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Sun Oct-24-10 11:24 PM
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I so agree with you.
TSA makes you remove your "shoes" even if they have no sole or heel such as my moccasins or flat sandals. Why does that make sense?
It is all show.
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| -Pilot Refuses Full Body Scan, Says He's Fighting for Rights |
sabra |
Oct-22-10 10:52 AM |
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Did they check for the Axe that's in his cockpit? |
zipplewrath |
Oct-22-10 10:58 AM |
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That is one hell of a good point |
Boudica the Lyoness |
Oct-22-10 11:22 AM |
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Axe Shmaxe, they want to find box cutters! |
Javaman |
Oct-22-10 01:27 PM |
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and shampoo |
FiveGoodMen |
Oct-22-10 04:29 PM |
#72 |
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Yes! we must not forget the shampoo of death. |
Javaman |
Oct-23-10 08:28 AM |
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Make sure they don't have |
madokie |
Oct-22-10 02:08 PM |
#55 |
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Excellent point |
dflprincess |
Oct-22-10 09:41 PM |
#84 |
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He doesn't need an axe |
Hawkowl |
Oct-24-10 01:14 AM |
#152 |
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Good for him! |
Jim__ |
Oct-22-10 10:59 AM |
#2 |
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My Thoughts........ |
rsmith6621 |
Oct-22-10 11:00 AM |
#3 |
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Better yet, don't fly. Take a train if possible or drive. nt |
pokercat999 |
Oct-23-10 10:49 AM |
#127 |
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Michael Roberts; |
greiner3 |
Oct-22-10 11:06 AM |
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Full body scanning is ridiculous overkill |
felix_numinous |
Oct-22-10 11:12 AM |
#5 |
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if he doesn't like the rules |
davidinalameda |
Oct-22-10 11:13 AM |
#6 |
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I assume you see |
L.Torsalo |
Oct-22-10 11:27 AM |
#9 |
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Just a minute. |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-22-10 11:31 AM |
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actually it is a good thing to do |
davidinalameda |
Oct-22-10 01:47 PM |
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Oct-22-10 02:39 PM |
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Oct-22-10 03:10 PM |
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ah, yes, increased security would be great. |
uncle ray |
Oct-22-10 03:20 PM |
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Oct-22-10 03:58 PM |
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Oct-22-10 05:35 PM |
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such a considered opinion. catching all the subtleties of the issue. nt |
tomp |
Oct-22-10 09:42 PM |
#85 |
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Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither. |
ixion |
Oct-23-10 05:46 AM |
#97 |
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It works! |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-23-10 08:36 AM |
#107 |
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I'm sorry but you're wrong. |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-23-10 10:38 AM |
#125 |
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Sacrificing a little liberty for a little security, gets you neither. |
Javaman |
Oct-22-10 01:29 PM |
#45 |
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It's Not Even That |
RobinA |
Oct-22-10 03:09 PM |
#58 |
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And there you have the answer. |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-23-10 11:28 AM |
#129 |
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he doesn't have the right to pick and chose which rules he follows |
davidinalameda |
Oct-22-10 09:34 PM |
#83 |
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Like I said, reread the 4th amendment. nt |
Javaman |
Oct-23-10 08:26 AM |
#104 |
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the point that people are missing |
davidinalameda |
Oct-23-10 01:23 PM |
#140 |
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I guess you don't have your own copy of the 4th Amendment, here you go... |
Javaman |
Oct-23-10 09:14 PM |
#147 |
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Ashcroft? Is that you? |
20score |
Oct-23-10 10:13 AM |
#118 |
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+1,000 |
suede1 |
Oct-23-10 04:30 PM |
#143 |
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Duplicate. Oops. |
suede1 |
Oct-23-10 04:30 PM |
#144 |
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"sounds more like a spoiled child than some sort of civil rights protester" |
RetroLounge |
Oct-23-10 10:29 AM |
#120 |
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personal attacks are so unattractive |
davidinalameda |
Oct-23-10 01:11 PM |
#139 |
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There's that mirror again. |
RetroLounge |
Oct-23-10 09:11 PM |
#146 |
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The 4th AMENDMENT SAYS he shouldn't have to follow that rule |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:27 PM |
#153 |
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"I like being a doe-eyed go-along. If you don't have anything to hide nothing hwy worrry about it?" |
TheWatcher |
Oct-22-10 01:35 PM |
#47 |
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wow... |
krabigirl |
Oct-22-10 07:32 PM |
#81 |
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No kidding. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-23-10 09:42 AM |
