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Mon Sep-06-10 06:34 PM
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| 113. This isn't even in the same ballpark as the 1930s anyway |
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It is way to small for the impact that is needed. But if they do another 4 or 5 of these it might buy some breathing room. At least it would give me breathing room, because if they don't make serious structural change in the next 4 or 5 years I am going to use that to save and get the hell out of here and to a more sane place.
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| -Obama to propose massive rebuilding program costing at least $50 billion |
IDemo |
Sep-06-10 07:19 AM |
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A start.....but our infrastructure needs are estimated to be in the trillions. |
marmar |
Sep-06-10 07:21 AM |
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And who of our brave politicians would approve of that? Dollars |
babylonsister |
Sep-06-10 07:24 AM |
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LA 30/10 |
enid602 |
Sep-06-10 10:19 AM |
#35 |
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we need more transit |
Francesca9 |
Sep-06-10 04:33 PM |
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What ever happened to Obama's "train" plans ... ?? Just high speed? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 07:29 PM |
#137 |
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there'd have to be legislation for it, but then again you know that. |
dionysus |
Sep-06-10 11:17 PM |
#155 |
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So? |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 04:30 AM |
#163 |
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everyone kicks in.... we all get jobs.... roads fixed.....OK I'M AGAINST IT |
happygoluckytoyou |
Sep-07-10 06:51 AM |
#179 |
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I hope it benefits individuals intead of mainly contractors. |
sasquuatch55 |
Sep-06-10 11:28 AM |
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Yeah, Rick Perry and his cronies would have a field day with that one. |
Rozlee |
Sep-06-10 11:43 AM |
#47 |
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Yeah, let's hope Halliburton doesn't gobble up the whole thing. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Sep-06-10 03:07 PM |
#78 |
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Bechtel will probably get a nice piece of the pie, too. In fairness, |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 04:48 AM |
#166 |
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Put in a requirement |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-06-10 04:47 PM |
#95 |
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Congressional approval is not necessarily a prerequisite. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-06-10 06:17 PM |
#109 |
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seconded. .nt |
Vehl |
Sep-06-10 12:14 PM |
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Yep. Agreed. I'd like to see 500 billion or more put toward green energy |
Lorien |
Sep-06-10 12:44 PM |
#59 |
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Iraq got 1 trillion, U.S. needs 1 trillion. |
harun |
Sep-06-10 03:11 PM |
#79 |
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That would be lovely . . . and imagine the costs of just cleaning up this environmental |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 07:32 PM |
#138 |
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But it got a headline...could that have been the goal ?? |
russspeakeasy |
Sep-06-10 02:25 PM |
#73 |
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The thing is |
Drale |
Sep-06-10 06:12 PM |
#106 |
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Properly written legislation could resolve that--and many other problems. |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 05:04 AM |
#167 |
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a mere drop in the bucket |
madrchsod |
Sep-06-10 07:28 AM |
#3 |
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How good will he look when SS/Medicare are raided to pay for this? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Sep-06-10 10:14 AM |
#34 |
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Or a mouse-hole in the wall. |
sofa king |
Sep-06-10 11:35 AM |
#46 |
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I believe a Republican CIC did establish such a pathway. Pls. see Reply ##s 166 and 167. |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 05:14 AM |
#168 |
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Its a start...we don't need sniping at this point |
opihimoimoi |
Sep-06-10 02:11 PM |
#71 |
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It's the DU circular firing squad, at work again. nt |
pnwmom |
Sep-06-10 05:47 PM |
#102 |
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Why blame Obama for the Senate? Even this amount will face |
pnwmom |
Sep-06-10 05:46 PM |
#101 |
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We are excited over 50 Billion? That is not a real significant Stimilus |
Go2Peace |
Sep-06-10 06:30 PM |
#111 |
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I like it |
Kingofalldems |
Sep-06-10 07:34 AM |
#4 |
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Don't worry, guys. It's dead in the water, anyway. |
