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fishbulb703 Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:31 PM
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73. Great points. +1
Hit the nail on the head there.
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  -White House blocked BP oil spill estimates - Govt panel G_j  Oct-06-10 11:11 AM   #0 
  - Change! Oh wait.  Brickbat   Oct-06-10 11:14 AM   #1 
  - change takes time...  G_j   Oct-06-10 11:31 AM   #7 
  - ?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-06-10 01:33 PM   #32 
  - I was in a rush  G_j   Oct-06-10 01:44 PM   #39 
     - I got it and I agree. Policies and laws take time, not behavior. nm  rhett o rick   Oct-06-10 02:28 PM   #53 
     - I got what you were saying.  SusanaMontana41   Oct-06-10 02:40 PM   #59 
     - what you said was crystal clear. n/t  nyc 4 Biden   Oct-06-10 03:53 PM   #85 
  - So what is the truth?  FrenchieCat   Oct-06-10 09:24 PM   #154 
     - more details  G_j   Oct-06-10 11:06 PM   #158 
        - Well, we also have the response from the White House.......  FrenchieCat   Oct-07-10 12:47 AM   #160 
           - FrenchieCat  rainlillie   Oct-07-10 06:51 AM   #163 
           - you were groaning about "a report that no one has seen"  G_j   Oct-07-10 10:07 AM   #172 
  - Meet the new boss - same as the old boss. Gulf issues, hurricanes  24601   Oct-06-10 09:24 PM   #153 
  - Recommend  xchrom   Oct-06-10 11:18 AM   #2 
  - Love that transparency!  DJ13   Oct-06-10 11:19 AM   #3 
  - Yeah, this  ProSense   Oct-06-10 11:43 AM   #10 
  - after the fact  G_j   Oct-06-10 12:57 PM   #15 
  - Nothing you won't defend.  RetroLounge   Oct-06-10 05:16 PM   #104 
  - That's not transparency. You're just looking through the White House solar panels.  SusanaMontana41   Oct-07-10 02:27 AM   #162 
  - That is rotten.  northoftheborder   Oct-06-10 11:20 AM   #4 
  - Damning, if true.  DirkGently   Oct-06-10 11:22 AM   #5 
  - Call me cynical, but I'm not the least bit surprised. The  WestSeattle2   Oct-06-10 08:57 PM   #151 
  - It was NOT Obama! This was one of those enemies he was keeping CLOSE  HereSince1628   Oct-06-10 11:30 AM   #6 
  - It's three-dimensional chess, obviously.  stranger81   Oct-06-10 03:32 PM   #75 
  - Oh, chess. I first read "cheese". Well, I'm in Wisconsin after all. n/t  elocs   Oct-06-10 03:44 PM   #82 
     - It's a very cheesy chess game ... !!  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 06:50 PM   #128 
  - Keeping a watch on enemies is one thing  lark   Oct-06-10 03:54 PM   #86 
  - Who exactly was responsible for putting/keeping those  obxhead   Oct-06-10 05:47 PM   #111 
     - Hey! Look over there!!! A flying saucer!!!!!!!! n/t  HereSince1628   Oct-06-10 05:53 PM   #114 
        - I think that answers my question sufficiently.  obxhead   Oct-06-10 06:08 PM   #117 
  - Disgusting  saigon68   Oct-06-10 11:32 AM   #8 
  - I remember back then that all the estimates were wrong, so what was the point.  Mr. Sparkle   Oct-06-10 11:38 AM   #9 
  - for me, the point here is motive.  G_j   Oct-06-10 11:49 AM   #11 
  - Except they censored the worst-case scenarios. That's called bias. n/t  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 01:34 PM   #34 
  - Well said, and people were already going nuts, and how do we know Obama made the call?  ProgressiveMajority   Oct-06-10 02:11 PM   #49 
  - Response to nice summary of talking point list.  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 02:22 PM   #51 
  - Can't say it better than that. n/t  SusanaMontana41   Oct-06-10 02:43 PM   #60 
  - Yup  MissDeeds   Oct-06-10 03:33 PM   #76 
  - If we can fight wars for oil, what is a cover up for oil spills?  molly77   Oct-06-10 08:07 PM   #146 
  - Not to mention that I guarantee you and everyone else that it would have been better to  AlabamaLibrul   Oct-06-10 05:32 PM   #107 
  - Plus it made the scientists look bad. The very people who were supposed to bring credibility  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 06:25 PM   #120 
  - +1000% ... plus it builds suspicion, like why the freeze on off-shore drilling has been lifted???  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 06:58 PM   #131 
  - And let me add  Oak2004   Oct-06-10 08:32 PM   #149 
  - LOL!  No Elephants   Oct-06-10 04:16 PM   #88 