#114 |
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Have round heels much? |
texastoast |
Oct-22-10 09:46 PM |
#87 |
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Or try to get the silly rules changed. |
Prometheus Bound |
Oct-23-10 08:31 AM |
#106 |
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The "rules" are idiotic |
skepticscott |
Oct-23-10 10:40 AM |
#126 |
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Bingo! |
FormerOstrich |
Oct-24-10 11:24 PM |
#161 |
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Or take a measured stand for freedom and liberty. |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 12:52 PM |
#131 |
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Many waiting in line to take his job. He knew the rules when |
laureloak |
Oct-22-10 11:14 AM |
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Innocent people have plenty to hide. |
L.Torsalo |
Oct-22-10 11:28 AM |
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the answer to your question is undoubtedly... |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 11:31 AM |
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Tragically true! |
clixtox |
Oct-23-10 03:10 AM |
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And it's being indoctrinated in them early that they must comply |
BuelahWitch |
Oct-23-10 06:05 AM |
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So we should all have the privacy to carry guns? After all if it is illegal to look |
stray cat |
Oct-22-10 11:37 AM |
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straw man arguments are disruptive... |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 12:11 PM |
#34 |
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Why not? |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 12:56 PM |
#132 |
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I see we have a couple of RW talking point spewers on this thread... |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 11:30 AM |
#11 |
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Do I have a civil right to carry guns and explosives onto a plane if I don't intend to use them? |
stray cat |
Oct-22-10 11:39 AM |
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Full body scanners are not effective, and are an invasion of privacy rights. |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-22-10 11:46 AM |
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you have a civil right to use your fucking brain.. |
frylock |
Oct-22-10 11:50 AM |
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+1... The idiocy being displayed by a couple on this thread is just staggering. |
Iowa |
Oct-22-10 03:12 PM |
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I'm Going To Have To... |
Winston Wolf |
Oct-23-10 02:24 AM |
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Metal detectors in place for years... as well as as x-ray & inspection. |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 12:09 PM |
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Why are those methods not an invasion of privacy? |
Ginto |
Oct-22-10 01:34 PM |
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Your baggage is the one x-rayed. |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 03:55 PM |
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How do you think metal detectors work? What about the wands they pass close to your body? nt |
Ginto |
Oct-22-10 04:04 PM |
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Low-frequency electormagnetic fields |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 04:19 PM |
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Some call it electromagnetic radiation. nt |
Ginto |
Oct-22-10 04:20 PM |
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X-rays are ionizing radiation... quite different |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 04:30 PM |
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I still don't want any unnecessary amount near my body. |
Ginto |
Oct-22-10 04:50 PM |
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If you are worried about EMF radiation, better toss the cell phone, |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 04:53 PM |
#75 |
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Also, better not fly altogether. |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 01:00 PM |
#134 |
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And turn off the alternating current in your house |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:32 PM |
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What amused me (in a dark kind of way) was a report I heard on the body scanners |
dflprincess |
Oct-22-10 09:45 PM |
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A bigger straw man is still a straw man. |
Ikonoklast |
Oct-23-10 09:38 AM |
#113 |
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Why not? |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 12:58 PM |
#133 |
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this one here embraces every right-wing authoritarian talking point out there.. |
frylock |
Oct-22-10 11:50 AM |
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+10000000 |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-22-10 12:02 PM |
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+1 |
readmoreoften |
Oct-23-10 04:27 AM |
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Now THAT I object to. We have got to be able to withstand |
pokercat999 |
Oct-23-10 11:00 AM |
#128 |
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I thought the RW opposed these x-ray search laws |
Ter |
Oct-22-10 02:03 PM |
#54 |
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Libertarians do... The Freeper types are gungho on the "SCARY" |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 03:53 PM |
