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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:33 PM
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73. Then don't vote for him. Incidently, after Lamont won the primary he DID campaign for Lamont
I won't go into each point you made, but yes they were due to politics in all the cases. He supported spector for his vote on several issues, same thing with lincoln. These people were in the Senate at the time, and he thought he needed their vote to get the legislation passed. That is what politics is about. Kucinich doesn't play politics, however, even Kucinich voted for HCR because of politics, not because he was playing it, but because the game is so entrenched, the options are limited at this time

As long as corporations control our Congress, this is the way it is, and since the Supreme Court has ruled that corporations are individuals, until that changes that is the way things will be

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  -Obama To Young Voters: 'You Can't Sit Out' In 2010 onehandle  Sep-27-10 02:27 PM   #0 
  - Sadly, I'm sure a number of them are saying: "Yes, we can!"  flvegan   Sep-27-10 02:29 PM   #1 
  - Correct  avaistheone1   Sep-27-10 02:43 PM   #3 
  - Note they both picked Big 10 schools.  Scuba   Sep-27-10 02:35 PM   #2 
  - hard to get them motivated  tomm2thumbs   Sep-27-10 02:51 PM   #4 
  - Obama should not have sat out his first two years...  kirby   Sep-27-10 03:06 PM   #5 
  - That third option will get them republicans, and if that happens, I wonder how they will feel? /nt  still_one   Sep-27-10 03:15 PM   #7 
     - A Dem  Coyote_Bandit   Sep-27-10 03:27 PM   #9 
     - Yup, it is all Obama's fault, why we have Democrats in Congress who align with republicans.  still_one   Sep-27-10 04:17 PM   #20 
        - As president, he is also head of the party. His lack of  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:13 PM   #43 
           - The right in his own party wasn't going to give him sqwat. LIEberman was a useless alliance made,  still_one   Sep-27-10 05:27 PM   #47 
     - I can tell you, from talking to my students, that most don't care.  Xithras   Sep-27-10 04:17 PM   #19 
     - I agree with your assessment, and they will soon learn /nt  still_one   Sep-27-10 04:32 PM   #26 
     - but, look on the bright side. it will flush out some  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:08 PM   #41 
        - You think so? I think if that happens repukes will dominate for decades. The country is NOT  still_one   Sep-27-10 05:20 PM   #44 
           - The young did care. And turned out. Then, got an admin  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:39 PM   #54 
              - good luck /nt  still_one   Sep-27-10 05:40 PM   #55 
                 - U2  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:54 PM   #61 
  - Totally clueless. He just doesn't get it.  Iowa   Sep-27-10 03:07 PM   #6 
  - Doesn't get what? That we never had a majority in Congress. Blue Dogs do not count as  still_one   Sep-27-10 03:25 PM   #8 
     - I for one would have been happy if filibusters actually filibustered  Duer 157099   Sep-27-10 03:40 PM   #11 
     - Oh please. He's done a crappy job as well. You can't blame  Luciferous   Sep-27-10 03:49 PM   #15 
     - Tell me how to get things progressive things done when Congress won't vote for it?  still_one   Sep-27-10 04:49 PM   #35 
     - Start with removing people from their chairmanships.  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:22 PM   #46 
        - and if reid won't do it, then what? Have angle win by not voting, that would not get the  still_one   Sep-27-10 05:30 PM   #50 
           - Personally, I do want to see Reid gone as long as it  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:49 PM   #58 
              - Reid is worthless and won't be missed.  t0dd   Sep-27-10 08:04 PM   #72 
     - +1  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:21 PM   #45 
        - bush already stacked the courts, so I wonder how much could have been done? /nt  still_one   Sep-27-10 05:39 PM   #53 
        - Did Bush appoint the US Attorney General's office? That  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:45 PM   #56 
           - Of course, but eventually it would have to be brought before a court or grand jury /nt  still_one   Sep-27-10 06:43 PM   #63 
        - +1 +1  Alcibiades   Sep-27-10 07:18 PM   #65 
     - I think the bigger complaint is that they never really tried.  Xithras   Sep-27-10 04:24 PM   #24 
     - Unless Congress is on board we can forget it, no matter who is President /nt  still_one   Sep-27-10 04:50 PM   #36 
     - I guess you don't get it either.....  grahamhgreen   Sep-27-10 04:26 PM   #25 
