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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #50
51. When you paralyze the country and kidnap the president
Edited on Mon Oct-04-10 12:47 PM by EFerrari
and try to kill him, that's generally understood to be a coup.

ETA: Kidnap is probably the wrong word. Correa was held hostage.
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  -Chavez Says U.S. Is Behind Failed Coup Attempt Against Ecuador's Correa dipsydoodle  Oct-03-10 03:29 PM   #0 
  - Naw, we would never do anything like that.  dixiegrrrrl   Oct-03-10 03:42 PM   #1 
  - Chavez loses a lot of credibility with this type of comment  bherrera   Oct-05-10 01:05 PM   #100 
  - Of course, that did occur to me too  Proletariatprincess   Oct-03-10 03:42 PM   #2 
  - Chavez can't help himself at this point...  Imajika   Oct-03-10 03:46 PM   #3 
  - That's funny. Anyone who knows anything about Ecuador has raised the question  EFerrari   Oct-03-10 03:56 PM   #4 
  - LOL!!!......Yes and Chevron is totally innocent as well  goforit   Oct-03-10 05:55 PM   #16 
     - Oh, totally!  EFerrari   Oct-03-10 07:01 PM   #27 
  - By the same token  Cirque du So-What   Oct-03-10 04:01 PM   #5 
  - yes yes yes  iandhr   Oct-03-10 05:37 PM   #13 
     - he did?  davidinalameda   Oct-03-10 06:21 PM   #21 
     - Said "the man"  Ken Burch   Oct-05-10 01:02 AM   #93 
     - spare us the right wing propaganda  JackRiddler   Oct-03-10 06:37 PM   #22 
     - What a pantload. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-03-10 06:52 PM   #24 
  - Unfortunately, Chavez is usually correct ... this is not some innoce US we're talking about -- !!  defendandprotect   Oct-03-10 04:50 PM   #9 
  - That might work if he was the only one.  sabrina 1   Oct-03-10 05:19 PM   #11 
  - Read some history of the region. You only have to go back to Chile in 1973 and Operation  yurbud   Oct-03-10 07:04 PM   #28 
     - You only have to go back to last year in Honduras.  EFerrari   Oct-03-10 10:41 PM   #31 
  - Oh Hugo, give it a rest, for God's sake. This "the gringos did  COLGATE4   Oct-03-10 04:34 PM   #6 
  - it is getting old and tired..  frylock   Oct-03-10 04:45 PM   #8 
  - Rather, these "coups" by US are getting "old and tired" and citizens should be  defendandprotect   Oct-03-10 04:52 PM   #10 
  - We voted foor Obama...THAT stopped it  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 12:20 PM   #45 
     - Well, no, it didn't. There was an assassination plot foiled against Morales  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 12:28 PM   #47 
     - Yet, the RW pillories Obama for getting cuddly with Chavez.  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 12:49 PM   #53 
     - Yes, the right wing is full of shit.  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 12:54 PM   #55 
        - Explain to me how the full-of-shit RW pillories Obama for being cuddly  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 01:04 PM   #59 
           - Because the RW says stupid shit all the time?  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 01:10 PM   #60 
              - I know the RW is pretty wound-up about when Chavez gave Obama a book  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 01:27 PM   #64 
                 - There really is no disconnect, when you think about it.  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 01:34 PM   #67 
                    - So if Obama can do nothing to appease the RW then why would he  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 01:49 PM   #69 
                       - No one who is an expert on Ecuador is writing off US involvement  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 01:51 PM   #71 
                          - The OP is about Chavez.  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 02:00 PM   #74 
                             - As I said, no one who is an expert on Ecuador is writing off US involvement.  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 02:40 PM   #75 
                                - Maybe what this thread needs is experts on how the US works  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 02:48 PM   #77 
                                   - Greg Grandin, Mark Weisbrot, John Perkins,  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 02:53 PM   #79 
     - I don't think the CIA cares who is elected  Scruffy1   Oct-04-10 01:59 PM   #73 
        - CIA/Pentagon/intelligence have betrayed presidents ... back to Ike and JFK ...!!  defendandprotect   Oct-04-10 07:53 PM   #87 
           - So right. The Bay of Pigs was already in motion before John F. Kennedy was elected.  Judi Lynn   Oct-05-10 01:05 AM   #94 
              - When Ike was hospitalized with his heart attack, NIXON was running Operation 40 which was  defendandprotect   Oct-05-10 09:06 AM   #96 
     - Let's start with the Supreme Court ... Gang of 5 ... !!  defendandprotect   Oct-04-10 07:52 PM   #86 
  - Yes ....The US needs a new strategy, Old Bush policies are boring.  goforit   Oct-03-10 05:58 PM   #18 
  - It's a pity when truth gets "old and tired"  donheld   Oct-03-10 10:37 PM   #29 
  - Racism sells.  boppers   Oct-03-10 10:41 PM   #30 
  - He's a commie! Head for the hills! The United States led by the CIA is fighting for democracy!  Better Believe It   Oct-04-10 10:57 PM   #90 
     - Look at all that democracy we've been spreading in Afghanistan and Iraq ...ME, in general!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-05-10 09:09 AM   #97 
  - Newsflash: Water is wet!  era veteran   Oct-03-10 04:37 PM   #7 
  - The fact we have a history like that during the cold war  iandhr   Oct-03-10 05:33 PM   #12 
  - Do more reading. You've missed all the years since the cold war, apparently.  Judi Lynn   Oct-03-10 05:50 PM   #15 
  - It's not "history", it's not even "past". n/t  EFerrari   Oct-03-10 06:20 PM   #20 
  - Our "history" doesn't begin or end with Cold War ... all of it is anti-democratic....  defendandprotect   Oct-05-10 09:13 AM   #98 