IDemo |
Sep-06-10 07:35 AM |
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Closing tax breaks for the Oil and Gas corporations? |
fasttense |
Sep-06-10 08:27 AM |
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I heard on Friday...Senator Sanders said....... |
Stuart G |
Sep-06-10 08:49 AM |
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The source for the article has issued a "Mea Culpa" |
SomeGuynTexas |
Sep-06-10 09:12 AM |
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The sales taxes are collected from the consumer, so the oil |
shraby |
Sep-06-10 11:21 AM |
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Good point. Another overlooked source of tax. |
SomeGuynTexas |
Sep-06-10 11:25 AM |
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As between a former Exxon employee and Sanders speaking on Exxon's taxes, I trust Sanders. |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 06:52 AM |
#180 |
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You're blaming Republicans for something that happened last year? (Dem Congress since 2006, Prez |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 05:18 AM |
#169 |
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Exactly. Exxon didn't earn much profit at all while * was in office. |
Wednesdays |
Sep-07-10 07:09 AM |
#181 |
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Yes that will certainly happen ..just like the Bush tax cuts wont be extended |
INdemo |
Sep-06-10 08:58 AM |
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He doesn't get it. |
earthside |
Sep-06-10 08:28 AM |
#7 |
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+1000 |
jpak |
Sep-06-10 09:07 AM |
#13 |
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His bubble makers have won. |
Amonester |
Sep-06-10 09:30 AM |
#22 |
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Pres. Obama still is thinking like this is the 1930s. |
AlbertCat |
Sep-06-10 09:50 AM |
#29 |
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Correct. |
emilyg |
Sep-06-10 11:52 AM |
#49 |
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You are right on, earthside. Another band-aid that misses the |
mother earth |
Sep-06-10 12:22 PM |
#52 |
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+1 NT |
SocialistLez |
Sep-06-10 12:23 PM |
#53 |
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Patches and band-aids propping up a failed system because of rotten piers, rather |
RKP5637 |
Sep-06-10 03:13 PM |
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This isn't even in the same ballpark as the 1930s anyway |
Go2Peace |
Sep-06-10 06:34 PM |
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I don't even think this will goose the economy in the short term. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-06-10 07:54 PM |
#142 |
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K and R |
Stuart G |
Sep-06-10 08:45 AM |
#8 |
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A fart in a hurricane |
MannyGoldstein |
Sep-06-10 08:53 AM |
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What complete and utter fucking garbage. |
cliffordu |
Sep-06-10 02:49 PM |
#76 |
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She's right. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-06-10 07:48 PM |
#141 |
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Actually, I believe it's more than $12 Trillion |
MannyGoldstein |
Sep-06-10 10:14 PM |
#150 |
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Yes, in total. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-06-10 11:15 PM |
#153 |
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So now you even shit on GOOD ideas too? Time to re-examine yourself, Manny |
scheming daemons |
Sep-06-10 08:23 PM |
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Given the state of the economy, it HAS to be all or nothing |
NickB79 |
Sep-06-10 09:09 PM |
#147 |
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It's also politically absurd |
MannyGoldstein |
Sep-06-10 10:12 PM |
#149 |
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Son: Mom, I need $5000 for surgery to save my life. |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 05:50 AM |
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if i didn't know better i'd say manny has an agenda here.... |
dionysus |
Sep-06-10 11:19 PM |
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Manny sure as fuck has an agenda |
MannyGoldstein |
Sep-06-10 11:31 PM |
#157 |
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you're a true american hero manny. |
dionysus |
Sep-06-10 11:33 PM |
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Don't we have to attack before we can rebuild? |
begin_within |
Sep-06-10 08:55 AM |
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the american worker has definitely been attacked |
Chicago dyke |
Sep-06-10 09:17 AM |
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pay unemployed while teaching them new skills ! |
NikRik |
Sep-06-10 09:40 AM |
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Try for grants not loans... |
EC |
Sep-06-10 10:57 AM |
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That still won't do it. We need to restructure. Many with very high level skills over 50 can't get |
Go2Peace |
Sep-06-10 06:38 PM |
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This will also create office jobs to log payroll etc. and |
EC |
Sep-06-10 10:53 AM |
