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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 08:18 AM
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28. Could you explain something to me, then?
Edited on Wed Oct-27-10 08:18 AM by Occulus
I was once a member of the Madison Scouts Drum and Bugle Corps, a member corps of Drum Corps International. The year I performed with them, 1994, they were one of the top six corps in the world, placing 6th at DCI finals.

None of the performers in DCI are paid. In fact, they pay corps fees for the privilege of touring for the summer. These fees can range up to several thousand dollars to perform for three months with the 'big name' corps, such as the Holy Name Cadets (previously known as the Garfield Cadets and the Cadets of Bergen County) or the Cavaliers (Rosemont, IL) or the Phantom Regiment (Rockford/Loves Park, IL).

Videos of the corps are routinely posted on YouTube immediately after DCI finals, but YouTube yanks them as fast as it can "due to a copyright claim". I've posted links to several here on DU over the past couple years, which are now sadly gone from the intertubez. Yet the performers are not paid- they pay, through the nose, and never see as much as a penny for their literal blood, sweat, and tears.

During those three months, they work harder than any performer (in any discipline) I've ever seen or heard of. I can say this with some authority because I did it, and was a musician both before and after as well; it was the hardest physical thing of any kind I've ever done. Yet their- excuse me, our- performances get scrubbed into oblivion due to a copyright claim.

My question to you is: how is that right? Is posting their performances to YouTube or another site a copyright violation?

And should it be?

To give people an idea of what I've talked about above, I give you Carolina Crown 2009: "The Grass is Always Greener". Enjoy. It might get yanked soon.
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