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Wed Oct-06-10 01:40 PM
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| 37. Yep. But we have a long way to go because right now we have the opposite... |
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Not only is the oil industry not nationalized - our WH and government has been "corporatized".
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| -White House blocked BP oil spill estimates - Govt panel |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 11:11 AM |
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Change! Oh wait. |
Brickbat |
Oct-06-10 11:14 AM |
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change takes time... |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 11:31 AM |
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? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Oct-06-10 01:33 PM |
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I was in a rush |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 01:44 PM |
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I got it and I agree. Policies and laws take time, not behavior. nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-06-10 02:28 PM |
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I got what you were saying. |
SusanaMontana41 |
Oct-06-10 02:40 PM |
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what you said was crystal clear. n/t |
nyc 4 Biden |
Oct-06-10 03:53 PM |
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So what is the truth? |
FrenchieCat |
Oct-06-10 09:24 PM |
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more details |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 11:06 PM |
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Well, we also have the response from the White House....... |
FrenchieCat |
Oct-07-10 12:47 AM |
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FrenchieCat |
rainlillie |
Oct-07-10 06:51 AM |
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you were groaning about "a report that no one has seen" |
G_j |
Oct-07-10 10:07 AM |
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Meet the new boss - same as the old boss. Gulf issues, hurricanes |
24601 |
Oct-06-10 09:24 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Oct-06-10 11:18 AM |
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Love that transparency! |
DJ13 |
Oct-06-10 11:19 AM |
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Yeah, this |
ProSense |
Oct-06-10 11:43 AM |
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after the fact |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 12:57 PM |
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Nothing you won't defend. |
RetroLounge |
Oct-06-10 05:16 PM |
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That's not transparency. You're just looking through the White House solar panels. |
SusanaMontana41 |
Oct-07-10 02:27 AM |
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That is rotten. |
northoftheborder |
Oct-06-10 11:20 AM |
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Damning, if true. |
DirkGently |
Oct-06-10 11:22 AM |
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Call me cynical, but I'm not the least bit surprised. The |
WestSeattle2 |
Oct-06-10 08:57 PM |
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It was NOT Obama! This was one of those enemies he was keeping CLOSE |
HereSince1628 |
Oct-06-10 11:30 AM |
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It's three-dimensional chess, obviously. |
stranger81 |
Oct-06-10 03:32 PM |
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Oh, chess. I first read "cheese". Well, I'm in Wisconsin after all. n/t |
elocs |
Oct-06-10 03:44 PM |
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It's a very cheesy chess game ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:50 PM |
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Keeping a watch on enemies is one thing |
lark |
Oct-06-10 03:54 PM |
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Who exactly was responsible for putting/keeping those |
obxhead |
Oct-06-10 05:47 PM |
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Hey! Look over there!!! A flying saucer!!!!!!!! n/t |
HereSince1628 |
Oct-06-10 05:53 PM |
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I think that answers my question sufficiently. |
obxhead |
Oct-06-10 06:08 PM |
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Disgusting |
saigon68 |
Oct-06-10 11:32 AM |
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I remember back then that all the estimates were wrong, so what was the point. |
Mr. Sparkle |
Oct-06-10 11:38 AM |
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for me, the point here is motive. |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 11:49 AM |
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Except they censored the worst-case scenarios. That's called bias. n/t |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 01:34 PM |
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Well said, and people were already going nuts, and how do we know Obama made the call? |
ProgressiveMajority |
Oct-06-10 02:11 PM |
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Response to nice summary of talking point list. |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 02:22 PM |
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Can't say it better than that. n/t |
SusanaMontana41 |
Oct-06-10 02:43 PM |
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Yup |
MissDeeds |
Oct-06-10 03:33 PM |
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If we can fight wars for oil, what is a cover up for oil spills? |
molly77 |
Oct-06-10 08:07 PM |
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Not to mention that I guarantee you and everyone else that it would have been better to |
AlabamaLibrul |
Oct-06-10 05:32 PM |
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Plus it made the scientists look bad. The very people who were supposed to bring credibility |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 06:25 PM |
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+1000% ... plus it builds suspicion, like why the freeze on off-shore drilling has been lifted??? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:58 PM |
