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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:39 AM
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82. No my friend this is common sense. The south was conducting an exercise, a test
and the north returned fire on a target with a civilian population. Unless people are retarded there is no way to equate these things.

And in 1994 we were far closer to a shooting war in korea. But I am sure you know that.

Everything is a provocation to the north.
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  -Obama Sends Aircraft Carrier to South Korea After North’s Attack nadinbrzezinski  Nov-24-10 02:34 AM   #0 
  - Hands are tied in this one.  shotten99   Nov-24-10 03:21 AM   #1 
  - That Carrier will scare the hell out of them  saigon68   Nov-24-10 09:38 AM   #19 
     - a CBG (carrier battle group)  bossy22   Nov-24-10 02:04 PM   #37 
        - So can artillery just a few miles from Seoul  ProudDad   Nov-26-10 02:57 PM   #67 
           - Impotent. I am sure obama is on his knees right now  Pavulon   Nov-26-10 10:56 PM   #73 
  - Showing the flag is the right move in this situation.  proteus_lives   Nov-24-10 03:42 AM   #2 
  - Perhaps  destes   Nov-24-10 04:52 AM   #3 
     - I agree, the dynamics are different.  proteus_lives   Nov-24-10 05:11 AM   #4 
        - you ask how can we walk away from an ally?  sweetapogee   Nov-24-10 06:04 AM   #5 
        - Treaties are contitutionaly based obligations of the US. We must act  kelly1mm   Nov-24-10 07:27 AM   #8 
        - Tell that to the Native Americans  dflprincess   Nov-24-10 09:16 PM   #51 
        - "war is not the answer under any circumstances"  proteus_lives   Nov-24-10 01:04 PM   #32 
        - I gather you think war was not the answer when Hitler stood to control Europe?  kestrel91316   Nov-24-10 11:11 PM   #55 
        - something to think on.  destes   Nov-25-10 04:07 AM   #56 
           - So your preference would have been to let Hitler and the Nazis have Europe?  kestrel91316   Nov-25-10 11:53 AM   #62 
        - Most people would agree with you that war is seldom the answer,  Creative   Nov-25-10 07:32 AM   #57 
        - Which battleships do you think we should sell to them?  The Croquist   Nov-25-10 11:51 AM   #61 
        - Not that I completely agree with him, but...  armodem08   Nov-27-10 01:14 PM   #90 
        - "war is not the answer under any circumstances"  The Green Manalishi   Nov-26-10 02:33 PM   #66 
        - South Korea's economy dwarves that of North Korea  exboyfil   Nov-24-10 06:37 AM   #7 
           - for tin foil types  sweetapogee   Nov-24-10 07:41 AM   #11 
           - If North Korea strikes the South we don't need an excuse to get in the war  The Croquist   Nov-27-10 12:28 PM   #87 
           - You're ignoring the nuke card.  proteus_lives   Nov-24-10 01:07 PM   #34 
           - Well if I was going to use one of those nukes  exboyfil   Nov-24-10 01:47 PM   #35 
              - One word: treaty.  proteus_lives   Nov-24-10 03:15 PM   #41 
              - As far as I am aware, the only, at least formal, mutual defense treaty between US and UK  Ghost Dog   Nov-24-10 06:06 PM   #45 
              - S. Korea is on track for autonomous defense  jberryhill   Nov-24-10 03:29 PM   #42 
              - By "back to the Stone Age", just exactly what do you mean?  Ghost Dog   Nov-24-10 06:04 PM   #44 
           - Very cogent argument  daleo   Nov-27-10 09:00 PM   #94 
  - Bush & Co dropped troop numbers in S. Korea from 40k  KeepItReal   Nov-24-10 06:11 AM   #6 
  - That's the appropriate response top aggression.  robcon   Nov-24-10 07:28 AM   #9 
  - Didn't South Korea just stiff Obama on that trade agreement?  jpak   Nov-24-10 07:35 AM   #10 
  - Oh boy...sigh..n/t  peace13   Nov-24-10 08:05 AM   #12 
  - Why is China allowing the carriers to sail?  Bragi   Nov-24-10 09:01 AM   #13 
  - I'm sorry - is that REALLY how you think things work?  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-24-10 09:25 AM   #16 
  - I just want to be sure the paymasters are okjay with this  Bragi   Nov-24-10 10:02 AM   #21 
     - The Chinese need us more than we need them.  Dreamer Tatum   Nov-24-10 10:08 AM   #22 
     - China has a far larger, and fast growing, market at home in the Middle Kingdom  Ghost Dog   Nov-24-10 06:21 PM   #46 
     - China is in military and currency pacts with Russia  PufPuf23   Nov-26-10 02:41 AM   #65 
     - Wow.  proteus_lives   Nov-24-10 01:06 PM   #33 
     - Good news! China is onside  Bragi   Nov-24-10 02:04 PM   #38 
  - Treaty obligations  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-10 11:31 AM   #28 
  - Is there any country in the world that would militarialy come to  lumpy   Nov-24-10 09:01 AM   #14 
  - Well, I have family in afganistan  borelord   Nov-24-10 09:17 AM   #15 
  - IMHO you're answer is NO.  sarcasmo   Nov-24-10 09:33 AM   #18 
  - According to this story, NOT South Korea!  Romulox   Nov-24-10 10:10 AM   #23 
  - Signators of the NATO treaty..(nt)  Pavulon   Nov-24-10 02:06 PM   #39 
