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Fri Oct-22-10 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
| 61. +1... The idiocy being displayed by a couple on this thread is just staggering. |
| -Pilot Refuses Full Body Scan, Says He's Fighting for Rights |
sabra |
Oct-22-10 10:52 AM |
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Did they check for the Axe that's in his cockpit? |
zipplewrath |
Oct-22-10 10:58 AM |
#1 |
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That is one hell of a good point |
Boudica the Lyoness |
Oct-22-10 11:22 AM |
#8 |
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Axe Shmaxe, they want to find box cutters! |
Javaman |
Oct-22-10 01:27 PM |
#43 |
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and shampoo |
FiveGoodMen |
Oct-22-10 04:29 PM |
#72 |
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Yes! we must not forget the shampoo of death. |
Javaman |
Oct-23-10 08:28 AM |
#105 |
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Make sure they don't have |
madokie |
Oct-22-10 02:08 PM |
#55 |
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Excellent point |
dflprincess |
Oct-22-10 09:41 PM |
#84 |
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He doesn't need an axe |
Hawkowl |
Oct-24-10 01:14 AM |
#152 |
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Good for him! |
Jim__ |
Oct-22-10 10:59 AM |
#2 |
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My Thoughts........ |
rsmith6621 |
Oct-22-10 11:00 AM |
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Better yet, don't fly. Take a train if possible or drive. nt |
pokercat999 |
Oct-23-10 10:49 AM |
#127 |
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Michael Roberts; |
greiner3 |
Oct-22-10 11:06 AM |
#4 |
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Full body scanning is ridiculous overkill |
felix_numinous |
Oct-22-10 11:12 AM |
#5 |
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if he doesn't like the rules |
davidinalameda |
Oct-22-10 11:13 AM |
#6 |
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I assume you see |
L.Torsalo |
Oct-22-10 11:27 AM |
#9 |
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Just a minute. |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-22-10 11:31 AM |
#12 |
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actually it is a good thing to do |
davidinalameda |
Oct-22-10 01:47 PM |
#50 |
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Oct-22-10 02:39 PM |
#57 |
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Oct-22-10 03:10 PM |
#59 |
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ah, yes, increased security would be great. |
uncle ray |
Oct-22-10 03:20 PM |
#64 |
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Oct-22-10 03:58 PM |
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Oct-22-10 05:35 PM |
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such a considered opinion. catching all the subtleties of the issue. nt |
tomp |
Oct-22-10 09:42 PM |
#85 |
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Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither. |
ixion |
Oct-23-10 05:46 AM |
#97 |
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It works! |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-23-10 08:36 AM |
#107 |
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I'm sorry but you're wrong. |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-23-10 10:38 AM |
#125 |
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Sacrificing a little liberty for a little security, gets you neither. |
Javaman |
Oct-22-10 01:29 PM |
#45 |
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It's Not Even That |
RobinA |
Oct-22-10 03:09 PM |
#58 |
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And there you have the answer. |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-23-10 11:28 AM |
#129 |
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he doesn't have the right to pick and chose which rules he follows |
davidinalameda |
Oct-22-10 09:34 PM |
#83 |
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Like I said, reread the 4th amendment. nt |
Javaman |
Oct-23-10 08:26 AM |
#104 |
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the point that people are missing |
davidinalameda |
Oct-23-10 01:23 PM |
#140 |
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I guess you don't have your own copy of the 4th Amendment, here you go... |
Javaman |
Oct-23-10 09:14 PM |
#147 |
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Ashcroft? Is that you? |
20score |
Oct-23-10 10:13 AM |
#118 |
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+1,000 |
suede1 |
Oct-23-10 04:30 PM |
#143 |
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Duplicate. Oops. |
suede1 |
Oct-23-10 04:30 PM |
#144 |
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"sounds more like a spoiled child than some sort of civil rights protester" |
RetroLounge |
Oct-23-10 10:29 AM |
#120 |
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personal attacks are so unattractive |
davidinalameda |
Oct-23-10 01:11 PM |
#139 |
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There's that mirror again. |
RetroLounge |
Oct-23-10 09:11 PM |
#146 |
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The 4th AMENDMENT SAYS he shouldn't have to follow that rule |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:27 PM |
#153 |
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"I like being a doe-eyed go-along. If you don't have anything to hide nothing hwy worrry about it?" |
TheWatcher |
Oct-22-10 01:35 PM |
#47 |
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wow... |
krabigirl |
Oct-22-10 07:32 PM |
#81 |
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No kidding. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-23-10 09:42 AM |
