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Fri Oct-08-10 05:04 PM
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| 109. I would have stuck it on a train box car. |
| -Caught Spying On Student, FBI Demands GPS Tracker Back |
SecularMotion |
Oct-08-10 12:05 PM |
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What about finders keepers, losers weepers? |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-08-10 12:09 PM |
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Hey, you bring up a great point and some good questions: |
Poll_Blind |
Oct-08-10 12:23 PM |
#8 |
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More disturbing...was this warrantless spying on a U.S. Citizen....? |
Evasporque |
Oct-08-10 12:32 PM |
#13 |
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According to the article, a 9th Circuit appeals court said |
EFerrari |
Oct-08-10 12:35 PM |
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Yes to plant a device....but maybe there were wiretaps in addition... |
Evasporque |
Oct-08-10 12:42 PM |
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Oh, I see. Yeah, and intercepts on his mail. |
EFerrari |
Oct-08-10 12:57 PM |
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That is what happened to gov blago |
molly77 |
Oct-08-10 02:22 PM |
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I didn't know the taps were illegal. n/t |
EFerrari |
Oct-08-10 03:18 PM |
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The real danger |
Enthusiast |
Oct-09-10 06:11 AM |
#156 |
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My household phone was wiretapped back in the nineties. |
truedelphi |
Oct-08-10 02:15 PM |
#64 |
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you sound pretty dangerous...asking questions |
Swagman |
Oct-08-10 07:42 PM |
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I heard tapping and clicking noise in the 90s, too. |
pinniped |
Oct-08-10 10:46 PM |
#146 |
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My buddy found a bug after their house was raided back in the 90's |
Roon |
Oct-09-10 01:05 AM |
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Same here as well as one time I heard men's voices in the background. |
glinda |
Oct-09-10 09:40 AM |
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Happened To Me Too! |
cynzke |
Oct-09-10 10:46 AM |
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Did it sound like older gruff gravelly sounding men? All I could hear was a sentence that sounded |
glinda |
Oct-09-10 05:12 PM |
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I used to hear voices all the time, too. Tinfoil took care of that. |
AngryAmish |
Oct-09-10 02:14 PM |
#165 |
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thank you Patriot Act |
lovuian |
Oct-08-10 09:29 PM |
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Yes it was - and it's legal. The GPS tracks locations and does not |
24601 |
Oct-08-10 10:17 PM |
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I agree with #6 |
Just One Woman |
Oct-08-10 12:36 PM |
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Do not remove this tag under penalty of law. n/t |
Downwinder |
Oct-08-10 12:40 PM |
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That was my first thought! |
thanks_imjustlurking |
Oct-08-10 11:06 PM |
#148 |
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Yes, anyone could plant a tracker in your car. |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-08-10 12:43 PM |
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Such a tag would inject some humor into being spied upon. |
OrwellwasRight |
Oct-09-10 02:04 AM |
#152 |
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I'd place it on a freight train... |
sfwriter |
Oct-08-10 01:32 PM |
#49 |
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I'm thinking stray cat. n |
Incitatus |
Oct-08-10 09:25 PM |
#138 |
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I was going to say... |
CoffeeCat |
Oct-09-10 01:21 AM |
#151 |
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What if they plant it, the owner finds it, and it 'accidentally' gets put on a long haul truck? |
Vincardog |
Oct-08-10 03:20 PM |
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Better still, what if it were to somehow find itself stuck to an FBI car? |
1monster |
Oct-08-10 05:58 PM |
#114 |
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Or how about if it found itself stuck to Diaper Dan Vitter's car? |
Vincardog |
Oct-08-10 08:03 PM |
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I would have stuck it on a train box car. |
L0oniX |
Oct-08-10 05:04 PM |
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I'd have to agree... |
Shoedogg |
Oct-08-10 05:45 PM |
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city of santa clara planted trees in everbodys yards |
bkozumplik |
Oct-08-10 08:38 PM |
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that would probably fall under "Obstruction of an official investigation" |
Blue_Tires |
Oct-08-10 12:41 PM |
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The mere act of finding it, would obstruct an investigation. |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-08-10 12:47 PM |
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Yes! I think that's sort of what I was thinking but couldn't enunciate. |
Poll_Blind |
Oct-08-10 12:58 PM |
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That's what I love about DU, we can all gain from one another, just by reading the comments in your |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-08-10 01:24 PM |
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Nice! |
rosesaylavee |
Oct-08-10 02:20 PM |
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Hi, rosesaylavee, anytime that I can enrich your day is a good day. |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-08-10 03:09 PM |