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And let me add |
Oak2004 |
Oct-06-10 08:32 PM |
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LOL! |
No Elephants |
Oct-06-10 04:16 PM |
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We also heard the story of the 9/11 First Responders. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-06-10 07:59 PM |
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The problem wasn't that all the estimates were wrong. |
stranger81 |
Oct-06-10 03:34 PM |
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Seriously? |
liberation |
Oct-06-10 04:17 PM |
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So the answer was to withhold the worst news? |
No Elephants |
Oct-06-10 04:33 PM |
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Absolutely no excuse or legal or ethical rationalization for this. |
Divernan |
Oct-06-10 12:14 PM |
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+1 |
Iowa |
Oct-06-10 01:35 PM |
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There were a lot of people defending BP (both vocally and silently). This is not a good story |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 01:36 PM |
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So far Obama has protected and enabled and helped: |
truedelphi |
Oct-06-10 01:55 PM |
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Nice list. It may be too short. But how would we know? n/t |
SusanaMontana41 |
Oct-06-10 03:08 PM |
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And we should vote democratic in Nov. f ? Neither |
molly77 |
Oct-06-10 08:10 PM |
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exactly |
janewin |
Oct-07-10 11:09 AM |
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plus plus.... |
speppin |
Oct-06-10 03:07 PM |
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Great points. +1 |
fishbulb703 |
Oct-06-10 03:31 PM |
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As I've said before... It's "business as usual" until BP execs are in jail. And I'm not |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 12:33 PM |
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But it's OK when our guy does it! |
OnyxCollie |
Oct-06-10 12:49 PM |
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IOKWWDI is hot hot hot! |
nashville_brook |
Oct-06-10 03:08 PM |
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+1000 |
MissDeeds |
Oct-06-10 03:42 PM |
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Obama is not Superman. He can't go down there and plug the hole himself! |
EFerrari |
Oct-06-10 12:58 PM |
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What does that have to do with any of this? |
skepticscott |
Oct-06-10 01:05 PM |
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That was one of the refrains around here |
EFerrari |
Oct-06-10 01:07 PM |
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:sarcasm: |
OnyxCollie |
Oct-06-10 01:08 PM |
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you forgot something |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 01:09 PM |
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Oops. |
EFerrari |
Oct-06-10 01:13 PM |
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what is funny |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 01:18 PM |
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100's of times on this site alone. |
obxhead |
Oct-06-10 05:52 PM |
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Yes, but he is Aquaman. He could have directed a school of whales to plug the hole! |
CLANG |
Oct-06-10 01:10 PM |
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Get real! |
Roy Rolling |
Oct-06-10 02:31 PM |
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You get real!! You're living in a fantasy world - that comes from a movie screenplay! |
CLANG |
Oct-06-10 02:48 PM |
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No kidding... with the current budget crisis.... |
liberation |
Oct-06-10 04:20 PM |
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Sharks were in charge of the crisis and they still are. n/t |
EFerrari |
Oct-06-10 03:42 PM |
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Nicely done. |
hulka38 |
Oct-06-10 04:38 PM |
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heh |
Enrique |
Oct-07-10 09:39 AM |
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And now we are getting some change in the White House |
JDPriestly |
Oct-06-10 01:05 PM |
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Are you saying Rahm and Summers were responsible for coddling BP? I doubt they |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 01:29 PM |
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I believe that the head of the OMB is also being changed. |
JDPriestly |
Oct-06-10 01:34 PM |
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Pitiful . . . . until we nationalize oil industry, we're at the mercy of corporate pressure |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 01:06 PM |
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+1000 |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 01:11 PM |
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Nationalized oil companies don't work well |
bherrera |
Oct-06-10 01:27 PM |
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Ever heard of Norway's Statoil? |
GeorgeGist |
Oct-06-10 03:20 PM |
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He only hears whatever he is paid to hear... |
liberation |
Oct-06-10 04:25 PM |
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Thanks for the laugh ... and OUCH .... what happened in Spain? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:47 PM |
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Oct-06-10 07:14 PM |
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Thanks for the info .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:20 PM |
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LOL |
liberation |
Oct-06-10 04:22 PM |
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NATIONALIZING the oil industry is the O N L Y answer ... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:43 PM |
