53 |
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If I were targeted for assignation, I would be |
Duval |
Dec-03-10 01:17 PM |
#43 |
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Yep, the media of today is just a corporate tool and only interested in |
RKP5637 |
Dec-03-10 01:30 PM |
#49 |
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You didn't answer my question |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 01:37 PM |
#55 |
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Well, it's answered now in #56 and it's been answered before on several sites and in many threads |
laughingliberal |
Dec-03-10 01:40 PM |
#57 |
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Your post didn't answer anything n/t |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 01:52 PM |
#64 |
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Nothing answers anything for the willfully blind. nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-03-10 02:07 PM |
#70 |
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Of course it did |
arikara |
Dec-04-10 12:35 AM |
#181 |
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Nevermind. nt |
14thColony |
Dec-03-10 01:50 PM |
#62 |
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So if you kill him, he's ensuring that you might also take out innocent bystanders? |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 01:58 PM |
#66 |
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In my personal opinion (and that's all it is) |
14thColony |
Dec-03-10 02:08 PM |
#72 |
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That might be the case |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 02:38 PM |
#80 |
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I agree with you as to the showmanship aspects of this |
14thColony |
Dec-03-10 03:22 PM |
#97 |
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if you understood what Assange's goal is |
northernlights |
Dec-03-10 06:42 PM |
#132 |
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The powers that be might kill him anyway |
daleo |
Dec-04-10 06:01 PM |
#195 |
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One of the best side effects of Wikileaks is watching authoritarian heads explode while they twist.. |
laughingliberal |
Dec-03-10 02:15 PM |
#74 |
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Yes, I do so enjoy that. |
truth2power |
Dec-03-10 07:07 PM |
#137 |
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indeed |
frylock |
Dec-03-10 08:28 PM |
#147 |
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I can answer that |
Taverner |
Dec-03-10 02:24 PM |
#76 |
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I'm not sure I understand |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 02:43 PM |
#81 |
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Pretty much, yeah |
Taverner |
Dec-03-10 02:47 PM |
#83 |
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So how does a statically-encrypted document bypass this? |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 02:51 PM |
#86 |
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Well that's the beauty of the encryption Assange is using |
Taverner |
Dec-03-10 03:20 PM |
#95 |
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It wouldn't matter even if each byte was encrypted with a different key |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 03:54 PM |
#100 |
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But only AFTER we decrypt it |
Taverner |
Dec-03-10 03:58 PM |
#102 |
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No they don't. The encrypted files you and I receive are identical |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 04:08 PM |
#105 |
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Yes, but every time he resends the doc, he re-encrypts it |
Taverner |
Dec-03-10 04:30 PM |
#113 |
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That would mean he would need to release 100,000 different keys or passphrases |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 04:44 PM |
#115 |
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Huh? PGP does that by default! |
Taverner |
Dec-03-10 05:18 PM |
#123 |
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Wow, going back over this, I just realized you have no clue what you're talking about |
Azathoth |
Dec-06-10 04:01 AM |
#205 |
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Well, obviously they are encrypted to assure that the data is not... |
tex-wyo-dem |
Dec-03-10 11:01 PM |
#164 |
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It's simple... |
ProudDad |
Dec-03-10 01:36 PM |
#54 |
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So you're saying that Assange is holding the lives of innocent folk hostage |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 01:40 PM |
#58 |
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Why not? |
ProudDad |
Dec-03-10 02:59 PM |
#88 |
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Asked and answered many times but just for you: |
laughingliberal |
Dec-03-10 01:38 PM |
#56 |
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Asked but apparently not answered |
Azathoth |
Dec-03-10 01:52 PM |
#63 |
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Sorry. Not buying it. Assange would rather release the information in a manner where it can... |
laughingliberal |
Dec-03-10 02:12 PM |
#73 |
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Yep, where's the Mike Gravel of today? (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Dec-03-10 03:02 PM |
#90 |
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There's the time element |