#114 |
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Have round heels much? |
texastoast |
Oct-22-10 09:46 PM |
#87 |
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Or try to get the silly rules changed. |
Prometheus Bound |
Oct-23-10 08:31 AM |
#106 |
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The "rules" are idiotic |
skepticscott |
Oct-23-10 10:40 AM |
#126 |
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Bingo! |
FormerOstrich |
Oct-24-10 11:24 PM |
#161 |
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Or take a measured stand for freedom and liberty. |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 12:52 PM |
#131 |
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Many waiting in line to take his job. He knew the rules when |
laureloak |
Oct-22-10 11:14 AM |
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Innocent people have plenty to hide. |
L.Torsalo |
Oct-22-10 11:28 AM |
#10 |
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the answer to your question is undoubtedly... |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 11:31 AM |
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Tragically true! |
clixtox |
Oct-23-10 03:10 AM |
#94 |
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And it's being indoctrinated in them early that they must comply |
BuelahWitch |
Oct-23-10 06:05 AM |
#98 |
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So we should all have the privacy to carry guns? After all if it is illegal to look |
stray cat |
Oct-22-10 11:37 AM |
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straw man arguments are disruptive... |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 12:11 PM |
#34 |
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Why not? |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 12:56 PM |
#132 |
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I see we have a couple of RW talking point spewers on this thread... |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 11:30 AM |
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Do I have a civil right to carry guns and explosives onto a plane if I don't intend to use them? |
stray cat |
Oct-22-10 11:39 AM |
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Full body scanners are not effective, and are an invasion of privacy rights. |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-22-10 11:46 AM |
#24 |
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you have a civil right to use your fucking brain.. |
frylock |
Oct-22-10 11:50 AM |
#27 |
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+1... The idiocy being displayed by a couple on this thread is just staggering. |
Iowa |
Oct-22-10 03:12 PM |
#61 |
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I'm Going To Have To... |
Winston Wolf |
Oct-23-10 02:24 AM |
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Metal detectors in place for years... as well as as x-ray & inspection. |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 12:09 PM |
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Why are those methods not an invasion of privacy? |
Ginto |
Oct-22-10 01:34 PM |
#46 |
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Your baggage is the one x-rayed. |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 03:55 PM |
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How do you think metal detectors work? What about the wands they pass close to your body? nt |
Ginto |
Oct-22-10 04:04 PM |
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Low-frequency electormagnetic fields |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 04:19 PM |
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Some call it electromagnetic radiation. nt |
Ginto |
Oct-22-10 04:20 PM |
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X-rays are ionizing radiation... quite different |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 04:30 PM |
#73 |
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I still don't want any unnecessary amount near my body. |
Ginto |
Oct-22-10 04:50 PM |
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If you are worried about EMF radiation, better toss the cell phone, |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 04:53 PM |
#75 |
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Also, better not fly altogether. |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 01:00 PM |
#134 |
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And turn off the alternating current in your house |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:32 PM |
#154 |
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What amused me (in a dark kind of way) was a report I heard on the body scanners |
dflprincess |
Oct-22-10 09:45 PM |
#86 |
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A bigger straw man is still a straw man. |
Ikonoklast |
Oct-23-10 09:38 AM |
#113 |
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Why not? |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 12:58 PM |
#133 |
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this one here embraces every right-wing authoritarian talking point out there.. |
frylock |
Oct-22-10 11:50 AM |
#25 |
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+10000000 |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-22-10 12:02 PM |
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+1 |
readmoreoften |
Oct-23-10 04:27 AM |
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Now THAT I object to. We have got to be able to withstand |
pokercat999 |
Oct-23-10 11:00 AM |
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I thought the RW opposed these x-ray search laws |
Ter |
Oct-22-10 02:03 PM |