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Can we try something small and simple, like putting corporate criminals in jail? |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 01:33 PM |
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Apparently not. When a local jurisdiction filed charges against someone culpable of War Crimes, |
truedelphi |
Oct-06-10 01:57 PM |
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The Dpt of Justice has an open case |
bherrera |
Oct-06-10 02:33 PM |
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Thanks much for the information. Does that sound encouraging to you? n/t |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 02:39 PM |
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BP apologist - as usual |
lark |
Oct-06-10 04:37 PM |
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Nor was there any pressure from the top to increase profits by cutting safety. That |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 04:41 PM |
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Sounds like you'd be interested in this thread ... |
Nihil |
Oct-07-10 07:01 AM |
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I'd also like to "nationalize" our military again ... is that too complicated, as well...???? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:49 PM |
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Yep. But we have a long way to go because right now we have the opposite... |
Iowa |
Oct-06-10 01:40 PM |
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Bingo! |
Little Star |
Oct-06-10 03:41 PM |
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Excellent point -- !!!! ..... "our WH and government have been 'corporatized'" -- !!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:09 PM |
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The MIC and the Texas-American Petroleum Mafia are symbiotic entities. |
Raster |
Oct-06-10 02:07 PM |
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Sadly, yes .... two out of control programs/agendas .....we need to rein in BOTH--!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:10 PM |
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The U.S. govt can nationalize a British based company....how? Invading England? |
tjwash |
Oct-06-10 02:09 PM |
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Hmmm, I never heard of invasion as a nationalization technique... |
ljm2002 |
Oct-06-10 04:40 PM |
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You haven't ....? What do you think Columbus did? What of Hawaii .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:16 PM |
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I am well aware of our history... |
ljm2002 |
Oct-06-10 07:33 PM |
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There are still AMERICAN oil companies --- and the Gulf is still ours??? |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:45 PM |
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NATIONALIZING our natural resources .... means OUR natural resources... and the GULF is one of them! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:12 PM |
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meet the new boss. nt |
ksecus |
Oct-06-10 01:17 PM |
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Hi there. |
truedelphi |
Oct-06-10 02:00 PM |
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Oct-06-10 01:19 PM |
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They never left. |
Iowa |
Oct-06-10 01:41 PM |
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Ghosts are like that. Some places are haunted and do strange things to the occupants. |
leveymg |
Oct-06-10 01:56 PM |
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The ghosts I think about are the ones leftover in the Intelligence complex from the... |
Poll_Blind |
Oct-06-10 01:59 PM |
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Oh, the spooks . . . you'd be surprised how many committee staffers and |
leveymg |
Oct-06-10 02:12 PM |
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They were just front guys (not men, they are not men). Did you notice how easily they relinquished |
rhett o rick |
Oct-06-10 02:30 PM |
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Oct-06-10 01:59 PM |
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Securing a $20 billion fund from BP was not submissive |
bherrera |
Oct-06-10 02:35 PM |
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You're blaming the customers.. |
girl gone mad |
Oct-06-10 03:31 PM |
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LOL! |
No Elephants |
Oct-06-10 04:28 PM |
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sigh |
barbtries |
Oct-06-10 02:00 PM |
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Read closely. This sucks, but not as bad as the lies of the Bush administration. |
jobycom |
Oct-06-10 02:27 PM |
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well, I imagine that |
G_j |
Oct-06-10 02:53 PM |
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Yep. Bush wouldn't have appointed a commission, he'd have hired a PR firm. nt |
jobycom |
Oct-06-10 03:31 PM |
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and what exactly do you think BP has done nationwide to bullshit you that don't live on the Gulf? |
flyarm |
Oct-06-10 07:57 PM |
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That's the kicker. The last 21 months have pretty much been like every other politican. |
newtothegame |
Oct-06-10 05:33 PM |
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So when a politician SAYS they will be different in their campaign speeches, |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 06:26 PM |
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I'm afraid that's what will happen in this corner |
tavalon |
Oct-06-10 08:24 PM |
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Yes They Did! |
Bluebear |
Oct-06-10 03:02 PM |
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oh no they did'n -- |
nashville_brook |
Oct-06-10 03:05 PM |
#64 |
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no big surprise.... |
madrchsod |
Oct-06-10 03:23 PM |
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**faceplant** |
stranger81 |
Oct-06-10 03:30 PM |