  - A very small handful...but they wouldn't last long.  roamer65   Nov-24-10 09:16 PM   #52 
  - As mentioned above, NATO... There are lots of countries in Afghanistan  xor   Nov-26-10 04:22 PM   #70 
  - Again, this is not the change I voted for.  sarcasmo   Nov-24-10 09:32 AM   #17 
  - Get the USofA Troops Gathered Up  Red1   Nov-24-10 09:39 AM   #20 
  - Great plan..except for the whole N.K. has nukes thing...  truebrit71   Nov-24-10 10:46 AM   #26 
  - Your Plan  Red1   Nov-24-10 11:44 AM   #30 
     - The south does NOT have nukes  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-24-10 11:52 AM   #31 
  - Unless if North Korea won,  Dash87   Nov-24-10 01:54 PM   #36 
  - If I was the Navy brass, I'd be more worried about subs than missles over there  Baclava   Nov-24-10 10:22 AM   #24 
  - Interesting, I would bet that has been accounted for  Pavulon   Nov-24-10 02:07 PM   #40 
     - Somebody got some asplainin' to do for that sub - for sure  Baclava   Nov-24-10 05:48 PM   #43 
  - What the fuck?!?! Korean War Redux  Xenotime   Nov-24-10 10:23 AM   #25 
  - How do you say "Gulf of Tonkin" in Korean?  Canuckistanian   Nov-24-10 10:47 AM   #27 
  - This is the wrong thing to do. Obama should follow Carter/Clinton's example and DEFUSE  ProgressiveMajority   Nov-24-10 11:38 AM   #29 
  - Exactly but Obama still has Bush military men in place and is nothing like Carter or Clinton.  sarcasmo   Nov-27-10 09:54 AM   #84 
     - Sadly I think you're right. Obama is following the Bush policy in N.Korea  ProgressiveMajority   Nov-27-10 08:39 PM   #93 
  - Tim Shorrock: Direct Talks With North Korea Are the Only Answer to End Korean War  CHIMO   Nov-24-10 06:28 PM   #47 
  - It is a bad idea to go back into the yellow sea  soryang   Nov-24-10 07:38 PM   #48 
  - I am really tired of the US playing world police  and-justice-for-all   Nov-24-10 07:42 PM   #49 
  - Dumb move...unless the goal is to re-start the Korean War.  roamer65   Nov-24-10 09:13 PM   #50 
  - War with NK is coming. Might as well be Obama doing it...  time_has_come   Nov-24-10 09:21 PM   #53 
  - Why does the South have to provoke these nutbars?  time_has_come   Nov-24-10 09:29 PM   #54 
  - It's just the opposite.  robcon   Nov-25-10 07:39 AM   #58 
  - The attacks are provoked.  tuckessee   Nov-25-10 10:25 AM   #59 
     - Wow. the bullshit is overflowing.  robcon   Nov-25-10 11:43 AM   #60 
     - Do your own research, you lazy-ass propagandist.  tuckessee   Nov-25-10 11:55 AM   #63 
     - why does South Korea feel the need to play chicken with a nation run by madmen  ProudDad   Nov-26-10 03:03 PM   #68 
     - Because they dont want to be fucked over by a bully?  Pavulon   Nov-26-10 11:02 PM   #76 
        - You couldn't lick 'em the last war.  tuckessee   Nov-26-10 11:27 PM   #77 
           - Met a man who watched 10,000 iraqis in gw1 become 128 wounded  Pavulon   Nov-26-10 11:35 PM   #78 
              - Ah yes, the Ramallah Masscare is the Crown Jewel of modern US military history.  tuckessee   Nov-26-10 11:49 PM   #79 
                 - dont know dick, this was armor and dismounts  Pavulon   Nov-26-10 11:56 PM   #80 
     - Here's one...  ProudDad   Nov-26-10 03:03 PM   #69 
     - Agreed. South Korea should just pull out of disputed areas n/t  ProgressiveMajority   Nov-26-10 10:56 PM   #72 
        - Yes they should pull out of south korea and submit to the kimmy will  Pavulon   Nov-26-10 10:57 PM   #74 
        - Then what? Where else will they have to pull out?  Codeine   Nov-27-10 01:12 PM   #89 
  - Yup. US and S.Korean military drills provoked NK... S.Korean "Christians" should try non-violence  ProgressiveMajority   Nov-26-10 10:47 PM   #71 
     - The north dropped live fire in a civilian population. you guys keep  Pavulon   Nov-26-10 11:00 PM   #75 
        - No, according to the poster before me, the south provoked the North into that action  ProgressiveMajority   Nov-27-10 12:11 AM   #81 
           - No my friend this is common sense. The south was conducting an exercise, a test  Pavulon   Nov-27-10 09:39 AM   #82 
           - Uhh, North Korea considers the mere existence of South Korea a provocation. (nt)  Posteritatis   Nov-27-10 11:25 AM   #85 
  - Remember the Maine!  Vidar   Nov-25-10 07:17 PM   #64 
  - The sad thing is our Military Industrial Complex thrives on war and wants this to happen.  sarcasmo   Nov-27-10 09:52 AM   #83 
  - You mean people who pay high wages to union labor?  Pavulon   Nov-27-10 12:15 PM   #86 
     - The Miitary Industrial Complex? even Eisenhower talked about the Military Industrial Complex.  sarcasmo   Nov-27-10 01:05 PM   #88 
        - Sure, I know what he said and others said. But how is Lockheed  Pavulon   Nov-27-10 01:19 PM   #91 
           - Did Obama need to send warships?  sarcasmo   Nov-27-10 02:36 PM   #92 
              - Do you have any facts to support your statement, fuck no. Are you  Pavulon   Nov-28-10 12:11 AM   #96 
  - The Republican supporters  classysassy   Nov-28-10 12:08 AM   #95 
 

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