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Phantasmagoric is one of those words that benefits from a superfluous "al". |
TheMadMonk |
Oct-08-10 09:42 PM |
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that's like the alumni magazine from my law school. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Oct-09-10 03:31 AM |
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Abandoned property. FBI loses right to possession. |
no_hypocrisy |
Oct-08-10 12:46 PM |
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Not abandoned, it was being actively used. nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-08-10 02:06 PM |
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Negative-option billing? n/t |
Ian David |
Oct-08-10 03:05 PM |
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Had I found that on my car, I would've taken a hammer to it. |
Plucketeer |
Oct-08-10 03:26 PM |
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Cubans are hotheads |
formercia |
Oct-08-10 03:55 PM |
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That only applies when the rightful owner |
ManiacJoe |
Oct-08-10 01:46 PM |
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Cue the weeping. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Oct-08-10 02:16 PM |
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Name removed |
Oct-08-10 02:41 PM |
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I'd put a price tag on it. |
Initech |
Oct-08-10 03:06 PM |
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Yea ...sell it on Ebay. |
L0oniX |
Oct-08-10 05:05 PM |
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The law as to "lost" goods is simple, it belongs to the person who LOST IT, |
happyslug |
Oct-08-10 07:44 PM |
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That was an interesting read- thanks. I realize law-stuff I read on the Internet is... |
Poll_Blind |
Oct-08-10 08:39 PM |
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Oy. Nt |
xchrom |
Oct-08-10 12:12 PM |
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Smash the m*therf*cker and give it back to them in a baggie! (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Oct-08-10 12:14 PM |
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GPS tracker |
wcollar |
Oct-08-10 12:39 PM |
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Cute idea... |
ProudDad |
Oct-08-10 12:50 PM |
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or better yet, thru a package carrier on an international flight lmao. |
iamthebandfanman |
Oct-08-10 04:39 PM |
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Too bad he couldn't had wired the doorway with a way to demagnetized the device |
LiberalFighter |
Oct-08-10 12:15 PM |
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I would have asked them to pay for the trip to Dubai. |
Renew Deal |
Oct-08-10 12:20 PM |
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Never assume you're not being watched |
Hydra |
Oct-08-10 12:22 PM |
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Seems like we're determined to alienate and enrage all Arab or Muslim Americans. |
DirkGently |
Oct-08-10 12:23 PM |
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The guy was stupid |
bherrera |
Oct-08-10 12:24 PM |
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Well to cut him slack he really didn't know WHAT it was and who planted it and why. |
Poll_Blind |
Oct-08-10 12:26 PM |
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wow |
Locrian |
Oct-08-10 01:26 PM |
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LOL, when I was typing that up I was thinking about how that went down. |
Poll_Blind |
Oct-08-10 01:39 PM |
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Rofl! n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Oct-08-10 03:28 PM |
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I haven't been around anyone smoking weed since the '70s, so things may have |
1monster |
Oct-09-10 11:08 AM |
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x |
Incitatus |
Oct-08-10 09:56 PM |
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I kind of like Fed Ex to |
icnorth |
Oct-08-10 12:40 PM |
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or put it on a train..or subway!! eom |
flyarm |
Oct-08-10 12:45 PM |
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Or a boat - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Oct-08-10 01:05 PM |
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Uhh, Agent Mike... |
icnorth |
Oct-08-10 01:26 PM |
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I’d duct tape that shit to a deer. have the FBI chase it through the woods. nt |
NYMdaveNYI |
Oct-08-10 02:47 PM |
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Ok, that just made me bust out laughing! |
emmadoggy |
Oct-08-10 03:06 PM |
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On one of those mechanical ponies that kids ride for a quarter outside of Safeway. n/t |
EFerrari |
Oct-08-10 01:09 PM |
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Nope. Go to a truck stop and plant it under someones trailer. |
Xithras |
Oct-08-10 03:53 PM |
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He should have talked to a lawyer and let him/her talk to the FBI. "Where is your warrant?" |
Lochloosa |
Oct-08-10 12:25 PM |
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That would have worked before Raygun |
texastoast |
Oct-08-10 02:14 PM |
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I wonder how many of us on DU are under FBI or other Fed surveillance, |
old mark |
Oct-08-10 12:31 PM |
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HI MOM! n/t |
James48 |
Oct-08-10 01:18 PM |
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You're only paranoid if it's liable not to happen. |
era veteran |
Oct-08-10 01:32 PM |
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I had an FBI file from '67 or so...I went to a peace march in NYC one Saturday |