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Libertarians do... The Freeper types are gungho on the "SCARY" |
hlthe2b |
Oct-22-10 03:53 PM |
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What are YOU trying to hide? |
KansDem |
Oct-22-10 11:50 AM |
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Yes I have a problem. He can follow the rules or find another |
laureloak |
Oct-22-10 12:23 PM |
#36 |
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Yeah? |
KansDem |
Oct-22-10 12:35 PM |
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Rules change. And the employer makes the rules. |
laureloak |
Oct-22-10 01:36 PM |
#49 |
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All about "rules" and not about "rights." |
KansDem |
Oct-22-10 01:52 PM |
#51 |
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Baaaaa Baaaaaa |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-23-10 08:43 AM |
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Everyone line up here. You will be transported to a relocation camp. |
Downwinder |
Oct-23-10 08:48 AM |
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and you're a fucking sheep |
RetroLounge |
Oct-23-10 10:33 AM |
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it's not the employer that's "making the rules" in this case. |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-23-10 11:33 AM |
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Actually, isn't it the government changing the rules? |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 01:02 PM |
#135 |
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How did this anti-labor, anti-civil-liberties, authoritarian-loving poster reach 1000 posts? |
Iowa |
Oct-22-10 03:19 PM |
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You can go to the Lounge and build post count pretty quickly |
BuelahWitch |
Oct-23-10 06:10 AM |
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And we wonder how easy it is for fascists to take over a Democracy. |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-23-10 08:44 AM |
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Another weak, soft, jellyfish fellates the Police State and tells us how it's so good and we should |
TheWatcher |
Oct-22-10 06:27 PM |
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Let's hear a rousing chorus of "God Save The Queen"!!! |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-23-10 10:13 AM |
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Good question: "When did we become such a cowardly nation" |
Bragi |
Oct-25-10 10:30 AM |
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Ugh |
snort |
Oct-23-10 09:14 AM |
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Spoken like a true tool of the capitalist mentality |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:34 PM |
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How do you know he knew the rules? |
Ter |
Oct-22-10 02:02 PM |
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He Doesn't Need |
RobinA |
Oct-22-10 03:11 PM |
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Snacking on lead paint chips again? He's the pilot, for crying out loud. |
Frank Cannon |
Oct-23-10 06:13 AM |
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We don't feed trolls here |
JackInGreen |
Oct-23-10 09:55 AM |
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Why aren't more people objecting? |
Gormy Cuss |
Oct-22-10 11:31 AM |
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because 911 exposed a whole lot of cowardice within our society |
frylock |
Oct-22-10 11:52 AM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-23-10 09:50 AM |
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We've become a nation of cowardly jelly fish interested only in false comfort and safety. |
TheWatcher |
Oct-22-10 06:32 PM |
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Why do they even bother searching pilots? |
SkyDaddy7 |
Oct-22-10 11:37 AM |
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Are gun detectors at abortion clinics or schools or court houses unconstitutional |
stray cat |
Oct-22-10 11:40 AM |
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pilots can carry guns...and on commercial planes |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-22-10 11:42 AM |
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Full body scanners aren't there, are they? |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-22-10 11:44 AM |
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can gun detectors take pictures of your junk? |
frylock |
Oct-22-10 11:53 AM |
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The pictures are not the issue. The effects of radiation on your body is. nt |
Ginto |
Oct-22-10 01:35 PM |
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He is NOT refusing to be screened--metal detectors would |
tblue37 |
Oct-22-10 01:04 PM |
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We're not talking about metal detectors. |
Heywood J |
Oct-22-10 07:42 PM |
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No |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:38 PM |
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Glad he stood up for his rights and ours |
harvey007 |
Oct-22-10 11:41 AM |
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i make them pat me down every time i am presented with a scanner |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Oct-22-10 11:41 AM |
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I think I am going to use foil and glue stuck to spell out |
The Green Manalishi |
Oct-22-10 12:00 PM |
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You just gave me an idea! |
KansDem |
Oct-22-10 12:09 PM |
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K&R |
laconicsax |
Oct-22-10 11:43 AM |