ProudDad |
Dec-03-10 03:01 PM |
#89 |
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If you draw it out you afford the time for some people to actually read and analyze it. |
glinda |
Dec-03-10 11:40 PM |
#170 |
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but you see, Mr. Assange is attention-seeking |
northernlights |
Dec-04-10 01:12 PM |
#194 |
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people posting after you are inviting others to look up |
truedelphi |
Dec-03-10 02:32 PM |
#79 |
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In words of one syl ah bull (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Dec-03-10 05:29 PM |
#126 |
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That too. |
truedelphi |
Dec-03-10 08:04 PM |
#143 |
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Let me try. Encrypted, he was able to release 100,000 copies before it was stopped. |
Festivito |
Dec-03-10 11:56 PM |
#175 |
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It is a smart move. If he releases everything now, he has given up some |
tekisui |
Dec-05-10 11:56 AM |
#201 |
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K&R |
Shining Jack |
Dec-03-10 01:10 PM |
#41 |
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Assange is a global patriot |
swilton |
Dec-03-10 01:22 PM |
#46 |
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Scooter Libby hired by WikiLeaks |
Mikeystyle |
Dec-03-10 01:26 PM |
#47 |
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Wouldn't that be surreal? |
texastoast |
Dec-03-10 02:01 PM |
#67 |
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Gotta love it!!! |
ProudDad |
Dec-03-10 01:30 PM |
#48 |
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Yeah, like a broken mast with sails twisting in the wind! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Dec-03-10 01:35 PM |
#52 |
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Excellent. I applaud this hero. |
Zhade |
Dec-03-10 01:49 PM |
#61 |
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na na na na na |
robinlynne |
Dec-03-10 01:55 PM |
#65 |
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Am I the only one that feels that.......... |
usaf-vet |
Dec-03-10 02:02 PM |
#68 |
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The big corporate guys don't think "we can handle it" |
texastoast |
Dec-03-10 02:05 PM |
#69 |
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That's my feeling too. |
truedelphi |
Dec-03-10 02:07 PM |
#71 |
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How do you figure it could be possible to stop the internet? |
Kaleko |
Dec-03-10 02:30 PM |
#78 |
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Well, here's one scenario: as the media companies that provide the technology |
truedelphi |
Dec-03-10 02:43 PM |
#82 |
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Yes, charging more for access to certain sites is conceivable, |
Kaleko |
Dec-03-10 03:20 PM |
#94 |
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I've been thinking similar. The really big money now feels at risk and the connections |
RKP5637 |
Dec-03-10 02:51 PM |
#85 |
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Capitalism almost by definition is a game of confidence |
liberation |
Dec-03-10 05:35 PM |
#127 |
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it's not just the banks, it's the corporate industrial congressional banking SECTreasuryFed complex |
wordpix |
Dec-03-10 07:47 PM |
#140 |
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Maybe he has some of Bush/Cheney's lost cables and notes. |
glinda |
Dec-03-10 11:44 PM |
#171 |
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You nailed it mate. n/t |
axollot |
Dec-04-10 11:09 AM |
#193 |
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Somehow I just feel that we are getting played.... |
coyote |
Dec-03-10 02:29 PM |
#77 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-03-10 03:13 PM |
#93 |
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Isn't it frowned upon to judge others based on their post count? |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Dec-03-10 04:20 PM |
#109 |
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Probably wouldn't have gotten much attention now if it was just a USA story. nm |
laughingliberal |
Dec-03-10 06:41 PM |
#131 |
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Coyote... |
truth2power |
Dec-03-10 07:29 PM |
#138 |
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If you watch how the media does things... |
bhikkhu |
Dec-03-10 08:32 PM |
#148 |
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I think that's a good instinct, coyote. Ask questions. Be skeptical. Especially important as to |
Peace Patriot |
Dec-03-10 09:28 PM |
#155 |
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Just wanted to add that the way they're treating Manning indicates that the war establishment |
Peace Patriot |
Dec-03-10 09:53 PM |
#159 |
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Thanks for the OP. Turborama. |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-03-10 03:12 PM |
#92 |
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So in the case of using the insurance file, what is the best method to publish? |
LandR |
Dec-03-10 03:22 PM |
#96 |
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Not a blogger in the world who wouldn't give their eye teeth to be the first one out with it. nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-03-10 06:44 PM |
#134 |
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I almost hope they arrest him |
Ramulux |
Dec-03-10 03:54 PM |
