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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:54 PM
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20. yeah. I'm okay with the need for secrecy, for some things
Not for things like the members of Cheney's energy advisory board, because secrecy was specifically not in the service of the nation, only the oligarchy.

However, when it comes to national security, there's very often--not always, as we learned from the march to war in Iraq--a real need for secrecy, not so much to keep information from the law-abiding members of the U.S. population but from those who would do us harm.

Admittedly, I haven't read much about what's supposed to be in the Wikileaks documents, so maybe trying to keep them secret was 100% uncool. But surely there are top top secret things in there that we don't want Iran or North Korea to know about, and I don't take it personally that my government isn't keeping me in the loop about them.
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  -US embassy cables: Gates warns of war with Iran Turborama  Nov-28-10 01:29 PM   #0 
  - I'm torn by this. On one hand I DO understand the need for  gateley   Nov-28-10 01:36 PM   #1 
  - Feel pretty much the same way here  Posteritatis   Nov-28-10 01:43 PM   #2 
  - I don't consider myself an historian, but I will be riveted nonetheless. nt  gateley   Nov-28-10 01:56 PM   #4 
  - How is this going to point the finger at Bush?  Imajika   Nov-28-10 02:04 PM   #5 
  - CBS confirms 2006 Raw Story scoop: Plame's job was to keep nukes from Iran  bananas   Nov-28-10 05:33 PM   #25 
     - So Can We Put Cheney On Trial Yet?  AndyTiedye   Nov-28-10 08:11 PM   #28 
  - What does Bush have to do with this? His name doesn't even show up in the article.  Township75   Nov-28-10 05:00 PM   #23 
  - The world has just become a much more dangerous place  Zorro   Nov-28-10 01:46 PM   #3 
  - Indeed...  Imajika   Nov-28-10 02:07 PM   #6 
  - Cmon, agents Zorro and Imajika  lepus   Nov-28-10 02:16 PM   #8 
  - Oh stop babbling about empire...  Imajika   Nov-28-10 03:54 PM   #21 
  - It disheartened me watching a former professor of constitutional law (Obama) say  coalition_unwilling   Nov-28-10 08:24 PM   #30 
  - just your perception, since this is the reality you were denied  ShamelessHussy   Nov-28-10 02:13 PM   #7 
  - What people would those be?  jaxx   Nov-28-10 02:28 PM   #10 
     - weTHEpeople  ShamelessHussy   Nov-28-10 02:35 PM   #11 
        - We are going to bypass the legislative branch and make policy?  jaxx   Nov-28-10 02:44 PM   #12 
        - influence policy  ShamelessHussy   Nov-28-10 02:48 PM   #13 
           - What and who are you going to influence?  jaxx   Nov-28-10 02:56 PM   #14 
              - So try to influence Sen. Kyl 202-224-4521 Tell him your tired  WHEN CRABS ROAR   Nov-28-10 03:42 PM   #18 
              - Them Iranian evildoers must be taken out. Whoooooooo hoooooooo. Shock 'n' Awe!!  MrsCorleone   Nov-28-10 07:42 PM   #26 
                 - Keep yukking it up. The likelihood of an attack on Iranian nuke sites just went up.  Zorro   Nov-28-10 08:11 PM   #27 
                    - Perhaps, I should have added the:  MrsCorleone   Nov-28-10 08:33 PM   #31 
        - Well called! Thank you.  The abyss   Nov-28-10 03:10 PM   #16 
  - Agreed. This leaked information will promote war and make peace more difficult  andym   Nov-28-10 02:26 PM   #9 
  - I fear this is just one instance of the damage that will be done. I don't see how anything good will  OregonBlue   Nov-28-10 03:29 PM   #17 
     - yeah. I'm okay with the need for secrecy, for some things  renate   Nov-28-10 03:54 PM   #20 
  - Do you or does anyone know what the person who leaks these  Fruittree   Nov-28-10 03:03 PM   #15 
  - He dumped them for lulz and because hi disliked the army. you can google bradley manning and  Pavulon   Nov-28-10 03:46 PM   #19 
  - Hey, if they have "nothing to hide" then they have nothing to fear. Isn't that what they tell us?  krabigirl   Nov-28-10 04:06 PM   #22 
  - If you have "nothing to hide"  Zorro   Nov-28-10 10:24 PM   #32 
  - The world was dangerous, we just didn't know what was going on  ThomThom   Nov-28-10 05:27 PM   #24 
  - so we are talking WWIII  lovuian   Nov-28-10 08:16 PM   #29 
     - Hey, it worked so well last time ...  Nihil   Nov-29-10 07:57 AM   #33 

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