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Here's hoping at least most jobs will go to people {already} in America, not overseas or visa jobs. |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 05:43 AM |
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"Blue collar" jobs could stimulate other areas too |
PSPS |
Sep-06-10 11:04 AM |
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construction guys were my BEST customers |
Chicago dyke |
Sep-06-10 11:28 AM |
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Great Idea !!!! |
YankeeLeft7x |
Sep-06-10 09:12 AM |
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good. |
creon |
Sep-06-10 09:13 AM |
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Welcome to DU creon! |
antigone382 |
Sep-21-10 09:46 PM |
#184 |
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Wow I can't believe how naive the president is,these programs takes months to get started! |
democracy1st |
Sep-06-10 09:15 AM |
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"Oil and gas companies and multinational corporations" will veto this |
mike r |
Sep-06-10 09:27 AM |
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Civil engineers estimate $2.2 trillion needed |
mike r |
Sep-06-10 09:15 AM |
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Well that is 1/44th of what is needed... |
SHRED |
Sep-06-10 09:27 AM |
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Better than zero |
mike r |
Sep-06-10 09:36 AM |
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I hope that mandates a good proportion of U.S.-made steel and concrete |
Auggie |
Sep-06-10 09:38 AM |
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Lets hope there is a provision for "guest workers" because |
zogofzorkon |
Sep-06-10 09:42 AM |
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You are a Zero |
sallyseven |
Sep-06-10 04:50 PM |
#96 |
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And you haven't been following the destruction of American labor as policy |
zogofzorkon |
Sep-06-10 06:48 PM |
#117 |
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Put it on the ground, spread it all around, dig it with a hoe: it'll make the flowers grow |
Hekate |
Sep-06-10 05:24 PM |
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Yes we have skilled workers, they are being replaced by H1B visa workers or |
zogofzorkon |
Sep-06-10 05:48 PM |
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$50 Billion? |
Turbineguy |
Sep-06-10 09:44 AM |
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Not a small war. You could buy a nice $3 trillion war |
mike r |
Sep-06-10 09:56 AM |
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Maybe, but only for about a month and a half, apparently. |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 06:04 AM |
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30 billion a month squandered in Iraq and we get peanuts |
onethatcares |
Sep-06-10 09:44 AM |
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What we really need is to promote actually producing something - like clean, renewable energy |
LawnKorn |
Sep-06-10 09:55 AM |
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You mean producing something besides war, our national industry? |
Raksha |
Sep-06-10 03:36 PM |
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It's a start, infrastructure is suffering |
RoccoR5955 |
Sep-06-10 10:04 AM |
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Agreed. |
liberation |
Sep-06-10 01:04 PM |
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"Massive"? No the $3 TRILLION to Wall St. was massive |
SHRED |
Sep-06-10 10:11 AM |
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The Banksters get |
femrap |
Sep-06-10 11:03 AM |
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+1.nt |
Lorien |
Sep-06-10 12:46 PM |
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It's massive because it only benefits people and not banksters. n/t |
EFerrari |
Sep-06-10 01:06 PM |
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Was that the figure ...? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 07:38 PM |
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Awesome but I think it maybe to late. |
newfie11 |
Sep-06-10 10:56 AM |
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What a deal! |
sulphurdunn |
Sep-06-10 11:19 AM |
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Sounds good. |
Mickeyc1004 |
Sep-06-10 11:44 AM |
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It's something, better than nothing...n/t |
veganlush |
Sep-06-10 12:00 PM |
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And, let me guess, even though this is sorely needed, the Repubs will scream higher deficits and |
wisteria |
Sep-06-10 12:26 PM |
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Their grandchildren will watch |
Enthusiast |
Sep-07-10 04:25 AM |
#162 |
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50 billion is chump change. Over a trillion for the military. |
L0oniX |
Sep-06-10 12:26 PM |
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I was whining about this back in the '90s ... |
SomeGuyInEagan |
Sep-06-10 12:27 PM |
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I'm glad for the program, but it, like the stimulus, is very, very small |
tblue37 |
Sep-06-10 12:28 PM |
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A Good Proposal On Top Of The Stimulus That Was Passed In 2009 |
TomCADem |
Sep-06-10 12:28 PM |