     - "You guys"? Am I personally responsible? What state do you live in? I guess if you live in a  still_one   Sep-27-10 04:55 PM   #37 
        - It's simply a matter of doing the will of the majority (Medicare for all, withdrawing  grahamhgreen   Sep-27-10 08:39 PM   #74 
     - Nonsense. If we had a progressive Congress Obama would fight us every step of the way...  Iowa   Sep-27-10 04:37 PM   #29 
     - Then don't vote for him, or vote for any Democrat in Congress who doesn't subscribe to your view, I  still_one   Sep-27-10 04:57 PM   #38 
        - unless your are someone like Lyndon Johnson who had a  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:29 PM   #49 
        - rahm will be gone, but that will not solve the problem. It was a different environment when Johnson  still_one   Sep-27-10 05:38 PM   #52 
           - Link to Axelrod leaving, but will help with O's campaign.  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:54 PM   #60 
              - Thanks, that is a surprise to me /nt  still_one   Sep-27-10 06:45 PM   #64 
        - You're missing the point...  Iowa   Sep-27-10 09:29 PM   #76 
     - Then why the %%$#^@ did members of the Admin fight  Jackpine Radical   Sep-27-10 04:44 PM   #33 
     - I am not defending the administration. Why didn't the people in Arkansas vote for Halter?  still_one   Sep-27-10 05:04 PM   #39 
     - It WAS the admins support for Lincoln - he needs to start supporting us - the ones that brung him.  grahamhgreen   Sep-27-10 08:49 PM   #75 
     - +1  davidwparker   Sep-27-10 05:30 PM   #51 
     - Considering he helped Lieberman and other DINOs get reelected, this is disingenuous at best  Smashcut   Sep-27-10 04:49 PM   #34 
        - Its politics. Dennis Kucinich is a person of principle and integrity, but could he get elected as  still_one   Sep-27-10 05:08 PM   #40 
           - Sorry, "it's politics" doesn't cut it as an answer  Smashcut   Sep-27-10 07:28 PM   #68 
              - Then don't vote for him. Incidently, after Lamont won the primary he DID campaign for Lamont  still_one   Sep-27-10 08:33 PM   #73 
  - Hey, remember me?  Alcibiades   Sep-27-10 03:39 PM   #10 
  - Ha! +1  Luciferous   Sep-27-10 03:43 PM   #12 
  - Plus plus.....  speppin   Sep-27-10 03:48 PM   #14 
  - Awesome-----  saigon68   Sep-27-10 03:52 PM   #16 
  - +1  Smashcut   Sep-27-10 04:19 PM   #22 
  - +1  grahamhgreen   Sep-27-10 04:32 PM   #27 
  - The forced health insurance purchase..  girl gone mad   Sep-27-10 04:33 PM   #28 
  - Hilarious! And true.  Iowa   Sep-27-10 04:40 PM   #30 
  - Well, thank you very much for your work.  jtuck004   Sep-27-10 04:41 PM   #31 
  - Actually, many folks will be ineligible by then  Alcibiades   Sep-27-10 07:29 PM   #69 
  - +1 n/t  area51   Sep-28-10 10:39 AM   #83 
  - Oh, by the way, it is that growing population of "elderly cranks" who want blue dogs and repukes  still_one   Sep-27-10 05:10 PM   #42 
  - Too true  Alcibiades   Sep-27-10 07:24 PM   #66 
  - +1  t0dd   Sep-27-10 07:56 PM   #71 
  - Gave them a vehicle.....  izquierdista   Sep-27-10 03:44 PM   #13 
  - How bout fixing health care, out of Iraqistan and prosecuting war crimes??? NT  grahamhgreen   Sep-27-10 03:59 PM   #17 
  - Sorry ...I can't vote for ya ...I've been disappeared by the FBI for being anti war.  L0oniX   Sep-27-10 04:08 PM   #18 
  - Do they accept absentee ballots  Jackpine Radical   Sep-27-10 05:51 PM   #59 
  - Everyone acts as if this is some new phenomenon. Young voters always..  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-27-10 04:19 PM   #21 
  - Young voters to Obama: "Watch us."  girl gone mad   Sep-27-10 04:21 PM   #23 
  - Exactly right.  Iowa   Sep-27-10 04:43 PM   #32 
  - Here's what the difference will be Mr. President:  Hosnon   Sep-27-10 05:28 PM   #48 
  - Don't tell them what they can or can't do or they'll NEVER come out of the bathroom.  sofa king   Sep-27-10 05:46 PM   #57 
  - Well, they'll pay a price if they stay home. n/t  bobburgster   Sep-27-10 05:58 PM   #62 
  - He should tell them to quit whining..  Fumesucker   Sep-27-10 07:24 PM   #67 
  - Young people to Obama: Quit whining.  avaistheone1   Sep-27-10 07:42 PM   #70 
  - Watch them  AnOhioan   Sep-27-10 09:31 PM   #77 
  - Back in 2008, a lot of young people (and old people FWIW) had hope.  Nihil   Sep-28-10 08:15 AM   #78 
  - I'm not, knocked on over 100 doors for Dems last week..nt  and-justice-for-all   Sep-28-10 08:59 AM   #79 
  - Young Voters to Obama: Yes we can! /nt  Bragi   Sep-28-10 09:10 AM   #80 
  - It started way before 2010 and it's not just young people.  MindPilot   Sep-28-10 09:52 AM   #81 
  - Try screwing us on net neutrality - that will motivate young people to vote democratic :/  bc3000   Sep-28-10 10:39 AM   #82 
 

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