old mark |
Oct-08-10 01:41 PM |
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I was at Out Now Mayday April 1971, In front of FBI BLD |
era veteran |
Oct-08-10 02:19 PM |
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I'd bet there is someone that reads this site every day, makes copious notes.... |
old mark |
Oct-08-10 04:03 PM |
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I've had an FBI file on me since the 1980s |
texastoast |
Oct-08-10 02:16 PM |
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I seriously doubt they waste their time on a website. lol |
Dash87 |
Oct-08-10 05:53 PM |
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The FBI generally doesn't do much website scraping. |
boppers |
Oct-08-10 07:40 PM |
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Probably the NSA or similar....nt |
old mark |
Oct-09-10 03:42 AM |
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if only they put that much effort into finding real criminals |
Blue_Tires |
Oct-08-10 12:34 PM |
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Or Prosecuting the White Collar Fraud at the Too Big to Fail Banks |
Demeter |
Oct-09-10 05:15 AM |
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It's such a downer when they tell you "...you're boring." |
hunter |
Oct-08-10 12:37 PM |
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start looking in the books you buy!! I found a computer chip in Jesse Ventura's book I bought! |
flyarm |
Oct-08-10 12:40 PM |
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that was an anti-theft device |
gilpo |
Oct-08-10 01:10 PM |
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no it was not..is was very very tiny..not a door security tag..it is a computer chip! |
flyarm |
Oct-08-10 01:22 PM |
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Sounds like the RFID tag |
RantinRavin |
Oct-08-10 01:19 PM |
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nope that is not what it is. eom |
flyarm |
Oct-08-10 01:23 PM |
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Yes, actually, that was what it is |
X_Digger |
Oct-08-10 01:49 PM |
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"Not too paranoid here......lol.." That's an understatement. |
SomeGuynTexas |
Oct-08-10 01:54 PM |
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The publisher probably put it there as a publicity stunt hoping people would find it. n/t |
Ian David |
Oct-08-10 03:08 PM |
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Are you sure it wasn't an RFID chip? |
Dash87 |
Oct-09-10 06:52 AM |
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K&R |
DeSwiss |
Oct-08-10 12:43 PM |
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Only 6 agents? |
icnorth |
Oct-08-10 12:50 PM |
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Caught Spying on Student, FBI Demands GPS Tracker Back |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Oct-08-10 01:05 PM |
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"State secrets" claim in 3... 2... 1... nt |
OnyxCollie |
Oct-08-10 01:05 PM |
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That device was probably made in China anyways.... |
liberation |
Oct-08-10 04:09 PM |
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The surveillance company is in Canada n/t |
kirby |
Oct-08-10 04:49 PM |
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good on the ACLU..I think I will give another donation today to them!! Thank god for ACLU! eom |
flyarm |
Oct-08-10 01:25 PM |
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ACLU |
Sentath |
Oct-08-10 01:57 PM |
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I bet someone who signed the hand receipt is not happy |
James48 |
Oct-08-10 01:15 PM |
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I would of put it in 3 small ziplock bags |
jsgindc |
Oct-08-10 01:24 PM |
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Love. That. n/t |
texastoast |
Oct-08-10 02:18 PM |
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lol "wtf? Is he on a submarine?" |
Dash87 |
Oct-08-10 05:59 PM |
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Any word on whether there was a warrent for this survellience? nt |
mistertrickster |
Oct-08-10 01:50 PM |
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LOL, warrents are so '90's. nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-08-10 02:09 PM |
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Young, Arab and male. |
No Elephants |
Oct-08-10 02:02 PM |
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A little random profiling? |
texastoast |
Oct-08-10 02:17 PM |
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They need a tag on their tracking devices reading: "If you find this on your car, please drop in |
rhett o rick |
Oct-08-10 02:05 PM |
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Or at least have the decency to tell someone you're putting a secret tracking device on their car. |
Dash87 |
Oct-08-10 05:56 PM |
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He should have taken it and installed on a city bus. |
baldguy |
Oct-08-10 02:06 PM |
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They want the evidence back? |
The Backlash Cometh |
Oct-08-10 02:07 PM |
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He ought to put it on ebay at a foolishly high price and let them buy it back. |
Vinca |
Oct-08-10 02:24 PM |
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ah yea....that would work. |
Xenotime |
Oct-08-10 03:12 PM |
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Actually I was thinking he should have overnight expressed it to a friend in canada |
cstanleytech |
Oct-08-10 03:50 PM |
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What I want to know is why was it so big? |
Ter |
Oct-08-10 02:54 PM |
