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Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 11:28 AM by ProudDad
"Why We Fight describes the rise and maintenance of the United States military-industrial complex (originally called the military-industrial-congressional complex by Eisenhower) and its fifty-year involvement with the wars led by the United States to date, especially its 2003 Invasion of Iraq. The documentary asserts that in every decade since World War II, the American public was misled so that the Government (incumbent Administration) could take them to war and fuel the military-industrial economy maintaining American political dominance in the world. Interviewed about this matter, are politician John McCain, political scientist and former-CIA analyst Chalmers Johnson, politician Richard Perle, neoconservative commentator William Kristol, writer Gore Vidal, and public policy expert Joseph Cirincione." Why We Fight documents the consequences of said foreign policy with the stories of a Vietnam War veteran whose son was killed in the September 11, 2001 attacks, and who then asked the military to write the name of his dead son on any bomb to be dropped in Iraq; and that of a twenty-three-year-old New Yorker who enlists in the United States Army because he was poor and in debt, his decision impelled by his mother's death; and a female military explosives scientist who arrived in the U.S. as a refugee child from Vietnam in 1975." http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=921985882642198... Thanks for this, Eisenhower -- why didn't you do something about it, fucker? Why didn't you warn about the MIC in your Inaugural address instead of your farewell address -- after Nixon lost to Kennedy who out saber-rattled you republicans...
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| -U.S. Tweaks Message: Troops Will Still Be in Afghanistan in 2014 |
cory777 |
Nov-10-10 09:50 PM |
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Even the smartest person, if they follow a dumb idea, is dumb. n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Nov-10-10 09:55 PM |
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They will be there forever--- Look at Korea |
saigon68 |
Nov-13-10 08:40 AM |
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2014??? and more dead bodies, war sucks |
bdamomma |
Nov-10-10 09:55 PM |
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Last line of the article- it's really a Sekret Trick! I shit you not! |
Poll_Blind |
Nov-10-10 09:57 PM |
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Disgraceful .... !!! Didn't we elect Dems in '06 to end the wars .... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-10-10 10:01 PM |
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Well, maybe "they" elected repubs in '10 to keep 'em goin' |
Roma |
Nov-10-10 11:07 PM |
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'06 ... Pelosi on video ... "Dems were elected to end the war in Iraq" .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-10-10 11:40 PM |
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It is becoming apparent who Obama is listening to. |
Winterblues |
Nov-11-10 10:12 AM |
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That's why I left the party. |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-10-10 11:43 PM |
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Going for Broke |
markmyword |
Nov-10-10 10:44 PM |
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But the money printing press works!! |
speppin |
Nov-11-10 07:03 AM |
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+1 Welcome to DU n/t |
Catherina |
Nov-11-10 07:12 AM |
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So now this optional war against a country a fraction of our size |
Blue Owl |
Nov-10-10 11:19 PM |
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The point is perpetual war for elites/warprofiteers ... that's all .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-10-10 11:41 PM |
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Lovely. So that will be almost 15 yrs...absolutely horrible. |
krabigirl |
Nov-10-10 11:42 PM |
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Obama officials moving away from 2011 Afghan date |
Newsjock |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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well of COURSE |
Skittles |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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your quads will be HUGE by the time you're done, in that case nt |
MisterP |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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I kettlebell |
Skittles |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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I said this before too |
saigon68 |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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yup |
Skittles |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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Not enough people are invested in these wars. |
dgibby |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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I just thought this was stage 2 of "three dimensional chess"........... |
pattmarty |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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No surprise here. We must be at war indefinitely. It is the American way. |
AllyCat |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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I'm in SHOCK! |
The Doctor. |
Nov-11-10 12:02 AM |
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Of course they are.It was to be expected. |
saracat |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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*facepalm* |
sakabatou |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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Surprise, surprise. |
Webster Green |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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don't talk about my planet |
Tunkamerica |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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Do you think we can mine and pump all of Afghanistan's... |
clixtox |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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clixtox, that was BRILLIANT!! A deadly accurate assessment. nt |
bertman |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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I hated that I laughed at the 1399 thing... |
CUTTIN HEADS |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Bullseye! |
dgibby |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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since Nixon we have been taken over by a Dominionist Oligharcy >LINK>> |
sam sarrha |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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So Cancel your insurance |
liberalmike27 |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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I'm wondering, Could we use Strauss's logic |
liberalmike27 |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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18 months, eh? |
Amonester |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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Yes. It's not a matter of winning a war. It's about sucking up the remaining |
Hardrada |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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And to think I must have made too many enemies on DU |
Amonester |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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SCHEDULING AMONESTER FOR ASS KICKING |
Skittles |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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Well, yeah. And they'll have all our lovely SS money to spend on it. nt |
laughingliberal |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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good point. they've been |
DesertFlower |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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what did you think politicians would do with the money? |
DoctorK |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Meet the new boss... |
gadjitfreek |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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Why? We're in Afghanistan, too. |
OnlinePoker |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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exactly |
ixion |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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Goodness gracious, what a shock! |
democrank |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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Well, that was fast (but not terribly surprising) |
FlyByNight |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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self delete |
florida08 |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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This is Obama's exit strategy |
The Wizard |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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2nd that |
florida08 |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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Yep. I can't see how he can win re-election if he can't even get us |
Nay |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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It's time to think about 2012's nominee |
Loge23 |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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It's the first strategy I've seen him apply that will actually work..... |
indy legend |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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*DUzy* Nominee! |