  - We also heard the story of the 9/11 First Responders.  sabrina 1   Oct-06-10 07:59 PM   #144 
  - The problem wasn't that all the estimates were wrong.  stranger81   Oct-06-10 03:34 PM   #77 
  - Seriously?  liberation   Oct-06-10 04:17 PM   #89 
  - So the answer was to withhold the worst news?  No Elephants   Oct-06-10 04:33 PM   #97 
  - Absolutely no excuse or legal or ethical rationalization for this.  Divernan   Oct-06-10 12:14 PM   #12 
  - +1  Iowa   Oct-06-10 01:35 PM   #35 
  - There were a lot of people defending BP (both vocally and silently). This is not a good story  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 01:36 PM   #36 
  - So far Obama has protected and enabled and helped:  truedelphi   Oct-06-10 01:55 PM   #40 
  - Nice list. It may be too short. But how would we know? n/t  SusanaMontana41   Oct-06-10 03:08 PM   #66 
  - And we should vote democratic in Nov. f ? Neither  molly77   Oct-06-10 08:10 PM   #147 
     - exactly  janewin   Oct-07-10 11:09 AM   #174 
  - plus plus....  speppin   Oct-06-10 03:07 PM   #65 
  - Great points. +1  fishbulb703   Oct-06-10 03:31 PM   #73 
  - As I've said before... It's "business as usual" until BP execs are in jail. And I'm not  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 12:33 PM   #13 
  - But it's OK when our guy does it!  OnyxCollie   Oct-06-10 12:49 PM   #14 
  - IOKWWDI is hot hot hot!  nashville_brook   Oct-06-10 03:08 PM   #67 
  - +1000  MissDeeds   Oct-06-10 03:42 PM   #81 
  - Obama is not Superman. He can't go down there and plug the hole himself!  EFerrari   Oct-06-10 12:58 PM   #16 
  - What does that have to do with any of this?  skepticscott   Oct-06-10 01:05 PM   #18 
  - That was one of the refrains around here  EFerrari   Oct-06-10 01:07 PM   #20 
  - :sarcasm:  OnyxCollie   Oct-06-10 01:08 PM   #21 
  - you forgot something  G_j   Oct-06-10 01:09 PM   #22 
  - Oops.  EFerrari   Oct-06-10 01:13 PM   #25 
     - what is funny  G_j   Oct-06-10 01:18 PM   #27 
        - 100's of times on this site alone.  obxhead   Oct-06-10 05:52 PM   #113 
  - Yes, but he is Aquaman. He could have directed a school of whales to plug the hole!  CLANG   Oct-06-10 01:10 PM   #23 
  - Get real!  Roy Rolling   Oct-06-10 02:31 PM   #55 
     - You get real!! You're living in a fantasy world - that comes from a movie screenplay!  CLANG   Oct-06-10 02:48 PM   #61 
     - No kidding... with the current budget crisis....  liberation   Oct-06-10 04:20 PM   #90 
     - Sharks were in charge of the crisis and they still are. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-06-10 03:42 PM   #80 
  - Nicely done.  hulka38   Oct-06-10 04:38 PM   #100 
  - heh  Enrique   Oct-07-10 09:39 AM   #170 
  - And now we are getting some change in the White House  JDPriestly   Oct-06-10 01:05 PM   #17 
  - Are you saying Rahm and Summers were responsible for coddling BP? I doubt they  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 01:29 PM   #30 
     - I believe that the head of the OMB is also being changed.  JDPriestly   Oct-06-10 01:34 PM   #33 
  - Pitiful . . . . until we nationalize oil industry, we're at the mercy of corporate pressure  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 01:06 PM   #19 
  - +1000  G_j   Oct-06-10 01:11 PM   #24 
  - Nationalized oil companies don't work well  bherrera   Oct-06-10 01:27 PM   #29 
  - Ever heard of Norway's Statoil?  GeorgeGist   Oct-06-10 03:20 PM   #68 
  - He only hears whatever he is paid to hear...  liberation   Oct-06-10 04:25 PM   #94 
     - Thanks for the laugh ... and OUCH .... what happened in Spain?  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 06:47 PM   #126 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-06-10 07:14 PM   #135 
           - Thanks for the info ....  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 07:20 PM   #138 
  - LOL  liberation   Oct-06-10 04:22 PM   #92 
  - NATIONALIZING the oil industry is the O N L Y answer ...  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 06:43 PM   #125 
  - Can we try something small and simple, like putting corporate criminals in jail?  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 01:33 PM   #31 
  - Apparently not. When a local jurisdiction filed charges against someone culpable of War Crimes,  truedelphi   Oct-06-10 01:57 PM   #42 