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What are YOU trying to hide? |
KansDem |
Oct-22-10 11:50 AM |
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Yes I have a problem. He can follow the rules or find another |
laureloak |
Oct-22-10 12:23 PM |
#36 |
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Yeah? |
KansDem |
Oct-22-10 12:35 PM |
#38 |
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Rules change. And the employer makes the rules. |
laureloak |
Oct-22-10 01:36 PM |
#49 |
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All about "rules" and not about "rights." |
KansDem |
Oct-22-10 01:52 PM |
#51 |
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Baaaaa Baaaaaa |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-23-10 08:43 AM |
#108 |
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Everyone line up here. You will be transported to a relocation camp. |
Downwinder |
Oct-23-10 08:48 AM |
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and you're a fucking sheep |
RetroLounge |
Oct-23-10 10:33 AM |
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it's not the employer that's "making the rules" in this case. |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-23-10 11:33 AM |
#130 |
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Actually, isn't it the government changing the rules? |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 01:02 PM |
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How did this anti-labor, anti-civil-liberties, authoritarian-loving poster reach 1000 posts? |
Iowa |
Oct-22-10 03:19 PM |
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You can go to the Lounge and build post count pretty quickly |
BuelahWitch |
Oct-23-10 06:10 AM |
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And we wonder how easy it is for fascists to take over a Democracy. |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-23-10 08:44 AM |
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Another weak, soft, jellyfish fellates the Police State and tells us how it's so good and we should |
TheWatcher |
Oct-22-10 06:27 PM |
#78 |
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Let's hear a rousing chorus of "God Save The Queen"!!! |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-23-10 10:13 AM |
#117 |
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Good question: "When did we become such a cowardly nation" |
Bragi |
Oct-25-10 10:30 AM |
#164 |
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Ugh |
snort |
Oct-23-10 09:14 AM |
#111 |
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Spoken like a true tool of the capitalist mentality |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:34 PM |
#155 |
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How do you know he knew the rules? |
Ter |
Oct-22-10 02:02 PM |
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He Doesn't Need |
RobinA |
Oct-22-10 03:11 PM |
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Snacking on lead paint chips again? He's the pilot, for crying out loud. |
Frank Cannon |
Oct-23-10 06:13 AM |
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We don't feed trolls here |
JackInGreen |
Oct-23-10 09:55 AM |
#116 |
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Why aren't more people objecting? |
Gormy Cuss |
Oct-22-10 11:31 AM |
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because 911 exposed a whole lot of cowardice within our society |
frylock |
Oct-22-10 11:52 AM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-23-10 09:50 AM |
#115 |
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We've become a nation of cowardly jelly fish interested only in false comfort and safety. |
TheWatcher |
Oct-22-10 06:32 PM |
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Why do they even bother searching pilots? |
SkyDaddy7 |
Oct-22-10 11:37 AM |
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Are gun detectors at abortion clinics or schools or court houses unconstitutional |
stray cat |
Oct-22-10 11:40 AM |
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pilots can carry guns...and on commercial planes |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-22-10 11:42 AM |
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Full body scanners aren't there, are they? |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-22-10 11:44 AM |
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can gun detectors take pictures of your junk? |
frylock |
Oct-22-10 11:53 AM |
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The pictures are not the issue. The effects of radiation on your body is. nt |
Ginto |
Oct-22-10 01:35 PM |
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He is NOT refusing to be screened--metal detectors would |
tblue37 |
Oct-22-10 01:04 PM |
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We're not talking about metal detectors. |
Heywood J |
Oct-22-10 07:42 PM |
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No |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:38 PM |
#156 |
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Glad he stood up for his rights and ours |
harvey007 |
Oct-22-10 11:41 AM |
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i make them pat me down every time i am presented with a scanner |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-22-10 11:41 AM |
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I think I am going to use foil and glue stuck to spell out |
The Green Manalishi |
Oct-22-10 12:00 PM |
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You just gave me an idea! |
KansDem |
Oct-22-10 12:09 PM |
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K&R |
laconicsax |
Oct-22-10 11:43 AM |
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If, when I took my USNR commission |
Turbineguy |
Oct-22-10 12:19 PM |
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""It's not dispensable for the sake of security, just to make us feel better or that something's |