Dinger |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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the soil of afganistan has soaked up the blood of would be conquers for centuries.. |
madrchsod |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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drone |
happi1 |
Nov-11-10 12:00 AM |
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Welcome to Vietghanistan, graveyard of empires. |
Citizen Worker |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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They said 'just kidding' the day after it was announced |
MannyGoldstein |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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I would usually write something witty and funny about how all too predictable this ............. |
Exilednight |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Dismantling the American Empire? Nah! |
2critical |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Yeah? |
Solly Mack |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Does he REALLY want to chase away the 40% of his base he still has left? |
Pab Sungenis |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Everyone knows that the REAL DEM base are Regan Democrats & conservative swing-voters. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Well done, that was satire right? n/t |
Catherina |
Nov-11-10 07:14 AM |
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very few |
creon |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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*Maniacal Laughter* |
donco6 |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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How will this be paid for? Suspending the tax cuts on the rich, |
doc03 |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Grandma will be giving up breakfast for bullets. |
Vinca |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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I am 62 and retired myself, my job moved to China and to |
doc03 |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Centrists & good conservatives do not count war spending as regular spending. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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The SOBs are working on cutting SS already and god knows |
lumpy |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Yah, SS $$. |
harun |
Nov-15-10 10:55 AM |
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Ahhhh... |
crim son |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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+1 |
doc03 |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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+2 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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+1000 n/t |
MissDeeds |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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I won't vote for him ever again. |
Ganja Ninja |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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That's my President! |
Frisbee |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Certainly THIS will bring Dems back to the polls. |
GOTV |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Not according to these reports: |
ProSense |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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The key sentence |
zipplewrath |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Yes, it's key |
ProSense |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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It's no more spin than the AP article |
zipplewrath |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Bookmark this post |
jgraz |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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I used to say the more things change the more they stay the same, |
TBF |
Nov-11-10 07:58 AM |
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Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Uh huh. Can't wait to hear that we're also "walking toward" open war in Pakistan. |
DirkGently |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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This will surely impress moderates & swing voters to vote for DEMS. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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"You're Nearly A Laugh... |
Winston Wolf |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Not good. Not good at all. |
Catherina |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Surprize! |
Fearless |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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I think it was folly to believe it in the first place. |
AngryOldDem |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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We. Are. Never. Leaving. |
Javaman |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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oh, we'll leave of course. just not of our nation's own volition... |
NuttyFluffers |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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I fear you're right. n/t |
area51 |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Your headline is a lie. But I doubt that concerns you much. |
Aramchek |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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If you don't like the headline, take it up with McClatchy |
Newsjock |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Who is the real liar? We shall see. n/t |
totodeinhere |
Nov-11-10 12:02 AM |
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War - it's what's for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and all meals in between. |
Kablooie |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Endless War. |
Matariki |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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another day, another lie revealed |
placton |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Moving from "Cornpone's Disaster" to "Cornpone's Catastrophe". |
Vidar |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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Canada's staying on longer as well by reframing the debate. |
TrogL |
Nov-11-10 12:01 AM |
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There is only one agenda for this administration. |
BlueIris |
Nov-11-10 12:02 AM |
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So much for change, what a JOKE! |
sarcasmo |
Nov-11-10 12:02 AM |
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Everyday I get a little more pissed off...nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Nov-11-10 12:02 AM |
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Duh. |
readmoreoften |
Nov-11-10 12:02 AM |
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Just yesterday people were telling us this was a damnable lie! |
QC |
Nov-11-10 10:23 AM |
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fucking scammers |
meow mix |
Nov-13-10 08:28 AM |
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New Propaganda Buzzword. "Tweaks." |
TheWatcher |
Nov-11-10 02:03 AM |
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Except for rich, white, male property holders |
ProudDad |
Nov-12-10 11:32 AM |
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GITMO was closed though |
panzerfaust |
Nov-11-10 05:45 AM |
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What if he isn't really planning on staying that long and is using |
Sky Masterson |
Nov-11-10 06:09 AM |
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Perpetual war, huh, what is it good for? |
City Lights |
Nov-11-10 07:30 AM |
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War is Peace!! n/t |
conspirator |
Nov-11-10 09:22 AM |
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If you want to reduce the deficit stop being the World's Police. |
sarcasmo |
Nov-11-10 10:19 AM |
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+1 |
nalnn |
Nov-15-10 10:40 AM |
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They have tweaked that troops in Korea thing a few times as well. |
Creative |
Nov-11-10 05:39 PM |
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how can we afford to stay so over-long? |
StarsInHerHair |
Nov-11-10 10:24 PM |
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Hell, troops are still going to be in IRAQ in 2014... |
ProudDad |
Nov-12-10 11:22 AM |
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Why We Fight... |
ProudDad |
Nov-12-10 11:27 AM |
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Washington Rules... |
ProudDad |
Nov-12-10 11:31 AM |
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make that 2020, at least. |
meow mix |
Nov-13-10 08:22 AM |
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If this is the case, then |
tomg |
Nov-13-10 09:22 AM |
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In related news, the new Congress says we have to up retirement age to keep paying for these |
sarcasmo |
Nov-13-10 10:39 AM |
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Gosh. Why? |
Octafish |
Nov-13-10 09:17 PM |
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And 50,000 will remain in Iraq - betcha didn't know that? |
Imagevision |
Nov-13-10 10:53 PM |
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But, but this president is *anti* war!! He cares about peace, |
BlueIris |
Nov-15-10 06:08 AM |
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If the generals won't give him permission |
jeanpalmer |
Nov-14-10 05:49 AM |
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In other news, lasting mid-east peace seems elusive. |
No Elephants |
Nov-15-10 05:57 AM |
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Obama's true objective. |
BlueIris |
Nov-15-10 06:06 AM |
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Fail |
harun |
Nov-15-10 10:51 AM |
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