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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:07 AM
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35. they want a democratic republic gone
in favor of an aristocracy which is already in place. This attack on the middle-class was their way of taking away the little bit of power we had to contribute to our candidates. It's quite obvious when they hate unions,ss,healthcare or unemployment. Tax cuts for the most elite and corporate america. It's also why they back the tea party types whose ignorance is alarming but easily manipulated. But I am just amazed at how bold they've gotten since Obama.

Thomas Jefferson Feared an Aristocracy of Corporations

Jefferson might not have wanted a lot of government, but he wanted enough government to assert the sovereignty of citizens over corporations. To his view, nothing was more important to the health of the republic.

In the early years of the 19th century, as banks and corporations began to flex their political muscles, he announced that: I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

There are those who would have us believe that the founders intended for corporations to control our elections and, tragically, five of these Tories sit on the U.S. Supreme Court, where they recently ruled that the nations biggest businesses may spend whatever they like to buy the results that best serve their bottom lines.

The Constitutionis a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary which they may twist and shape into any form they please. Thomas Jefferson Sept 1819

You seem to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarcy...The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal...knowing that to whatever hands confided, with corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots." ~Sept 28, 1820 letter to William Jarvis
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