  - The Dpt of Justice has an open case  bherrera   Oct-06-10 02:33 PM   #56 
  - Thanks much for the information. Does that sound encouraging to you? n/t  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 02:39 PM   #58 
  - BP apologist - as usual  lark   Oct-06-10 04:37 PM   #99 
     - Nor was there any pressure from the top to increase profits by cutting safety. That  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 04:41 PM   #102 
     - Sounds like you'd be interested in this thread ...  Nihil   Oct-07-10 07:01 AM   #164 
  - I'd also like to "nationalize" our military again ... is that too complicated, as well...????  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 06:49 PM   #127 
  - Yep. But we have a long way to go because right now we have the opposite...  Iowa   Oct-06-10 01:40 PM   #37 
  - Bingo!  Little Star   Oct-06-10 03:41 PM   #79 
  - Excellent point -- !!!! ..... "our WH and government have been 'corporatized'" -- !!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 07:09 PM   #132 
  - The MIC and the Texas-American Petroleum Mafia are symbiotic entities.  Raster   Oct-06-10 02:07 PM   #47 
  - Sadly, yes .... two out of control programs/agendas .....we need to rein in BOTH--!!  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 07:10 PM   #133 
  - The U.S. govt can nationalize a British based company....how? Invading England?  tjwash   Oct-06-10 02:09 PM   #48 
     - Hmmm, I never heard of invasion as a nationalization technique...  ljm2002   Oct-06-10 04:40 PM   #101 
     - You haven't ....? What do you think Columbus did? What of Hawaii ....  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 07:16 PM   #136 
        - I am well aware of our history...  ljm2002   Oct-06-10 07:33 PM   #140 
           - There are still AMERICAN oil companies --- and the Gulf is still ours???  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 07:45 PM   #142 
     - NATIONALIZING our natural resources .... means OUR natural resources... and the GULF is one of them!  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 07:12 PM   #134 
  - meet the new boss. nt  ksecus   Oct-06-10 01:17 PM   #26 
  - Hi there.  truedelphi   Oct-06-10 02:00 PM   #46 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-06-10 01:19 PM   #28 
  - They never left.  Iowa   Oct-06-10 01:41 PM   #38 
     - Ghosts are like that. Some places are haunted and do strange things to the occupants.  leveymg   Oct-06-10 01:56 PM   #41 
     - The ghosts I think about are the ones leftover in the Intelligence complex from the...  Poll_Blind   Oct-06-10 01:59 PM   #43 
        - Oh, the spooks . . . you'd be surprised how many committee staffers and  leveymg   Oct-06-10 02:12 PM   #50 
     - They were just front guys (not men, they are not men). Did you notice how easily they relinquished  rhett o rick   Oct-06-10 02:30 PM   #54 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-06-10 01:59 PM   #44 
  - Securing a $20 billion fund from BP was not submissive  bherrera   Oct-06-10 02:35 PM   #57 
     - You're blaming the customers..  girl gone mad   Oct-06-10 03:31 PM   #74 
     - LOL!  No Elephants   Oct-06-10 04:28 PM   #95 
  - sigh  barbtries   Oct-06-10 02:00 PM   #45 
  - Read closely. This sucks, but not as bad as the lies of the Bush administration.  jobycom   Oct-06-10 02:27 PM   #52 
  - well, I imagine that  G_j   Oct-06-10 02:53 PM   #62 
  - Yep. Bush wouldn't have appointed a commission, he'd have hired a PR firm. nt  jobycom   Oct-06-10 03:31 PM   #72 
     - and what exactly do you think BP has done nationwide to bullshit you that don't live on the Gulf?  flyarm   Oct-06-10 07:57 PM   #143 
  - That's the kicker. The last 21 months have pretty much been like every other politican.  newtothegame   Oct-06-10 05:33 PM   #108 
     - So when a politician SAYS they will be different in their campaign speeches,  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 06:26 PM   #121 
        - I'm afraid that's what will happen in this corner  tavalon   Oct-06-10 08:24 PM   #148 
  - Yes They Did!  Bluebear   Oct-06-10 03:02 PM   #63 
  - oh no they did'n --  nashville_brook   Oct-06-10 03:05 PM   #64 
  - no big surprise....  madrchsod   Oct-06-10 03:23 PM   #69 
  - **faceplant**  stranger81   Oct-06-10 03:30 PM   #70 