hedgehog |
Oct-22-10 12:26 PM |
#37 |
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There is no evidence that subjecting many passengers to full body scans is any more effective than |
Gormy Cuss |
Oct-22-10 01:53 PM |
#52 |
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Snap |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-22-10 02:20 PM |
#56 |
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The reason we have body scanners |
thesquanderer |
Oct-23-10 09:16 AM |
#112 |
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Absolutely right. n/t |
Gormy Cuss |
Oct-23-10 05:43 PM |
#145 |
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You Can't |
RobinA |
Oct-22-10 03:24 PM |
#65 |
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All luggage screened for bombs. |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 01:07 PM |
#136 |
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Well, if they're naked, are they just gonna sit there holding the weapon and magazines? |
boppers |
Oct-23-10 09:43 PM |
#148 |
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I though belt & holster would be self-evident. Mea Culpa. n/t |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 11:02 PM |
#149 |
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Well, you were kind of pushing the boundaries. |
boppers |
Oct-23-10 11:15 PM |
#150 |
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I stand by my statements. 8>) n/t |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 11:20 PM |
#151 |
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If you're serious |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:41 PM |
#157 |
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Why? Evidence, please.... |
PavePusher |
Oct-24-10 03:09 PM |
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K&R!!!!! |
im1013 |
Oct-22-10 01:01 PM |
#39 |
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Full Body scanners would NOT have prevented 9/11. |
SoapBox |
Oct-22-10 01:02 PM |
#40 |
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It's the Kettles and Gomers who call for security theatre. |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-23-10 01:33 PM |
#141 |
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In a way I don't blame him |
Haole Girl |
Oct-22-10 01:14 PM |
#42 |
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It's the number one reason this girl is not going anywhere on a plane. eom |
bluesmail |
Oct-22-10 01:28 PM |
#44 |
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No more flying for me. This is madness. nt |
eilen |
Oct-22-10 05:18 PM |
#76 |
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Good for him |
derby378 |
Oct-22-10 03:16 PM |
#62 |
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I can't fly anymore.If the goverment got an eyeful of my kielbasa they'd be stalking me everywhere. |
Yeahyeah |
Oct-22-10 06:33 PM |
#80 |
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Insert Ben Franklin's "Security/Liberty" quote here---> |
AzDar |
Oct-22-10 09:47 PM |
#88 |
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"except upon probable cause, supported by oath ..." |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-22-10 10:01 PM |
#89 |
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Read the 4th and supporting opinions again... |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:44 PM |
#158 |
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He didn't think he'd be subjected to security measures as a pilot? |
lynne |
Oct-23-10 01:04 AM |
#90 |
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Definitely... |
Winston Wolf |
Oct-23-10 02:46 AM |
#93 |
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What are you going to do when they start checking for tiny brains? |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-23-10 10:36 AM |
#123 |
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He's the fucking PILOT! |
RetroLounge |
Oct-23-10 10:37 AM |
#124 |
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Miss the point much? |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 01:09 PM |
#137 |
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A Pilot For Four Years... |
Winston Wolf |
Oct-23-10 02:40 AM |
#92 |
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Accolades for Mr. Roberts |
ixion |
Oct-23-10 05:42 AM |
#96 |
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He might want to become a bus driver, then. If he wants to fly, he has to |
activa8tr |
Oct-23-10 06:16 AM |
#101 |
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He is trying to get the rules changed. |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 01:11 PM |
#138 |
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The rules are insane |
high density |
Oct-24-10 02:08 PM |
#159 |
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You display real courage |
Bragi |
Oct-25-10 10:22 AM |
#163 |
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"Sorry folks. There will be a slight delay in departure. |
Downwinder |
Oct-23-10 06:43 AM |
#102 |
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All well and good isn't it? |
Life Long Dem |
Oct-23-10 08:17 AM |
#103 |
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The majority of Americans want strangers inspecting their genitalia before being allowed to travel.. |
scentopine |
Oct-23-10 10:26 AM |
#119 |
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Thank you, Mr. Roberts |
JDPriestly |
Oct-23-10 10:31 AM |
#121 |
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Be Afraid, Be very afraid |
makemyday |
Oct-23-10 04:22 PM |
#142 |
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Pretending to be happy at pat-down time irritates me |
Bragi |
Oct-25-10 09:17 AM |
#162 |
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