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The smaller ones probably have shorter range and shorter lifetime. |
Ian David |
Oct-08-10 03:12 PM |
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Then what about the GPS units for your car? |
Ter |
Oct-08-10 03:31 PM |
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The ones you attach to your windshield are only receivers. |
ManiacJoe |
Oct-08-10 04:17 PM |
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Good point. Maybe they require extra time to install? n/t |
Ian David |
Oct-08-10 07:51 PM |
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No kidding. That friggin thing is huge. |
progressoid |
Oct-08-10 03:17 PM |
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The bulk is mostly the batteries... |
liberation |
Oct-08-10 04:11 PM |
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4 D Cell Batteries... |
kirby |
Oct-08-10 04:48 PM |
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It sounds like abandoned property to me. n/t |
Ian David |
Oct-08-10 03:02 PM |
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should've taken it to the local city dump. |
provis99 |
Oct-08-10 03:42 PM |
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He should have put it on a cross country truck |
jimlup |
Oct-08-10 03:52 PM |
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a private investigator put a bug in my car, |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Oct-08-10 03:55 PM |
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He should have dropped it in the toilet. |
DeSwiss |
Oct-08-10 04:17 PM |
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The Shape of Things to Come... |
RobertBlue |
Oct-08-10 04:22 PM |
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He should have taken it off and put it on someone |
DeadManInc |
Oct-08-10 04:26 PM |
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I would have boxed it up and sent it to |
GETPLANING |
Oct-08-10 04:34 PM |
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If I ever find one, I'm gonna slip it into the shopping cart of the stinkiest, |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-08-10 04:39 PM |
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Paging Pastor Niemoller! n/t |
RufusTFirefly |
Oct-08-10 04:54 PM |
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SecularMotion |
Diclotican |
Oct-08-10 06:01 PM |
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What are the odds that they had a warrant for any of this? |
ThomCat |
Oct-08-10 07:01 PM |
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Rogue agency is right... |
Mr_Jefferson_24 |
Oct-08-10 10:27 PM |
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Hilarious, Depressing and Embarrassing all in one |
fascisthunter |
Oct-08-10 07:01 PM |
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Sounds like a huge waste of taxpayer dollars all the way around |
EVDebs |
Oct-08-10 07:25 PM |
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bizarre! An American citizen, a student.. jeez.. I am glad the kid found it. |
earcandle |
Oct-08-10 07:40 PM |
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If it was THAT big, maybe he was MEANT to find it? |
Ian David |
Oct-08-10 07:53 PM |
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That would have been extraordinarily kind and compassionate of the FBI. Are they capable of that? |
earcandle |
Oct-08-10 07:57 PM |
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"You don’t need to call your lawyer. Don’t worry, you’re boring." |
boppers |
Oct-08-10 07:41 PM |
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If I found it on my car I'd give it a drink |
madokie |
Oct-08-10 07:53 PM |
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I'd go to a truck stop and put it on an 18-wheeler with out-of-state plates. |
Ian David |
Oct-08-10 07:55 PM |
#128 |
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Actually I'd take it the shop and tear it apart and see whats inside |
madokie |
Oct-09-10 06:41 AM |
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All wrong. You take it apart and take pictures of every component. |
Sirveri |
Oct-08-10 08:07 PM |
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If you put it into a steel trash can, they cannot track it |
Kolesar |
Oct-08-10 08:48 PM |
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a mylar bag might also work. But destroying the device costs them money. |
Sirveri |
Oct-08-10 10:59 PM |
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Mylar just gave me an idea! Attach a bunch of mylar helium balloons to it and send it flying! n/t |
Ian David |
Oct-09-10 02:08 PM |
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If still in college I'd visit the electronic's department. |
TheMadMonk |
Oct-08-10 10:27 PM |
#144 |
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Be a good citizen, mail it back |
DissedByBush |
Oct-08-10 09:05 PM |
#135 |
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just saw this story on local news. this is starting to get out of control, seriously. |
inna |
Oct-08-10 09:07 PM |
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They gave it to him when they put it in his car, by definition. |
grahamhgreen |
Oct-08-10 09:21 PM |
#137 |
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GPS attached to student's car by FBI |
Dirigo |
Oct-08-10 10:02 PM |
#142 |
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Show me the warrant |
usregimechange |
Oct-09-10 12:19 AM |
#149 |
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Can't the FBI make a tracker that doesn't look like a movie prop? |
urgk |
Oct-09-10 07:26 AM |
#159 |
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So now they don't even care if they get caught any more? k/r n/t |
zehnkatzen |
Oct-09-10 11:52 AM |
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Frankly I love this story! |
The abyss |
Oct-09-10 07:44 PM |
#167 |