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How much of that stimulus has been spent so far? |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 05:57 AM |
#173 |
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Infrastructure spending should not be labeled stimulus spending |
think |
Sep-06-10 12:52 PM |
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Excellent point.. (Please see Reply ##s 167 and 166 |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 06:00 AM |
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This is fabulous news -- and it looks like a September roll-out, doesn't it? |
Hekate |
Sep-06-10 01:05 PM |
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funny how good news is met with the usual contempt, isn't it? |
dionysus |
Sep-06-10 01:11 PM |
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No, it's disgusting |
Chulanowa |
Sep-06-10 01:43 PM |
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and your contribution to a positive future is? |
Chicago dyke |
Sep-06-10 03:21 PM |
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My County govt has several dozen ARRA jobs filled. Teachers aren't laid off. |
Hekate |
Sep-06-10 06:11 PM |
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Coming back to add: For figures, check out Recovery.gov |
Hekate |
Sep-06-10 07:35 PM |
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Chulanowa -- +1 |
Hekate |
Sep-06-10 06:12 PM |
#107 |
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+ a million n/t |
npk |
Sep-06-10 06:51 PM |
#118 |
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i was trying to be diplomatic |
dionysus |
Sep-06-10 11:16 PM |
#154 |
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How FDR of him! Excellent. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-06-10 01:15 PM |
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Obama gives great speech asking for $50 billion for infrastructure and jobs... |
rachael7 |
Sep-06-10 01:44 PM |
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I wish I could bookmark a reply and save your prediction for future reference. |
Raksha |
Sep-06-10 04:11 PM |
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+100 nt |
Mojorabbit |
Sep-07-10 12:55 AM |
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This is good. But he just had to get the word "bank" in there... |
Safetykitten |
Sep-06-10 02:06 PM |
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This is good. But he just had to get the word "bank" in there... |
Safetykitten |
Sep-06-10 02:06 PM |
#70 |
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Why not $50 trillion? |
Drunken Irishman |
Sep-06-10 02:22 PM |
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We only need to look at Japan to see what a good idea this is... |
AngryAmish |
Sep-06-10 02:28 PM |
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Excellent~ So President Obama |
Cha |
Sep-06-10 02:31 PM |
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Your comment is disgusting... |
Iowa |
Sep-06-10 03:30 PM |
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hamsher is a weasel..and yes, she's disgusting..professional |
Cha |
Sep-06-10 05:56 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-06-10 04:13 PM |
#91 |
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Republicans are going to block it - just as they are blocking everything else....They |
GreenTea |
Sep-06-10 02:58 PM |
#77 |
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Bold move ... but the (RW) press will try to bury for this and the other media will follow |
underpants |
Sep-06-10 03:13 PM |
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He cleans the charred grease off the Grill after his Bankers Steak BBQ Party - Throws it to peons. |
Grinchie |
Sep-06-10 03:17 PM |
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+1 |
Iowa |
Sep-06-10 03:31 PM |
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Cost of Iraq war -- $3 TRILLION - and still growing . . . !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 03:19 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-06-10 03:34 PM |
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Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Classic Keynes |
TrogL |
Sep-06-10 03:38 PM |
#88 |
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Well, I am all for it. |
Guilded Lilly |
Sep-06-10 04:13 PM |
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Me, too. Great post... |
YvonneCa |
Sep-06-10 04:33 PM |
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** Just to clarify on the $50B figure ** |
IDemo |
Sep-06-10 04:21 PM |
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Obama to propose massive rebuilding program costing at least $50 billion |
truthteller50 |
Sep-06-10 04:53 PM |
#97 |
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But the corporations should be trusted? |
Enthusiast |
Sep-07-10 04:32 AM |
#164 |
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the media blathering heads have been spreading the shite for over |
newspeak |
Sep-07-10 10:30 AM |
#183 |
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The repubs are going to have fun spinning this negatively. |
craigmatic |
Sep-06-10 05:10 PM |
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I can't wait to see what Faux news is gonna say about this... |
thedonkeyintheroom |
Sep-06-10 05:46 PM |
#100 |