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If, when I took my USNR commission |
Turbineguy |
Oct-22-10 12:19 PM |
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""It's not dispensable for the sake of security, just to make us feel better or that something's |
hedgehog |
Oct-22-10 12:26 PM |
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There is no evidence that subjecting many passengers to full body scans is any more effective than |
Gormy Cuss |
Oct-22-10 01:53 PM |
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Snap |
avaistheone1 |
Oct-22-10 02:20 PM |
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The reason we have body scanners |
thesquanderer |
Oct-23-10 09:16 AM |
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Absolutely right. n/t |
Gormy Cuss |
Oct-23-10 05:43 PM |
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You Can't |
RobinA |
Oct-22-10 03:24 PM |
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All luggage screened for bombs. |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 01:07 PM |
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Well, if they're naked, are they just gonna sit there holding the weapon and magazines? |
boppers |
Oct-23-10 09:43 PM |
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I though belt & holster would be self-evident. Mea Culpa. n/t |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 11:02 PM |
#149 |
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Well, you were kind of pushing the boundaries. |
boppers |
Oct-23-10 11:15 PM |
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I stand by my statements. 8>) n/t |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 11:20 PM |
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If you're serious |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:41 PM |
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Why? Evidence, please.... |
PavePusher |
Oct-24-10 03:09 PM |
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K&R!!!!! |
im1013 |
Oct-22-10 01:01 PM |
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Full Body scanners would NOT have prevented 9/11. |
SoapBox |
Oct-22-10 01:02 PM |
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It's the Kettles and Gomers who call for security theatre. |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-23-10 01:33 PM |
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In a way I don't blame him |
Haole Girl |
Oct-22-10 01:14 PM |
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It's the number one reason this girl is not going anywhere on a plane. eom |
bluesmail |
Oct-22-10 01:28 PM |
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No more flying for me. This is madness. nt |
eilen |
Oct-22-10 05:18 PM |
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Good for him |
derby378 |
Oct-22-10 03:16 PM |
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I can't fly anymore.If the goverment got an eyeful of my kielbasa they'd be stalking me everywhere. |
Yeahyeah |
Oct-22-10 06:33 PM |
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Insert Ben Franklin's "Security/Liberty" quote here---> |
AzDar |
Oct-22-10 09:47 PM |
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"except upon probable cause, supported by oath ..." |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-22-10 10:01 PM |
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Read the 4th and supporting opinions again... |
ProudDad |
Oct-24-10 01:44 PM |
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He didn't think he'd be subjected to security measures as a pilot? |
lynne |
Oct-23-10 01:04 AM |
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Definitely... |
Winston Wolf |
Oct-23-10 02:46 AM |
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What are you going to do when they start checking for tiny brains? |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-23-10 10:36 AM |
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He's the fucking PILOT! |
RetroLounge |
Oct-23-10 10:37 AM |
#124 |
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Miss the point much? |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 01:09 PM |
#137 |
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A Pilot For Four Years... |
Winston Wolf |
Oct-23-10 02:40 AM |
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Accolades for Mr. Roberts |
ixion |
Oct-23-10 05:42 AM |
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He might want to become a bus driver, then. If he wants to fly, he has to |
activa8tr |
Oct-23-10 06:16 AM |
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He is trying to get the rules changed. |
PavePusher |
Oct-23-10 01:11 PM |
#138 |
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The rules are insane |
high density |
Oct-24-10 02:08 PM |
#159 |
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You display real courage |
Bragi |
Oct-25-10 10:22 AM |
#163 |
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"Sorry folks. There will be a slight delay in departure. |
Downwinder |
Oct-23-10 06:43 AM |
#102 |
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All well and good isn't it? |
Life Long Dem |
Oct-23-10 08:17 AM |
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The majority of Americans want strangers inspecting their genitalia before being allowed to travel.. |
scentopine |
Oct-23-10 10:26 AM |
#119 |
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Thank you, Mr. Roberts |
JDPriestly |
Oct-23-10 10:31 AM |
#121 |
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Be Afraid, Be very afraid |
makemyday |
Oct-23-10 04:22 PM |
#142 |
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Pretending to be happy at pat-down time irritates me |
Bragi |
Oct-25-10 09:17 AM |
#162 |