  - It's a headline to grab attention when the report isn't remotely damning  ProSense   Oct-06-10 03:31 PM   #71 
  - Thanks. This post and the link didn't really show any proof. I kept reading  The Wielding Truth   Oct-06-10 05:19 PM   #105 
  - Thank you. The nastiness in this thread is disappointing but not  Kdillard   Oct-06-10 06:41 PM   # 
  - The more things change....  humbled_opinion   Oct-06-10 03:39 PM   #78 
  - That lump under the rug keeps on growing and growing and growing...  City Lights   Oct-06-10 03:44 PM   #83 
  - Timing is everything....  blindpig   Oct-06-10 03:50 PM   #84 
  - How very, very hopeful and changealicious! n/t  QC   Oct-06-10 04:13 PM   #87 
  - Nationalize the oil industry....  Zax2me   Oct-06-10 04:22 PM   #91 
  - Now you see right there...  humbled_opinion   Oct-06-10 06:14 PM   #118 
  - And like adding Hillary to this disaster is going to make everything better???  Peregrine Took   Oct-06-10 04:24 PM   #93 
  - How interesting that Hillary was not mentioned  Autumn   Oct-06-10 04:35 PM   #98 
  - What the heck are you talking about??????  Beacool   Oct-07-10 10:19 AM   #173 
  - Inmates running the asylum  ccarnow   Oct-06-10 04:32 PM   #96 
  - re:  ccarnow   Oct-06-10 06:18 PM   #119 
  - Can't get the peasants riled up, can we?  Moondog   Oct-06-10 05:11 PM   #103 
  - The peasants should sit quietly and watch their property values plummet and  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 06:28 PM   #122 
  - Couldn't we just hold this news until after the elections...  jimlup   Oct-06-10 05:31 PM   #106 
  - So this is what transparency looks like.  obxhead   Oct-06-10 05:42 PM   #109 
  - OMB denies it suppressed oil flow data during BP spill  ProSense   Oct-06-10 05:43 PM   #110 
  - And the new guy at OMB is an ex-Citicorp executive ... thanks Obama...!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 06:41 PM   #124 
     - Hey, that is a change...  liberation   Oct-06-10 07:17 PM   #137 
        - All of the banks seem to be involved ....  defendandprotect   Oct-06-10 07:32 PM   #139 
  - "estimates of worst-case scenario"  Turbineguy   Oct-06-10 05:51 PM   #112 
  - The facts were known by the scientists ..they were silenced! By this White House  flyarm   Oct-06-10 08:00 PM   #145 
  - By now, no surprise. The Democratic Party and Obama won't oppose corporate power...  SteveM   Oct-06-10 06:05 PM   #115 
  - But all those far-right 'muricans want gov't-managed health care. Don't forget that. n/t  metapunditedgy   Oct-06-10 06:29 PM   #123 
  - Nationalize the Oil Companies... Oil is too much of a Security Issue  fascisthunter   Oct-06-10 06:07 PM   #116 
  - No longer surprised by any lie or cover-up  Generic Other   Oct-06-10 06:51 PM   #129 
  - +  Bluebear   Oct-07-10 01:30 AM   #161 
  - "You can't handle the truth," shouted  ooglymoogly   Oct-06-10 06:56 PM   #130 
  - "WE" the people of the Gulf were telling the truth and yet we were called liars! The Liars are and  flyarm   Oct-06-10 07:40 PM   #141 
  - The cover up about the location, content & amount of dispersants contiues.  Divernan   Oct-06-10 09:16 PM   #152 
     - you have that 100% right..and I am damn sick of all the apologists ..  flyarm   Oct-07-10 07:57 AM   #166 
        - According to some O true believers, you & I are just "gullible, at best".  Divernan   Oct-07-10 08:48 AM   #167 
           - My eyes are not gullible! I am a lifelong professional.  flyarm   Oct-07-10 08:56 AM   #168 
              - Most of us here know who they are -  Divernan   Oct-07-10 09:36 AM   #169 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-06-10 08:48 PM   #150 
  - What it proves to me is that the "Follower" attitude is thick even here......  FrenchieCat   Oct-06-10 09:32 PM   #155 
     - You don't want to KNOW what I think of your attitude! ..and your cover ups! eom  flyarm   Oct-07-10 09:48 AM   #171 
  - This is why we need more progressive Democrats in Congress.  countmyvote4real   Oct-06-10 10:47 PM   #156 
  - The Gulf Ecocide was a Massive Cover Up from Day 1!  earth mom   Oct-06-10 10:49 PM   #157 
  - You bet it was and is and everyone of us on the Gulf know it damn well! eom  flyarm   Oct-06-10 11:48 PM   #159 
  - Another chance  Panaconda   Oct-07-10 07:48 AM   #165 
 

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