  - If there is a funny side to this;  greiner3   Oct-03-10 05:37 PM   #14 
  - A coup cannot take place without the military being behind it  Turborama   Oct-03-10 05:57 PM   #17 
  - It took the army 11 hours to rescue the president.  EFerrari   Oct-03-10 06:18 PM   #19 
     - It was a police hospital and he was being held hostage in there, wasn't he?  Turborama   Oct-03-10 06:57 PM   #25 
        - Yes, that's right. And it does make sense that the process  EFerrari   Oct-03-10 07:00 PM   #26 
        - For accuracy  dipsydoodle   Oct-04-10 03:42 AM   #36 
           - "He was treated for the effects of the gas at the National Police Hospital"  Turborama   Oct-04-10 08:23 AM   #39 
              - Good links and pictures.  dipsydoodle   Oct-04-10 09:02 AM   #40 
              - Thanks for posting and linking the images. Good ones. n/t  Judi Lynn   Oct-04-10 09:36 AM   #41 
              - And Correa left that hospital in a wheel chair.  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 12:30 PM   #48 
  - More likely than not.  Vidar   Oct-03-10 06:45 PM   #23 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-03-10 11:51 PM   #32 
  - U.S. press attache lies  rabs   Oct-04-10 02:32 AM   #33 
  - More or less a repeat  dipsydoodle   Oct-04-10 03:39 AM   #35 
  - Totally unprofessional of them, by all standards. n/t  Judi Lynn   Oct-04-10 04:36 AM   #37 
  - Oh, please. If a super power had been behind a coup, the coup would have succeeded for sure.  No Elephants   Oct-04-10 03:07 AM   #34 
  - I have no doubt. nt  Enthusiast   Oct-04-10 07:42 AM   #38 
  - Has Correa or the Ecuadoran government backed up this allegation?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-04-10 11:55 AM   #42 
  - I simply do not believe that either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton would  totodeinhere   Oct-04-10 12:02 PM   #43 
  - I'm with you.  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 12:17 PM   #44 
  - The predatory nature of the US government's relationship  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 12:32 PM   #49 
  - Did Obama order the so-called coup?  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 12:48 PM   #52 
     - It's not that simple. If you've read the thread,  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 12:51 PM   #54 
        - Obama runs the CIA.  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 01:00 PM   #57 
           - There are 42K troops in the national police and maybe a few hundred  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 01:13 PM   #61 
              - Well, if the CIA is conducting cioups behind Obama's back  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 01:19 PM   #62 
                 - Congress is funding this stuff. They fund the State Department  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 01:23 PM   #63 
                    - Ah...dark nefarious cabals of hidden masters  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 01:28 PM   #65 
                       - Not really. The money funneled to the right wing  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 01:31 PM   #66 
                          - It's not news to me. Obama being a RW stooge in the mold of Bush the Younger  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 01:47 PM   #68 
                             - US activity in Latin America has ramped UP under Obama.  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 01:50 PM   #70 
  - "Democrat party"? n/t  Turborama   Oct-04-10 01:00 PM   #56 
  - Why not? Hillary Clinton said the murderous, torturing, kidnapping coupsters in Honduras  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 12:24 PM   #46 
     - Then what are you doing at a message board that supports and raises money for an administration  totodeinhere   Oct-04-10 01:59 PM   #72 
        - Can you point to a time when our government hasn't supported coups  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 02:41 PM   #76 
           - Why should Skinner shut down DU if Obama had nothing to do with  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 02:49 PM   #78 
              - That doesn't really answer my question, does it?  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 02:55 PM   #80 
                 - The question, "Can you point to a time when our government hasn't supported coups?"  Nuclear Unicorn   Oct-04-10 04:08 PM   #82 
                    - Well, no. The United States supported the coup in Honduras  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 10:26 PM   #88 
  - Despite the US record in the region, I don't see any evidence...  Mike Marble   Oct-04-10 12:40 PM   #50 
  - When you paralyze the country and kidnap the president  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 12:46 PM   #51 
     - Yes, I understand that. But I don't see any evidence of US complicity.  Mike Marble   Oct-04-10 03:52 PM   #81 
     - It's too soon to know, imo.  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 07:41 PM   #84 
        - Yes. Sometimes it takes awhile for the facts to come out.  Mike Marble   Oct-05-10 12:25 PM   #99 
     - I don't think that happened  texastoast   Oct-04-10 04:11 PM   #83 
        - Are you kidding? Two men in his guard were shot and killed.  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 07:44 PM   #85 
  - it was actually me, I predicted he would blame the US  dave29   Oct-04-10 01:03 PM   #58 
  - El Presidente for life Chavez is still a wack job.  Bo   Oct-04-10 10:47 PM   #89 
  - It must be true, Faux News says so. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-04-10 11:43 PM   #91 
  - What evidence do you have? Do you have any actual awareness of his administration?  Judi Lynn   Oct-05-10 01:07 AM   #95 
  - Maybe the US boogyman schtick can convince the People to  Socal31   Oct-05-10 12:51 AM   #92 
  - Has Chavez provided any proof to these allegations?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-05-10 01:14 PM   #101 

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