#99 |
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This is SO impressive... thinkin' ahead !!! n/t |
orbitalman |
Dec-03-10 03:54 PM |
#101 |
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Was this that 1 gigabyte file that they released a while back? |
Duer 157099 |
Dec-03-10 03:59 PM |
#103 |
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They also released... |
Shining Jack |
Dec-03-10 04:59 PM |
#118 |
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k&r |
madmax |
Dec-03-10 04:09 PM |
#106 |
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Julian Assange... |
Dangerman |
Dec-03-10 04:33 PM |
#114 |
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The domain name was shut down, but there are new ones.... |
Autumn Colors |
Dec-03-10 05:03 PM |
#119 |
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I've gone to the sites BUT |
shanti2 |
Dec-03-10 08:25 PM |
#146 |
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Someone said on NPR that if Wikileaks had been around BEFORE Iraq, the war would have been stopped. |
mistertrickster |
Dec-03-10 05:12 PM |
#120 |
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Thanks for ripping the cover off this steaming pile of shit |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-03-10 05:13 PM |
#121 |
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Bravo! K and R |
ClayZ |
Dec-03-10 05:37 PM |
#128 |
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k&r for Assange, hero to the planet. fuck all fascists + their asskissers, some on this thread. n/t |
marasinghe |
Dec-03-10 06:43 PM |
#133 |
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I bet he got some |
mstinamotorcity |
Dec-03-10 06:49 PM |
#135 |
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Kind of like most leaks! |
stray cat |
Dec-03-10 06:52 PM |
#136 |
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K&R Great! nt |
snappyturtle |
Dec-03-10 07:50 PM |
#142 |
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Tell the truth, shame whoever deserves it. |
SalmonChantedEvening |
Dec-03-10 08:52 PM |
#150 |
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K&R....n/t |
unkachuck |
Dec-03-10 08:56 PM |
#151 |
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K&R |
Celtic Raven |
Dec-03-10 08:57 PM |
#152 |
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Witch Hunt on Steroids |
NeeDeep |
Dec-03-10 09:05 PM |
#153 |
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Interesting watch the government and corporations get their undies in a bunch |
Thor_MN |
Dec-03-10 09:19 PM |
#154 |
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I got sick today when I learned that we are supplying the Saudis with |
tsuki |
Dec-03-10 09:43 PM |
#156 |
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Brass ones. Rec. nt |
bertman |
Dec-03-10 09:44 PM |
#157 |
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I hope he got a hold of the JFK files. The public deserves to know the truth. |
craigmatic |
Dec-03-10 09:47 PM |
#158 |
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You have to admire the man |
texshelters |
Dec-03-10 10:12 PM |
#161 |
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Like the freepers used to say...when we found out Bush was spying |
Hubert Flottz |
Dec-03-10 10:27 PM |
#162 |
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So what? |
Axle_techie |
Dec-03-10 10:28 PM |
#163 |
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No-one has been able to crack it open yet, and it's been available to download since July |
Turborama |
Dec-03-10 11:36 PM |
#169 |
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I am hoping there is a second, third and fourth back up plan. |
glinda |
Dec-03-10 11:55 PM |
#174 |
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This is total Cyberpunk! |
blackspade |
Dec-03-10 11:26 PM |
#167 |
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The next war is NOW, and is being fought on the net. /nt |
Festivito |
Dec-03-10 11:58 PM |
#176 |
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We are definately in the warm up stage. |
blackspade |
Dec-04-10 12:08 AM |
#178 |
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Assange would have more credibility if his ego was just a TAD smaller |
newtothegame |
Dec-04-10 09:06 AM |
#184 |
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Your ball is too small |
kgnu_fan |
Dec-04-10 09:14 AM |
#186 |
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They're going to get him in custody. They're going to find out what he knows. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-04-10 10:49 AM |
#191 |
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Report: WikiLeaks Has Insurance File (Suspected of Including BP, Guantanamo Bay) |
Hissyspit |
Dec-04-10 10:27 PM |
#196 |
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This is great news. Gramsci would have heartily approved. |
Ruperto31 |
Dec-04-10 10:27 PM |
#197 |
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Why would Bradley Manning have BofA files? |
JDPriestly |
Dec-04-10 10:27 PM |
#198 |
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Why are you assuming they came from Bradley Manning? |
Hissyspit |
Dec-05-10 02:42 AM |
#199 |
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maybe there's a wikileaker in the SEC, Treasury or DOJ? |
wordpix |
Dec-05-10 12:33 PM |
#203 |
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Why doesn't he just release them all NOW? |
mainer |
Dec-05-10 11:33 AM |
#200 |
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truthout! And Bank of America, too! |
wordpix |
Dec-05-10 12:32 PM |
#202 |