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It's a headline to grab attention when the report isn't remotely damning |
ProSense |
Oct-06-10 03:31 PM |
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Thanks. This post and the link didn't really show any proof. I kept reading |
The Wielding Truth |
Oct-06-10 05:19 PM |
#105 |
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Thank you. The nastiness in this thread is disappointing but not |
Kdillard |
Oct-06-10 06:41 PM |
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The more things change.... |
humbled_opinion |
Oct-06-10 03:39 PM |
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That lump under the rug keeps on growing and growing and growing... |
City Lights |
Oct-06-10 03:44 PM |
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Timing is everything.... |
blindpig |
Oct-06-10 03:50 PM |
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How very, very hopeful and changealicious! n/t |
QC |
Oct-06-10 04:13 PM |
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Nationalize the oil industry.... |
Zax2me |
Oct-06-10 04:22 PM |
#91 |
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Now you see right there... |
humbled_opinion |
Oct-06-10 06:14 PM |
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And like adding Hillary to this disaster is going to make everything better??? |
Peregrine Took |
Oct-06-10 04:24 PM |
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How interesting that Hillary was not mentioned |
Autumn |
Oct-06-10 04:35 PM |
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What the heck are you talking about?????? |
Beacool |
Oct-07-10 10:19 AM |
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Inmates running the asylum |
ccarnow |
Oct-06-10 04:32 PM |
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re: |
ccarnow |
Oct-06-10 06:18 PM |
#119 |
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Can't get the peasants riled up, can we? |
Moondog |
Oct-06-10 05:11 PM |
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The peasants should sit quietly and watch their property values plummet and |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 06:28 PM |
#122 |
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Couldn't we just hold this news until after the elections... |
jimlup |
Oct-06-10 05:31 PM |
#106 |
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So this is what transparency looks like. |
obxhead |
Oct-06-10 05:42 PM |
#109 |
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OMB denies it suppressed oil flow data during BP spill |
ProSense |
Oct-06-10 05:43 PM |
#110 |
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And the new guy at OMB is an ex-Citicorp executive ... thanks Obama...!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 06:41 PM |
#124 |
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Hey, that is a change... |
liberation |
Oct-06-10 07:17 PM |
#137 |
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All of the banks seem to be involved .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-06-10 07:32 PM |
#139 |
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"estimates of worst-case scenario" |
Turbineguy |
Oct-06-10 05:51 PM |
#112 |
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The facts were known by the scientists ..they were silenced! By this White House |
flyarm |
Oct-06-10 08:00 PM |
#145 |
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By now, no surprise. The Democratic Party and Obama won't oppose corporate power... |
SteveM |
Oct-06-10 06:05 PM |
#115 |
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But all those far-right 'muricans want gov't-managed health care. Don't forget that. n/t |
metapunditedgy |
Oct-06-10 06:29 PM |
#123 |
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Nationalize the Oil Companies... Oil is too much of a Security Issue |
fascisthunter |
Oct-06-10 06:07 PM |
#116 |
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No longer surprised by any lie or cover-up |
Generic Other |
Oct-06-10 06:51 PM |
#129 |
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+ |
Bluebear |
Oct-07-10 01:30 AM |
#161 |
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"You can't handle the truth," shouted |
ooglymoogly |
Oct-06-10 06:56 PM |
#130 |
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"WE" the people of the Gulf were telling the truth and yet we were called liars! The Liars are and |
flyarm |
Oct-06-10 07:40 PM |
#141 |
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The cover up about the location, content & amount of dispersants contiues. |
Divernan |
Oct-06-10 09:16 PM |
#152 |
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you have that 100% right..and I am damn sick of all the apologists .. |
flyarm |
Oct-07-10 07:57 AM |
#166 |
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According to some O true believers, you & I are just "gullible, at best". |
Divernan |
Oct-07-10 08:48 AM |
#167 |
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My eyes are not gullible! I am a lifelong professional. |
flyarm |
Oct-07-10 08:56 AM |
#168 |
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Most of us here know who they are - |
Divernan |
Oct-07-10 09:36 AM |
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Oct-06-10 08:48 PM |
#150 |
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What it proves to me is that the "Follower" attitude is thick even here...... |
FrenchieCat |
Oct-06-10 09:32 PM |
#155 |
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You don't want to KNOW what I think of your attitude! ..and your cover ups! eom |
flyarm |
Oct-07-10 09:48 AM |
#171 |
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This is why we need more progressive Democrats in Congress. |
countmyvote4real |
Oct-06-10 10:47 PM |
#156 |
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The Gulf Ecocide was a Massive Cover Up from Day 1! |
earth mom |
Oct-06-10 10:49 PM |
#157 |
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You bet it was and is and everyone of us on the Gulf know it damn well! eom |
flyarm |
Oct-06-10 11:48 PM |
#159 |
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Another chance |
Panaconda |
Oct-07-10 07:48 AM |
#165 |
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