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FOX News? Their work is done for them: all they have to do is read this thread. |
Hekate |
Sep-06-10 06:16 PM |
#108 |
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We know what they will say. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-07-10 04:43 AM |
#165 |
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Thank you Mr President for using our money for us. eom |
bluesmail |
Sep-06-10 06:29 PM |
#110 |
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It's a start and the infrastructure badly needs improvement. But |
Synicus Maximus |
Sep-06-10 06:30 PM |
#112 |
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A step in the right direction, but quite small and quite late. |
Sparkly |
Sep-06-10 06:38 PM |
#114 |
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This is good |
Ramulux |
Sep-06-10 06:47 PM |
#116 |
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Obama takes on GOP; Ask for $50 Billion Dollar infrastructure plan for jobs |
DimplesinMI |
Sep-06-10 07:01 PM |
#119 |
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60 dems + the house |
mdmc |
Sep-06-10 07:01 PM |
#120 |
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A lot of things should have been done then. From now until the election they had better go on the |
still_one |
Sep-06-10 07:01 PM |
#121 |
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Can't do that... |
WillParkinson |
Sep-06-10 07:01 PM |
#122 |
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+1 n/t |
jaysunb |
Sep-06-10 07:01 PM |
#123 |
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An election is coming up. |
RC |
Sep-06-10 07:01 PM |
#124 |
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What a dumbass, biased headline! A jobs bill is pro-workers, not baiting of Republican |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 06:36 AM |
#177 |
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Obama enters mid-terms campaign with $50bn infrastructure plan |
alp227 |
Sep-06-10 07:02 PM |
#125 |
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Silly people. |
jaxx |
Sep-06-10 07:02 PM |
#126 |
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How was the Stimulus NOT about jobs? |
Beartracks |
Sep-06-10 07:02 PM |
#130 |
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I said it was about jobs. |
jaxx |
Sep-06-10 07:03 PM |
#131 |
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No, I'm sorry -- I didn't mean you. :) |
Beartracks |
Sep-06-10 07:03 PM |
#133 |
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I wonder if this is enough? |
Francesca9 |
Sep-06-10 07:02 PM |
#127 |
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Now if only our media hammers the importance of infrastructure!! |
lyonn |
Sep-06-10 07:02 PM |
#128 |
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Bold move ... but the (RW) press will try to bury for this and the other media will follow |
underpants |
Sep-06-10 07:02 PM |
#129 |
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the economy |
creon |
Sep-06-10 07:03 PM |
#132 |
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Scarborough and Mika back tomorrow from vaca. Can't wait to |
monmouth |
Sep-06-10 07:03 PM |
#134 |
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Here we go. This is good. (nt) |
w4rma |
Sep-06-10 07:03 PM |
#135 |
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Figure I recent heard -- we need $3 TRILLION for infrastructure ... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 07:27 PM |
#136 |
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Rail, rail, rail, rail!!!! But jobs are jobs. nt |
valerief |
Sep-06-10 08:12 PM |
#143 |
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I have a wonderful idea for you, Mr. President |
jmowreader |
Sep-06-10 08:40 PM |
#145 |
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How nice. Less than 5% of what we've already spent on Iraq and Afghanistan |
dpbrown |
Sep-06-10 09:01 PM |
#146 |
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Should have been done last year. |
cleanhippie |
Sep-06-10 09:31 PM |
#148 |
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And $200B in Tax Cuts to help offset the building of new plants to bust unions at existing plants. |
w4rma |
Sep-06-10 10:36 PM |
#151 |
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It's not massive, but good. Is there a "buy American" provision, or do we sub it out to China? |
grahamhgreen |
Sep-06-10 10:38 PM |
#152 |
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Massive -- ???? Obama's giving $200 billion in tax breaks to elites who build |
defendandprotect |
Sep-07-10 02:18 AM |
#160 |
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It will help on the job front. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-07-10 04:15 AM |
#161 |
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The media will slam this - the media thinks GOP tax cuts will fix everything. n/t |
deacon |
Sep-07-10 05:50 AM |
#172 |
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not going to happen, no way, no how. And he knows it. |
crazyjoe |
Sep-07-10 06:07 AM |
#176 |
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I hope some conditions are in the bill re: offshoring jobs and visa jobs. |
No Elephants |
Sep-07-10 06:44 AM |
#178 |
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too little, too late! nt |
Lost4words |
Sep-07-10 07:54 AM |
#182 |
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