Oggy
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Thu Apr-01-04 09:34 AM
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| 12. Not sure about awareness |
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If you mean Self-Awareness then, my daughter who is 5 months old, and she has only really shown awareness from about 3 months. Before that she was an eating sleeping pooing crying machine. We were told at our anti-natal clinic that in the first few months they still think they are part of the mother.
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| -Judge Asks Doctor if Fetus Can Feel Pain |
Finnfan |
Apr-01-04 08:59 AM |
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It is a legitimate question |
eyesroll |
Apr-01-04 09:05 AM |
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obviousLy |
sniffa |
Apr-01-04 09:08 AM |
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this is getting at the root |
e j e |
Apr-01-04 09:14 AM |
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This is just a question...if a soul inhabits an embryo at |
sinkingfeeling |
Apr-01-04 09:30 AM |
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It is not a question of "soul". What if you don't believe in "souls"? |
demdave |
Apr-01-04 09:41 AM |
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Not sure about awareness |
Oggy |
Apr-01-04 09:34 AM |
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Hmmmm.....my babies seemed very 'conscious' when they were |
DemEx_pat |
Apr-01-04 09:39 AM |
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Well I am a Dad |
Oggy |
Apr-01-04 10:03 AM |
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this is my point |
e j e |
Apr-01-04 11:53 AM |
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From demdave's article: |
ultramega |
Apr-01-04 09:42 AM |
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At what point does the nervous system develop? |
LiberalFighter |
Apr-01-04 08:47 PM |
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Well |
VelmaD |
Apr-01-04 05:27 PM |
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Plant cells "scream" before being cut - proved on Johnie Carson yrs ago |
papau |
Apr-01-04 09:45 AM |
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Do you think you'll get an answer? n/t |
kitkatrose |
Apr-01-04 11:20 AM |
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No, judges cannot question based on heresay, |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-01-04 10:01 AM |
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Read the Rest of His Questions |
GiovanniC |
Apr-01-04 10:50 AM |
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Something tells me there'll be some research funds freed up for this |
PurityOfEssence |
Apr-01-04 09:12 AM |
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Fetal “Pain” — A Look at the Evidence |
demdave |
Apr-01-04 09:18 AM |
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I don't remember a sigle thing that happened to me before, or |
Finnfan |
Apr-01-04 09:26 AM |
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Hypnosis possibly can bring these memories up out of the realm |
DemEx_pat |
Apr-01-04 09:33 AM |
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I agree |
JCCyC |
Apr-01-04 11:01 AM |
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I was just presenting info, even the article is inconclusive. |
demdave |
Apr-01-04 09:36 AM |
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No, I'm not arguing that post-birth abortion is OK. |
Finnfan |
Apr-01-04 10:09 AM |
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We swab a condemned man's arm before a lethal injection. |
demdave |
Apr-01-04 10:20 AM |
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Most don't remember babyhood either; so what's your argument? |
lostnfound |
Apr-01-04 10:10 AM |
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Kind of a boondoggle |
ultramega |
Apr-01-04 09:25 AM |
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There is a large gap between |
WhereIsMyFreedom |
Apr-01-04 02:00 PM |
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I really don't think many women would undergo this procedure, unless their |
noonwitch |
Apr-01-04 09:20 AM |
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Fayetteville Ar Women's Clinic to suspend May 14 |
jmcgowanjm |
Apr-01-04 09:49 AM |
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So is anesthesia the solution to the moral dilemmas of abortion? |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-01-04 09:27 AM |
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No. |
ultramega |
Apr-01-04 09:50 AM |
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What an uninformed position, let me help you on that...... |
demdave |
Apr-01-04 09:58 AM |
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Sorry if I offended you. |
ultramega |
Apr-01-04 10:15 AM |
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A person you love is being tortured in Hell? |
JCCyC |
Apr-01-04 11:05 AM |
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A Religious Friend of Mine |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 11:25 AM |
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I Can't Speak for The Religious Right |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 10:11 AM |
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My mother and father are both like this. |
ultramega |
Apr-01-04 10:24 AM |
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And that's the main problem I have with |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-01-04 11:26 AM |
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It Goes Both Ways |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 11:36 AM |
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This thead seems to disprove your theory. |
TheStranger |
Apr-01-04 12:02 PM |
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I'm Afraid |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 12:18 PM |
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Your prior post. |
TheStranger |
Apr-01-04 01:23 PM |
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I believe the operative word was "some". |
demdave |
Apr-01-04 01:26 PM |
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My Only Point Was This |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 01:47 PM |
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There is some truth to what you say, but I would |
FlaGranny |
Apr-01-04 02:14 PM |
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Yes, What You Say is Certainly True |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 03:47 PM |
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No, but 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you' |
lostnfound |
Apr-01-04 10:16 AM |
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Just Curious |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 10:24 AM |
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Not sure. Would I want to be born.. |
lostnfound |
Apr-01-04 12:44 PM |
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I Want To Be Gentle |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 01:19 PM |
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I totally agree. I'm NOT saying that such people shouldn't have been born. |
lostnfound |
Apr-01-04 04:42 PM |
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A child of rape? This life is not worth living? How insightful. |
demdave |
Apr-01-04 01:48 PM |
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You misunderstood me COMPLETELY. |
lostnfound |
Apr-01-04 03:51 PM |
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Please Help Me To Understand |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 04:00 PM |
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Some women can rise above difficult circumstances.... |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-01-04 04:17 PM |
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I'm Sure It Is Sad....But |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 04:22 PM |
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I've never had a child--wanted or not--so I've never said it |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-01-04 05:31 PM |
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No, NEVER. None of the above. |
lostnfound |
Apr-01-04 06:49 PM |
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"A harm to an argument" |
ultramega |
Apr-01-04 10:35 AM |
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To me, it isn't an issue of fetal viability |
Sandpiper |
Apr-01-04 02:53 PM |
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You make good sense |
shadu |
Apr-01-04 11:24 AM |
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Not that this is an answer to the abortion question, but |
FlaGranny |
Apr-01-04 11:13 AM |
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A chicken can feel pain |
AlienGirl |
Apr-01-04 01:37 PM |
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When does the brain develop? No brain, no pain . . . |
mistertrickster |
Apr-01-04 02:08 PM |
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True. |
GOPBasher |
Apr-01-04 03:27 PM |
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When Does The Brain "Start" to Develop? |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 03:49 PM |
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thats such a bogus argument. |
pacifictiger |
Apr-01-04 02:33 PM |
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Why has no one commented on the judge's biased attitude? |
Shakespeare |
Apr-01-04 04:09 PM |
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Maybe the judge should ask the fetus. EOM |
Marianne |
Apr-01-04 04:12 PM |
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You Can't Be Serious |
outinforce |
Apr-01-04 04:19 PM |
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That she isn't serious is, I believe, the point. |
Shakespeare |
Apr-01-04 04:21 PM |
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